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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Dec 27 21:47:23 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Flatbush41 on Tue Dec 27 21:43:04 2005. If it's a kid pushing, I get out of their way and let them look.It's not that I've never been there before. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 27 21:51:42 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 27 20:28:33 2005. There are different levels of severity. Temple Grandin has autism and is renowned for her study of animals and design of cowpens (I've seen them). A friend of mine is autistic. He has trouble hanging on to jobs and would function best with a "job coach" but he does work (he was a competent computer operator) and finished college. He's married and lives with his wife in a rented house.In all seriousness, leaving out my rants about the Woman Shortage, it is surprising that your friend is married. I have heard that the behavoiral deficiences associated with autism and Asperger's makes it extremely difficult for people to form romantic relationships. IIRC, Temple Grandin is unmarried. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 27 21:55:47 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 27 21:51:42 2005. You are correct about Grandin.Yes there are difficulties with forming relationships, but that doesn't mean the autistic person doesn't want anyone at all. They benefit from human contact even though they may not show it as obviously. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Dec 27 22:11:54 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 27 21:55:47 2005. The human mind is amazing. I was watching a documentary of young people who get addicted to herion and how the drug actually changes the electrical connections in the brain.Or the use of extasy will cause people later on in life to get alzhiemers disease? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 27 22:17:40 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Dec 27 22:11:54 2005. Heroin addiction is probably one of the toughest to kick. I've dealt directly with heroin addicts and theuy just spiral down straight into hell. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 27 22:18:21 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Dec 27 22:11:54 2005. Or the use of extasy will cause people later on in life to get alzhiemers disease?Is this true or did you make this up? Have people even been using ecstasy long enough to make that statement? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 27 22:52:16 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by aem7ac on Tue Dec 27 18:40:41 2005. The LION is also Elvish. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Tue Dec 27 23:20:53 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 26 21:52:57 2005. Darius McCollum has Asperger's Syndrome and his urge to operate a New York City subway train has gone out of control a few too many times. I'm sure you could ask him anything about the R-32s for example and he would know everything or almost everything about them. SUBWAYMAN mentioned in a post some time ago that he has Asperger's Syndrome himself and I have either Asperger's Syndrome or high fucntioning autism as I distinctly have a number of the characteristics conisitent with an autistic spectrum disorder. I would not be surpirsed that there are others on this message board that have an autistic spectrum disroder.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Dec 28 05:12:14 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 26 21:52:57 2005. [I don't think it's autism per say but there is a medical condition called asper something syndrome that effects railbuffs like Darius Mccollum.'s Syndrome]Yes, Asperger's Disorder (or Syndrome) is a real condition. Find out more at www.aspergers.com and www.aspergerssyndrome.net. However, Darius McCollum has a much simpler problem known as malicious intent. He claims to be a "railfan" but then he goes out of his way to endanger peoples' lives by operating equipment (e.g. trains, switch machines) without proper training. Real railfans have too much respect for railroads and their employees and passengers to do that. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 07:54:24 2005, in response to "Asperger" (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Dec 28 05:12:14 2005. Darius MccCollum may believe he has the ability to operate trains safely (and he did, in fact, operate the trains almost without incident and without injury, though illegally). If that is the case, he does not meet the definition of malicious intent. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Dec 28 09:26:49 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 07:54:24 2005. Darius McCollum may certainly have the ability to operate a train safely and he has done so, but he is not authorized to operate a train. It could be likened to someone who knows who to fly an airplane but he doesn't have a pilot's license and certainly not the proper training and the person goes into the cockpit of a Boeing 747 jumbo jet and flies it for the thrill of flying a great big passenger jet airliner. The person might be able to fly it safely, but he could be endangering others since he might not be aware of what to do in case of an emergency. The same apllies for Darius McCollum operting a subway train. He might know all of the signals and the radio code, but if there is an emergency, he has no training about what to do in the event of an emergency. To conclude this, it is a serious hazard when an unauthorized person goes into a motorman's cab to operate a subway train or any other type of equipment where proper training and experience is required.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Dec 28 10:00:19 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 07:54:24 2005. Darius McCollum may certainly have the ability to operate a train safely and he has done so, but he is not authorized to operate a train. It could be likened to someone who knows who to fly an airplane but he doesn't have a pilot's license and certainly not the proper training and the person goes into the cockpit of a Boeing 747 jumbo jet and flies it for the thrill of flying a great big passenger jet airliner. The person might be able to fly it safely, but he could be endangering others since he might not be aware of what to do in case of an emergency. The same apllies for Darius McCollum operting a subway train. He might know all of the signals and the radio code, but if there is an emergency, he has no training about what to do in the event of an emergency. To conclude this, it is a serious hazard when an unauthorized person goes into a motorman's cab to operate a subway train or any other type of equipment where proper training and experience is required.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Dec 28 10:03:45 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 07:54:24 2005. Darius McCollum may certainly have the ability to operate a train safely and he has done so, but he is not authorized to operate a train. It could be likened to someone who knows who to fly an airplane but he doesn't have a pilot's license and certainly not the proper training and the person goes into the cockpit of a Boeing 747 jumbo jet and flies it for the thrill of flying a great big passenger jet airliner. The person might be able to fly it safely, but he could be endangering others since he might not be aware of what to do in case of an emergency. The same apllies for Darius McCollum operting a subway train. He might know all of the signals and the radio code, but if there is an emergency, he has no training about what to do in the event of an emergency. To conclude this, it is a serious hazard when an unauthorized person goes into a motorman's cab to operate a subway train or any other type of equipment where proper training and experience is required.#3 West End Jeff |
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Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 28 12:43:22 2005, in response to "Asperger" (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Dec 28 05:12:14 2005. I believe qualified psychologists have testified under oath that McCollum can't control his impulses. However, there's that jerk who stole an A train in 1993 and took it on a round trip revenue run. "Give him a job" the papers cried at the time. I believe he's now either dead or in jail. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Dec 28 12:58:38 2005, in response to "Asperger" (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Wed Dec 28 05:12:14 2005. Could be, lawyers can come up with some serious stretches of the imagination to fool juries. Its a case of planting that seed of doubt.Then maybe Darius does have aspergers. I once took one of those self tests and I can up with slight symptoms of aspergers with more antisocial leanings. But then again a self test on the web isn't a prognosis of a professional mental doctor. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 28 13:15:29 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 27 19:39:44 2005. You're only taking man-made pollution into account. Natural filth was everywhere. Disease too. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 18:19:39 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by aem7ac on Tue Dec 27 18:40:41 2005. I got... Rohirrim To which race of Middle Earth do you belong? brought to you by Quizilla |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 18:26:41 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 27 20:01:46 2005. IAWTP |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:02:51 2005, in response to Re: Are rail buffs generally autistic?, posted by Brooklyn IND on Tue Dec 27 19:00:38 2005. And if you did toot your own horn (which is not a bad thing per se) what can you say you've accomplished? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 19:03:58 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 27 18:01:58 2005. Dogs are domesticated companion animals.I disagree - but I have two cats, so who am I to comment... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:05:00 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 27 20:01:46 2005. Alex is a fun guy and his website is cool. When I'm next in Boston I'll have to buy him a sandwich and discuss a bit of the world with him. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 28 19:06:17 2005, in response to Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by aem7ac on Mon Dec 26 21:23:23 2005. My own personal research has shown that autistic traits are found in large numbers of Postal and DMV employees. ;-D |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:06:56 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 19:03:58 2005. My sister has 2 cats - and they hiss at everybody. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:11:12 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 28 19:06:17 2005. 8-) |
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Posted by Massachusetts Avenue el on Wed Dec 28 19:16:10 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 28 19:06:17 2005. ...autistic traits are found in large numbers of Postal and DMV employees.Why do you think they say "going Postal" and "Department of Mental Vacation"? Massachusetts Avenue el |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 19:23:41 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Booge on Tue Dec 27 19:33:13 2005. Some do not interface with others very well on this board. To steer clear of being flamed by them, one needs to avoid religion, politics and everthing else....................So basically steer clear of Subchat... rats... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 28 20:24:00 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Brooklyn IND on Tue Dec 27 18:34:25 2005. Every time I click your link, my browser crashes. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Dec 28 20:29:27 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 27 18:01:58 2005. My dog is always indoors with me except when I walk him or let him out. I do have a crate in the corner of my dining room thats his space. If I have guests or people come over to do work I lock him in the crate. The majority of the time he goes in by himself when he's tired or in the middle of the night if he doesn't want to sleep upstairs in the bedrooms. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Dec 28 20:31:41 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 28 12:43:22 2005. Last I heard of him he stabbed someone in Brooklyn.Waste indeed. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Dec 28 20:33:54 2005, in response to Re: Alex's website, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:05:00 2005. Make it Philly, best sandwiches in the US! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 28 20:35:27 2005, in response to Re: Alex's website, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 19:05:00 2005. I'm glad you now support immature and inappropriate behavior on this forum. Should make it easier for the rest of us that (supposedly) do the same. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed Dec 28 22:26:49 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 28 12:43:22 2005. I recall the young jerk who piloted an "A" train in 1993 since it was on the local TV news. At the same time, I believe that you're right that Darius McCollum cannot control his impulses as you mentioned.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by Booge on Thu Dec 29 02:22:39 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Dec 28 19:23:41 2005. Or speak your mind and not give a shite about what anyone thinks! |
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Posted by JPC on Thu Dec 29 17:12:34 2005, in response to Re: ''Asperger'' (Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?), posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 28 07:54:24 2005. So can we bring him in if there's another strike? :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Dec 29 18:27:29 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 26 22:49:45 2005. You can see how Chris is right, and Ron is just being a pompous @$$.Chris is usually acting cynical, while Ron can be pompous at times, he is basically a decent, intelligent person. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:37:29 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by #3 West End Jeff on Tue Dec 27 23:20:53 2005. A friend of mine fixates on Mister Softee Ice Cream trucks (the old, classic ones from the 60's and 70's). Would that put him in among those with the affliction of Asperger's syndrome? |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Dec 29 18:40:11 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:37:29 2005. How about SHELL gas trucks?FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 29 18:45:00 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:37:29 2005. Most definitely. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:47:47 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Dec 29 18:40:11 2005. OH...MY....GOD.....NOOOOOOOOO! |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:48:14 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 29 18:45:00 2005. Do you know from experience....my good man? |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Dec 29 18:59:23 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:47:47 2005. Sorry I ment HESS trucks.FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 19:07:04 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Dec 29 18:59:23 2005. That's fairly understandable....I doubt there's anything autistic about collecting HESS trucks. |
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Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Dec 29 23:05:07 2005, in response to Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by tramrunner on Mon Dec 26 23:32:39 2005. Maybe this explains why I am fascinated by wheel noise - first of trolleys (PCC in Wash.DC) and then subways./w\ |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 30 08:13:39 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Dec 29 23:05:07 2005. Perhaps wheel noise is music to your ears.:) |
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Posted by aem7ac on Fri Dec 30 08:20:51 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 30 08:13:39 2005. Perhaps wheel noise is music to your ears.:)I prefer propulsion noise. Wheel and brake noises are too piercing. But I also liked pneumatic door noise as a child, and would imitate it at school. AEM7AC |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 30 12:50:29 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by aem7ac on Fri Dec 30 08:20:51 2005. I also prefer propulsion sounds, most notably the moans, groans and grunts associated with the R-1/9s. Not to mention their door and brake sounds. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Dec 31 16:05:37 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 30 08:13:39 2005. The louder the screech, the more I enjoy it, even if it comes from the wheels of an R142.wayne |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Sat Dec 31 21:34:38 2005, in response to Re: Are railbuffs generally autistic?, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Dec 29 18:37:29 2005. Not necessarily unless your friend has the other symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome. Being fixated on 1960s or 1970s Mr. Softee ice cream trucks for example does not necessarily qualify for being affected by Asperger's Syndrome. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Sat Dec 31 21:39:06 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 30 12:50:29 2005. I enjoy the "mooing" cow noise produced by the spur gears of the R-1/9s and of course the IRT Low-Vs. I also like the high pitched whistle of the pre WWII subway cars. Those sounds gives one a nostalgic feel of reliving the experience of what the subway was like.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Dec 31 23:03:01 2005, in response to Re: Yes, some of railfans are affected by Asperger's Syndrome., posted by aem7ac on Fri Dec 30 08:20:51 2005. So you must have been an Almond Joy fan. |
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