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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Jun 25 19:40:14 2026 Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 1888 – from The Book of First Runs The first section of the Broadway elevated line that we know today as the Broadway-Brooklyn Line is placed in service. It extends westward from Gates Avenue, where it connects to the Lexington Avenue Line, along Broadway to Driggs Avenue. 1933 – from The Book of First Runs The Pennsylvania and Reading Railroads consolidate their operations between Philadelphia and the Jersey Shore. A new company known as the Pennsylvania – Reading Seashore Lines will now operate the trains and maintain the lines. 1946 – from The Book of Wrecks A massive nine alarm fire destroys the ferry and railroad terminal in Saint George. The fire broke was reported at 1:58 PM. The ferry boat MISS NEW YORK departed at 2:00 PM with about 500 passengers. Shortly after that the entire turned burst into flames. New York City fireboats, US Navy and Coast Guard tugs combined to battle the blaze. Additional fire companies arrived from Brooklyn on the 69th Street Ferry (Its slips were removed from the main terminal) and Manhattan by way of the Holland Tunnel and the Bayonne Bridge. Six hundred sailors from the Naval Base in Tomkinsville were also called in to help battle the blaze. There was no saving the terminal but it took 67 hours to extinguish the flames. Three people died and 289, mostly firemen were injured. Among the dead were Mrs. Cornelius White, the railroad ticket agent and fireman Harold F. Clandening. Ferry service to Whitehall Street resumed on June 28 using the slips of the 39th Street-Brooklyn ferry which was permanently discontinued. SIRTRy trains from Tottenville and South Beach terminated at Tompkinsville station. Trains from the North Shore ended at Pier 6. The fire destroyed eight of the ME-1 electric rail cars; 307, 313, 316, 322, 333, 351, 377 and 390. Car 363 was damaged but returned to service as a work car. Source: 1) "Staten Island Rapid Transit"(Silver Leaf Publications /1965) by Mr. Paul Matus 2) Passenger Car Roster of the SIRTRyCo. by Mr. Larry Kiss (1966) 3) “Staten Island Ferry (Arcadia Publishing/2014) 4) “Over & Back” (Fordham University Press /1990) by Mr. Brian J. Cudahy 1991 – from The Book of Last Runs “AK” Drawbridge over the Arthur Kill is taken out of service effectively ending freight service on Staten Island. Ed. Note: The “AK” Drawbridge was returned to service in 2006. 1993 – from The Book of Last Runs The last train of R-30’s and R-30A’s ran in service today on the “C” Concourse-8th Avenue-Fulton Street Local. The consist was R-30A 8408-8397 R-30 8322-8305 R-30 8298-8295 R-30A 8396-8393 The R-30's and the R-30A's along with the R-27's formed a homogenous group of 550 subway cars that came to dominate the southern Section of the BMT Division in the 1960's. The first units arrived in late 1960 and permitted the retirement of almost all of the un-rebuilt Standards along with the Multis, SIRT cars and the Lo-V's (on the BMT Division). The cars were arranged in "married pairs”. The even numbered car had the motor generator while the odd numbered car had the air compressor. For better or worse the roll-signs introduced BMT riders to subway routes which would now be identified by "letters." The original paint scheme was olive green on the outside with blue and gray interiors. They also featured coral pink fiberglass seats. After the opening of the Chrystie Street Subway in November 1967 they would see operation on much of the IND Division as well. As a group they suffered mightily from the lack of deferred maintenance and the general deterioration in the 1970's and early 1980's. In the mid - eighties 162 R-30's and R-30A's received a limited GOH (General Overhaul) which enabled them to soldier on for another eight years. Credit where it’s due Department: The consist of the last train comes from the New York Division Bulletin of September 1993. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Jun 25 19:40:14 2026. I love the R-27/30's.So true about their suffering because their lives overlapped the years of deferred maintenance. Another issue is that they were assigned to yards that were more vulnerable to vandalism. Like Fresh Pond Yard and East New York. City Hall BMT Broadway. These were hotspots for graffiti. Yes, vandals would find their way into Coney Island, and 207 but those yards were busy by comparison and vandals study these things before striking, and chose less busy yards. I've seen pictures and in-person vandalism on R27-30's, that was "top to bottom" or "full car" on trains assigned to the yards I mentioned as top targets. But honestly, you don't see nearly as many R-32 or R-46 cars that were nearly as vandalized and I think it's due to their yard assignments during the peak years of graffiti. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Q65A on Fri Jun 26 10:03:55 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026. I always associate the R27/30 with the RR and QJ. When I was a kid riding QBL, the RR and GG served Continental Avenue. While the GG had R9s, the RR had 27/30s that looked way more modern (fluorescent lighting, enclosed ceiling fans, plastic seats). Now all of them are museum pieces, myself included :-) |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 26 11:23:35 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026. Yep. A set of R27/30s on the Myrtle Ave line. Its amazing how a crew of "artists" can smuggle in all that spray paint, take all that time to do the deed without being detected. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 26 12:20:57 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026. The R27/30's were among my favorite cars to operate. Never had one with poor brakes. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jun 26 13:33:33 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026. I remember them being the "new" trains when I was a kid living along the Brighton line as the QB or QT depending on day and time. They also were on the RR, and displaced the last remaining standards off those lines. You would also see them on the N. When the R32s started coming in they looked totally new with the stainless steel and made the R30s look old, but actually were otherwise pretty similar. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 26 19:24:20 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 26 11:23:35 2026. Moe would have been furious. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 26 19:26:26 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by zac on Fri Jun 26 13:33:33 2026. I remember their original olive drab paint. They started to appear on the Norton more and more post-Chrystie St. Makes sense because a lot of R-32s were sent over to the IND. They held down the fort on the AA/B and D lines. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 22:23:38 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 26 11:23:35 2026. That's Jamaica Ave. But not near Manor Deli where Joe V, Fisk Ave Jim, Fred G, GP38, KP74, ChrisR-16, Railman, and RPanse go to eat at Manor Deli.Its amazing how a crew of "artists" can smuggle in all that spray paint, take all that time to do the deed without being detected. It's very easy. Fresh Pond Yard and ENY were very vulnerable. Canarsie too but not as much. I'll explain why in the next post. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 22:43:08 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jun 26 11:23:35 2026. Its amazing how a crew of "artists" can smuggle in all that spray paint, take all that time to do the deed without being detected.It's amazing but easy to see what happened. East New York Yard. At night, they would stand on the Manhattan-bound platform at Broadway Junction near the front end of the train. As soon as one left the station they knew another would be about 12 minutes away. Then they would hop down and run the yard lead and be in the yard in less than 2 minutes. No one saw this because at night, the switchmen are playing cards or going home early. Fresh Pond Yard. This was the easiest for vandals. By 9:30 pm most M trains are laid-up. It's not a maintenance yard so there is little movement once trains are laid-up for the night. Vandals could easily observe this from the station or scoping things out as passengers on a passing train. They would stand on the platform at Fresh Pond near the rear of a Manhattan-bound train. Once a train passed they knew the next one was more than 10 minutes away, so they climbed down the steps and ran the catwalk into the yard. Those trains just sat their from 9 pm until put-ins the next morning. Sometimes kids would cut or bend the fence at Farmers Oval/Joseph Mafera park which is next to the active mainline tracks between Fresh Pond and Metropolitan and just run into the yard. This happened one year when I was playing softball at the park. The ump called time out because a few kids were running from Fresh Pond Yard and struggling to squeeze under the fence. This was on a Saturday afternoon. I don't know why they were there in the daytime but they were brazen. I sometimes wonder how many kids those guys fathered? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by gbs on Sat Jun 27 01:24:41 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Jun 25 19:40:14 2026. The last train of R-30’s and R-30A’s ran in service They ran almost everywhere:                     width=999       
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 27 01:50:40 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by gbs on Sat Jun 27 01:24:41 2026. Thanks for the roll of photos.In the 10th photo, that J is signed up for Queens Blvd. I don't think the J was still going to Queens Blvd when the R-30's was overhauled and painted. I'm guessing it was going to 121 in this photo and they're just working off the old Queens Blvd. Were end signs ever made for 121? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 27 03:23:19 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 26 12:20:57 2026. Maybe th GE R-27s and 30s were good to operated but the WH controllers on those cars especially the R-30s were brutal to hold down. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 27 08:18:19 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by gbs on Sat Jun 27 01:24:41 2026. I rode on an R-27/30 D up CPW once that was signed as a DD.Like the R-32s, they ran on just about every IND and BMT route you can think of. |
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Posted by zac on Sat Jun 27 09:02:30 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 26 19:26:26 2026. Imagine it is 1967. The BMT southern division trains are all R27/R30 and R32. All cars less than 10 years old on every line. Then the promised improvements from Chrystie St happens, and suddenly there are R1s/R4s/R6s running on your line. Old trains from another era. Dim lights, paddle fans, smelly, outside conductors, etc... Nobody thought this was an improvement. I know in the morning rush the trains going towards the Bronx on the D were mostly R32, while the trains going the other way were arnines. But by midday it was a mix and the evening rush was also a mix until they resorted out in the evening. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 27 09:38:35 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by zac on Sat Jun 27 09:02:30 2026. I remember that changeover. On Saturday mornings, there would be AA trains of R-32s. The IND old timers also found their way onto the Bob. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 27 11:01:12 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 22:43:08 2026. Interesting. Thanks for the response!BTW you're right, Jamaica Ave it is. My bad. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 27 11:12:05 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 03:26:53 2026. The 32s had that whack surface that was ribbed, so no one wanted to bomb them, except throwups. The 27/30s were a good car class, but Iliked the 16s better, and the 10s were my favorite BMT/IND car. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 27 12:59:26 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 27 11:01:12 2026. BTW you're right, Jamaica Ave itAt first glance, I thought it was the M line too. Why? There is a famous photo of an M train/R-27/30 at Fresh Pond Road, covered top-to-bottom with graffiti. I thought this was that photo. I think that photo was from the movie Beat Street. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by zac on Sat Jun 27 13:33:35 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 27 09:38:35 2026. The B had the worst of them. Just look at the pics on NYCSubway.org from 1967 and 1968. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 27 14:08:02 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by zac on Sat Jun 27 09:02:30 2026. I agree. Too bad they did not double the order of R-32’s. Or increased the R-38 order. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 28 06:34:28 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by zac on Sat Jun 27 13:33:35 2026. The late Wayne aka Mr. Slant R-40 once rode on an all-R-1 Bob train that howled ass along 4th Ave. but was falling apart at the seams. |
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Manor Deli? Re: Tusc Alm for Jun 25 |
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Posted by b/p rupture on Mon Jun 29 03:37:04 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 22:23:38 2026. Where is Manor Deli? Where abouts it the photo? |
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Re: Manor Deli? Re: Tusc Alm for Jun 25 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 29 03:50:14 2026, in response to Manor Deli? Re: Tusc Alm for Jun 25, posted by b/p rupture on Mon Jun 29 03:37:04 2026. Hello b/p rupture.I said that Manor Deli is not near. Anyway, I think you should go to Manor Deli and crush a 1 lb. container of rice pudding. Their salads are good too. Let us know if you do so. And then swing by Forest Park to do some chinups. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 29 12:15:07 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for June 25, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jun 26 22:23:38 2026. I thought Manor Deli was renamed after the pigs overthrew Jones. |
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