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why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?

Posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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Yeah, it really doesn't make sense. Only one of the lines running by one of the stadiums is a subway, and you have to change to get from one station to the other. Chicago is the home of the only one and true subway series, where one train runs through from one stadium to the other.


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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 29 23:47:12 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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When the Cubs make the playoffs again, then they can get the title back.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by andy on Sat Apr 29 23:51:25 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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The answer is obvious - almost too obvious. The teams represent New York, both Shea and Yankee Stadiums have subway stations right outside, and many fans travel to and from the games on the 7, 4, or B/D, depending on the location.

The real origin of the term goes back to 1921 when the Yankees and NY Giants played in the first all-New York World Series. The newspapermen of the day coined the alliterative term at that time - after all, even then people traveled around the city on the subway, whether it was to World Series games or for anything else.

Funny thing is that in 1921 the Yankees and Giants shared one ballpark (Polo Grounds) that had a 9th Ave. el stop right outside. The closest subway stop was a few blocks (uphill) walk at 157th and Broadway (today's #1 line). Yankee Stadium did not open till 1923, and the D train did not reach the Polo Grounds and Yankee Staidum till 1933.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:54:13 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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I thought that Subway Series sounds like competition of Line 4 vs Line 7.

Or: once the game ended with (Yankee 4 & Mets 7) results, or vice versa. The numbers of goals were corresponding to the subway lines.

Currently: both stadiums are served by IRT lines. However, line D also serves Yankee stadium.
Yet IF the stadiums wre served lets say (one by BMT another by IRT) Subway Series could SOUND LIKE IRT vs BMT games.

SO what is the reason of Subway Series name - still remain a mystery!

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 29 23:58:07 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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Aw, I thought you had the answer, because you phrased it thus. You put the word "are" in the wrong position in the question; it has to come after the word "why", and "Why" had to be capitalized.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 30 00:05:22 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:54:13 2006.

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Or: once the game ended with (Yankee 4 & Mets 7) results, or vice versa.

When the phrase was first coined the IRT services did not have numbers...in fact the term "Subway Series" did not even refer to the Mets vs Yankees. The phrase dates back to when the Yankees would play against the NY Giants or the Brooklyn Dodgers (today's SF Giants and LA Dodgers)... It stuck when the Mets became the NY National League team.

The reason is very simple - you can travel between the stadiums by subway.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 30 00:08:42 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:54:13 2006.

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Subway Series could SOUND LIKE IRT vs BMT games.

As for a REAL IRT vs BMT game:



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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by R32 B Train on Sun Apr 30 00:13:43 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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But is the subway a subway right outside of Wrigley Field and Comiskey Park?

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 00:33:52 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by R32 B Train on Sun Apr 30 00:13:43 2006.

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Yes, Addison and Sox-35th both drop the passengers off within 500 feet of the Stadium entrance. For Sox-35th since it lies in the median of the Dan Ryan folks heading to the game merely have to cross half of I-94 and they're there. From Addison to Wrigley folks have to cross half a block to Sheffield before reaching Wrigley. Both stadiums are extremely close to their respective stations.


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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by L Train on Sun Apr 30 00:38:03 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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All four lines that serve Yankee and Shea stadiums (B,D,4,7) are underground at some point in their routes. This is a subway series.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 30 01:13:56 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:54:13 2006.

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It harkens back to the days of the Brooklyn Dodgers and the NY (baseball) Giants too. Also the NYCT system as a whole is referred to as "The Subway" regardless of some lines like the 4 in the Bronx and the 7 in Queens being mostly on els.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 30 01:15:12 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by BMTLines on Sun Apr 30 00:08:42 2006.

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Classic

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:21:34 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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You know why? Because both teams and their stadiums are served by routes of the New York City SUBWAY (keyword: SUBWAY). Subway or not, they are part of the subway system. "Elevated Series"? Are you kidding me? Subway Series is as correct in every way, shape, and form as can be. Most people are not railfans.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 30 01:24:20 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:21:34 2006.

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When the then NY Giants played the Yankees in the WS after the IND was built between their ballparks it was a "Subway Series" in the truest sense of the word.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by tydev417 on Sun Apr 30 01:29:00 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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Subway Series - Wikipedia

Usage of the term "Subway Series" arose in 1941 when the Dodgers made their first World Series appearance since 1920. The subway had become an important form of public transport in the city and provided a convenient form of travel between Brooklyn's Ebbets Field and Yankee Stadium.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Goumba Tony on Sun Apr 30 01:31:12 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:54:13 2006.

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> The numbers of goals were corresponding to the subway lines.

"Goals"? I think you mean "Runs". :)

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Sun Apr 30 09:39:08 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 00:33:52 2006.

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That wasn't what he said, he asked if they were underground.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 10:04:29 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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In 1948, The Braves played in Boston, and if the Red Sox had won their playoff game against Cleveland, (which they didn't, which is, of course, another story!!) then Boston was to have its first "Subway Series". But it didn't come to pass. In fun, when I visited Atlanta a a few years ago for a 3 game series, I brought a "tongue in cheek" sign along with me which read "Red Sox vs Braves, Subway Series, 2002". It got a few curious glances. All in fun.

I believe they called the infamous 1986 Series, Red Sox vs. Mets the "I-95 World Series". Although everybody knows most people who drive from NY-Bos do not stay the whole time on I-95. Its simply a media name or catchphrase. I think when the Giants played the A's in 1987, they called it the "Bay Area World Series". (They actually could have called it the "Earthquake World Series".

Also when the Cardinals played the Royals in a World Series, they called it the "I-70 World Series".

So, as I see it, is a very good description of a the World Series when the Yankees play the Mets.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 10:22:52 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Sun Apr 30 09:39:08 2006.

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At Addison, the line is elevated.

It wasn't always the case with both ballparks being served by the same L train. Until today's Red Line was linked to the Dan Ryan portion of the former Lake-Dan Ryan route, you had to change trains downtown.

Back in the days when streetcars ruled the Windy City, the 22 Clark-Wentworth route went right by both ballparks. So in essence, the 1906 World Series could have been called the "Streetcar Series."

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by tydev417 on Sun Apr 30 10:59:30 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 10:22:52 2006.

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I have a question though, when the Howard Branch local stations were converted to express stations, where did the Red line run if it ran on the center tracks? When the Howard branch used to be a four tracked line with outer local patforms, what line stopped at the outer platforms and line ran express before the inner local platforms were built?

Addison

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 11:28:56 2006, in response to why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called "Subway Series"?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Apr 29 23:19:15 2006.

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To clear everything up:

"Subway series" first referred to a World Series where both teams came from the New York City area (there were a lot of these in the 30's, 40's and 50's). The phrase refers to the ability of the players to "take the subway" when they travelled to their "road" games, instead of a regular passanger train. Travelling by airplane didn't really begin until after WWII.

Today, it's a generic phrase used for any series of games between the Yankees and Mets.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 12:09:09 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 11:28:56 2006.

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Sounds good to me Chris!

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 12:19:41 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 12:09:09 2006.

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My father, being a Brooklyn Dodger fan, experienced many of them when he was young. Lots of heartache (1951 especially), a little extacy (1955).

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Posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 12:26:38 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 12:19:41 2006.

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I was only 2 years old in 1955, but I am glad the Dodgers finally came through! Its too bad they left Brooklyn and the Braves left Boston.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by dayveo on Sun Apr 30 14:44:49 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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i don't care if the stations are served by elevated trains. its still the New York City SUBWAY SYSTEM.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 15:01:16 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Sun Apr 30 09:39:08 2006.

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Why? Both stadiums in NYC don't have access to subway stations right outside their entrances so why should it be the same in Chicago?


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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 15:11:36 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by dayveo on Sun Apr 30 14:44:49 2006.

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Actually it's the New York City Transportation Agency, nowhere in the MTA's literature does it refer to the system officially as "The Subway System". A subway is just a tunnel with stations in it, and convention would seem to hold that so long as part of a given line is a subway then the whole line is taken to be a subway. This means that both the 7, 4, B, D and CTA Red Line trains qualify as subway lines, regardless of the common name for the system, be it 'subway' or 'el'. If you're really desperate to reinforce your ignorant NY-Centric ways then you could claim that you can walk from the Queens Blvd subway to Shea Stadium, but you'd have to leave yourself quite a while for that. And Chicago is still the only city where you can go between both stadiums on the same line through a subway and without a transfer.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Apr 30 16:07:06 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by R32 B Train on Sun Apr 30 00:13:43 2006.

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There is a big difference between a Subway and an El. Ride both and you'll see what I mean and it has nothing to do with elevation.

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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 30 18:00:27 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 15:01:16 2006.

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PROFF? Both stations have ramps leading RIGHT on stadium property.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:03:53 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by tydev417 on Sun Apr 30 10:59:30 2006.

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Originally, the Addison station had side platforms. In the mid-90s, it was reworked. The side platforms were eliminated and an island platform was erected between the center tracks.

Addison was at one time a B station when they still ran skip-stop service. During non-rush hours, both A and B trains operated on the outer tracks between Wilson and Belmont while during rush hours, A trains used the center tracks - probably to avoid Evanson Expresses, which have always used the outer tracks. Things used to be dicy north of Belmont for n/b trains. You had Ravenswood (Brown Line) trains branching off at grade from the outer track, then A and B trains switching from inner to outer tracks during non-rush hours, only to switch back to the inner track before Wilson.

With the new configuration at Addison, things are much, much simpler. Red Line trains now stay on the inner tracks all the way from the State Street subway portal to Howard, eliminating the need to share trackage with Purple Line (Evanston Express) trains and greatly reducing switching maneuvers at Belmont and Wilson.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:12:49 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 12:26:38 2006.

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The Braves left Boston mostly because of poor attendance. In 1952, the total season attendance at Braves Field was just over 281,000. That works out to less than 4,000 people per game.

The Dodgers OTOH were still drawing fairly well, although attendance was drifting downwards. It had a lot to do with Ebbets Field itself. The area around the ballpark was becoming unsafe, especially at night, plus there was little parking available, plus Ebbets Field itself was growing long in the tooth. A new ballpark was needed, but to make a long atory short, things didn't work out and the Dodgers headed west.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:14:16 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 12:19:41 2006.

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Sea Beach Fred still laments the fact that the Dodgers won it all the year after he left New York.

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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 30 18:18:09 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 10:04:29 2006.

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the true "I-95 Series" wold have been in 1983 when the Orioles played the Phillies. The 1989 Series was called "The Battle of the Bay" aka the Earthquake Series.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 30 18:20:57 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 15:11:36 2006.

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According to a friend of mine who worked for CTA, Chicagoans refer to their entire system as the "El" since until 1943 there were no subways at all in Chicago. In NY it is common to refer to the whole line as a "subway" even if the outer ends of the line are elevated since NY city has no free standing els any more to speak of with the possible exception of the Franklin Shuttle which is really not an el as such but is mostly in cut or on embankment. In Chicago, as I mentioned before, the opposite is how the lines are popularly referred to. The lines which are predominantly elevated but have underground portions are still referred to as "els." When I was in Philadelphia, I heard one of the locals refer to the Market - Frankford line as the "el" probably to distinguish it from the Broad St Line which is entirely underground except for Fern Rock terminal. If you divide it up percentage wise, most of the lines in NY are undergroung whereas in Chicago, only a small percentage of their lines are true "subways." Interestingly, I have a CTA annual report from 1958 which describes the then newly constructed Congress St Line as a "subway" even though it is in the median of an expressway. Apparently, the CTA used this term because the line is in a cut and although exposed to the air is beneath street level much like the sub surface lines of the London "Underground."

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 20:33:05 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:12:49 2006.

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Steve,
Sounds like you did your homework and you are right!
I'm not sure whether or not you know this, but the Braves asked the owner of the Red Sox, Tom Yawkey, if they could play in Fenway Park for a couple of years, while they basically rebuilt decrepit Braves Field. However, Mr. Yawkey refused. Then, in 1953, a man by the name of Henry Aaron came up, and in 1957, the Braves (Now in Milwaukee) won the World Championship. The talk in Boston was if the Braves could have lasted another season or two, they may still be there!

So I guess the situation was about the same as the Dodgers, albeit the Dodgers were drawing well.

Imagine, a Boston-Brooklyn rivalry to go with the Yankee-Red Sox Rivalry. Oh well............

PS: Sorry for this thread not being "transit-related". :-)

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 20:34:02 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:14:16 2006.

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Sea Beach Fred should have stayed! It's all his fault! :-)

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by dayveo on Sun Apr 30 20:52:06 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 15:11:36 2006.

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listen:
last time i checked every train still said MTA New York City Subway on them, so you can throw your dictionary definitions out the window. We call it the subway so it is the subway. Shall we use one term above ground and one below? Magma to Lava, Meteor to Meteorite? Don't be ridiculous. its the subway series because you can ride subway trains from one station to another.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 21:04:42 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by dayveo on Sun Apr 30 20:52:06 2006.

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its the subway series because you can ride subway trains from one station to another.

And you do the same thing in Chicago. Only difference is there it's the same train between both stadiums.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 1 02:04:04 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 20:33:05 2006.

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A Braves-Red Sox series would have been the "Green Line Series" I think the Green Line may have been the only one in Boston back then anyway. Fenway Park and Braves Field (today's Boston University football stadium) were within walking distance anyway.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:33:56 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 20:33:05 2006.

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The story also goes that the Braves weren't the same after Alvin Dark and Eddie Stanky went to the Giants. Eddie Mathews was a rookie in '52 and Aaron, who very nearly became a Giant himself, came up after the Braves had already moved to Milwaukee.

Apparently dwindling attendance in Milwaukee prompted their move to Atlanta.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:35:52 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 1 02:04:04 2006.

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IIRC the Commonwealth Ave. trolley line served Braves Field, if not Fenway Park as well.

IIRC the Red Sox played their home games during the 1916 World Series at Braves Field.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:40:50 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Boston Elevated on Sun Apr 30 20:34:02 2006.

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He says that had he stayed, he would have gone to work for the TA.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Mark Michalovic on Mon May 1 13:41:00 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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Yeah, it really doesn't make sense. Only one of the lines running by one of the stadiums is a subway, and you have to change to get from one station to the other. Chicago is the home of the only one and true subway series, where one train runs through from one stadium to the other.

I thought about this awhile too, and it dawned on me that when the Mets and the Yankees are in the World Series, you don't actually ever have to take the subway between Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium. You just have to take the subway from your home to whichever stadium is the host for a particular game. So I think the name "subway series" just means you could take the subway to all the games.



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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by 15 BEECHHURST on Mon May 1 13:44:46 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Mark Michalovic on Mon May 1 13:41:00 2006.

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Correct, but if there were games at the two stadia in one day as has happened twice, I believe, then the subway is a very viable option.

OK, how about this for an idea? if someone wanted to not take the 7 to the 4, could they take the 7 to Main Street, then the Q44 to the 5 and then to the 4?

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:46:01 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 12:19:41 2006.

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Did you know that had it not been for a Dodger fan's tape recorder, that call by Russ Hodges of Bobby Thompson's home run would not exist today?

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:49:34 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 10:22:52 2006.

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Check that. The 22 through route came into being later, plus neither Wrigley Field nor Comiskey Park existed in 1906. Still, you could get to wherever the Cubs and White Sox played by streetcar.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 1 14:16:39 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sat Apr 29 23:38:21 2006.

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The NYC "subway" system has been called that ever since most of the els were connected to the underground lines. There are no true "elevated" lines anymore. All of NYC's els run through the subway at some point.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 1 14:19:04 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by Mark Michalovic on Mon May 1 13:41:00 2006.

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Correct, and it was called that long before the Mets even existed. It goes back to the Giants days.

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Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?

Posted by mambomta on Mon May 1 14:27:31 2006, in response to Re: why Yankee vs Mets baseball games are called ''Subway Series''?, posted by WillD on Sun Apr 30 21:04:42 2006.

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And you do the same thing in Chicago. Only difference is there it's the same train between both stadiums.

Actually, in Chicago, you take the "El"

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