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Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 09:52:10 2026 Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch 1907 from The Book of First Runs The first segment of the Market Street subway-elevated line opens. It runs between 69th Street in Upper Darby and 15th Street in Center City, Philadelphia. 1955 from The Book of Last Runs This is the last day for streetcar service in Omaha, Nebraska. Tuscarora Dispatch No 2 JAMAICA LINE SKIP-STOP SERVICE 1959 to 1980 Skip - Stop service on the BMT Jamaica Avenue Line began in June of 1959. The basic setup was that Manhattan - bound trains leaving from 168 Street - Jamaica Avenue on weekdays from about 7 AM to 8:30 AM would make limited stops from there to Eastern Parkway. Stations along the route would be identified by "A" or "B" signs . No.14 Broadway - Brooklyn Local trains would stop at the "B" stations while No.15 Jamaica Express trains stop at the "A" stations. Four stations; 168 Street, Sutphin Boulevard, Elderts Lane and Eastern Parkway were served by both routes and displayed both "A" and "B" signs. No.14 Locals would stop at 168 St, 160 St, Sutphin Blvd, Queens Blvd, Metropolitan Av, 102 Street, Elderts Ln, Cypress Hills, Norwood Av, Van Siclen Av, Alabama Av and Eastern Parkway. They would then make all local stops to Canal Street. No.15 Expresses would stop at 168 St, Sutphin Blvd, 121 St, 111 St, Woodhaven Blvd, Forest Pkwy, Elderts Ln, Crescent St, Cleveland St, and Eastern Parkway. They would then run express along Broadway stopping at Myrtle Avenue and Essex Street and making all stops to Broad Street. Skip-stop service was offered Manhattan-bound in the AM rush only. This service pattern continued until November 26, 1967 when the Chrystie Street - Manhattan Bridge Line opened. "QJ" trains would replace the No.15 Express and "JJ" trains would replace the No.14 Locals. The service pattern was otherwise unchanged with "QJ" trains stopping at the "A" stations and "JJ" trains stopping at the "B" stations. There was still no PM skip-stop service. The Chrystie Street - Williamsburg Bridge Line opened on July 1, 1968 and a new service, the "KK" replaced the "JJ". It would operate between 57 Street - 6 Avenue and 168 Street - Jamaica in both directions during the rush hours. About this time the "A" and "B" signs at the stations were replaced by "QJ" and "KK" signs with all - stop stations carrying both signs. Skip-stop service would now operate Manhattan-bound in the AM rush and Queens-bound in the PM rush. "KK" trains in skip-stop service would make all "KK" or "B" stops between 168 Street and Eastern Parkway and then make all local stops between that point and 57 Street and 6 Avenue. The QJ would make A or QJ stops. PM rush skip-stop service was discontinued on July 14, 1969. Thereafter both QJ and KK trains would make all stops to Jamiaca. Service changes were announced for September 10, 1972 but where postponed until the weekend of December 31, 1972 - January 1, 1973. The "QJ" would be replaced by a new service called the "J' which would run between 168 Street and Broad Street at all times. The "KK" would be replaced by the "K" which would operate between 57 Street - 6 Avenue and Eastern Parkway during rush hours. Hereafter all service on the Jamaica Avenue Line would be provided by "J" trains. Skip-stop service would continue with alternate "J" trains serving "A" or "B" stops .(See original list) Skip-stop service in the PM rush was discontinued and the time of the AM operation were shortened to about 50 minutes. It is unclear how passengers were supposed to differentiate between the "A" or "B" trains. The roll signs were never changed and the subway maps issued from 1972 (2) through 1978 while they mentioned the service did not list which trains made which stops. The 6 Avenue "K" was discontinued on August 27, 1976 and skip-stop service was extended westward to Myrtle Avenue. Chauncey St and Gates Avenue would become "A" stops while Halsey St and Kosciusko St would become "B" stops. The Diamond Jubilee Edition of the New York City Subway Map was a marked improvement over its predecessors. Issued in June of 1979 it was the first map since 1969 to list the "A" and "B" stations on both the front and reverse. All "J" Line skip-stop service was discontinued on December 1, 1980. Skip-stop service would return to the Jamaica and Broadway-Brooklyn Lines in December 1988 with the opening of the Archer Avenue Line Note to Map Collectors: In addition to the 1979 Map the Fall 1980 map listed the "A" and "B" stations as well, but which one? It seems that two maps were issued with the copyright @1979 New York City Transit Authority, Revised Fall 1980. The first map has a side fold and strip maps for the 6 Avenue Line services under the title. The second map has a vertical fold and strips maps for the Lexington Avenue Line under the title. Only the first map shows the "A" and "B" stations on the "J" Line. The second map was issued right after the skip-stop service was discontinued. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 4 14:21:22 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 09:52:10 2026. Quite a history there.There also was a period where some "JJ" trains went to Canarsie from Broadway-Brooklyn. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 17:25:00 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 4 14:21:22 2026. There also was a period where some "JJ" trains went to Canarsie from Broadway-Brooklyn. The #14 Bway-Bklyn Local was unaffected by the service changes in November 1967 except that trains would now be designated as JJ. There was still rush hour service between Canal Street and Canarsie. Effective with the July 1, 1968 service changes the rush hour JJ was replaced by the KK which ran between 168 St and 57/6. There were still about three AM put-ins from Canarsie to Canal St. I did ride this service. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 4 18:08:35 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 09:52:10 2026. I remember the pre Z skip stop service near it's end. It was AM only and it really didnt matter what train stopped where because most riders were headed to Manhattan. Sutphin Blvd and Elderts Lane (for some reason) were the only "all stop" stations east of Broadway Junction. I remember riding the service a few times as a child and recalled trains just flying through the skipped stops with just a brief horn blast.I believe the rebuilding of the Fulton St stations ended the service. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 4 19:59:47 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 17:25:00 2026. Some 14 trains only went as far as Atlantic Ave. during PM rush hours. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 4 20:51:43 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 4 17:25:00 2026. I always wondered why they don't have any trains running from Broad Street to Rockaway Pkway in Canarsie nowadays? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 5 03:22:42 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 4 18:08:35 2026. Te reason Elderts Lane was made an all stop was due to its proximity to Franklin K Lane High School. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 5 18:32:16 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 5 03:22:42 2026. Karl B's alma mater. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 5 18:33:11 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 4 20:51:43 2026. Makes you wonder how many passengers rode on such trains back in the day. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 5 19:21:52 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for March 4 and a Tuscarora Dispatch, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 5 18:33:11 2026. Nowadays the hipsters would use it. |
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