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Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 23 12:39:45 2025 Gothamist |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 23 13:27:13 2025, in response to Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 23 12:39:45 2025. My wife and I have a friend who has definite mobility issues and minor cognitive issues (not serious, but she gets a bit confused sometimes), and yes she definitely had trouble setting up her OMNY card and needed some help. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Dec 25 20:09:58 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 23 13:27:13 2025. Remember when the metrocard was introduced? I think that caused even more riders to be upset. It's just part of change. Some won't handle it well. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 25 21:21:33 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Easy on Thu Dec 25 20:09:58 2025. OMNY for seniors is much more complicated than Metrocard was. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 07:12:53 2025, in response to Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 23 12:39:45 2025. “They seem to change the goalposts, at least in my experience,” Evans said. “One week, it seems to be Wednesday through Thursday, the next week it's Sunday through Saturday. I've called like three or four times and I cannot get a comprehendible answer from anybody because I don't think the people that work there, even know.”I was wondering about this. If I'm tapping all the time but then it just so happens that I reach a 13th ride in any 7-day period (but I was tapping before the 7-day period started) will the capping mechanism kick in or do I have to wait for something to reset? Example: I tap once on a Monday, I then tap 12 times from Tuesday to the next Monday - do those second Monday taps count as a fresh slate instead of being part of the cap I wanted to start on Tuesday? |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 10:21:21 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 07:12:53 2025. I don't know the answer but I would think that every 7-day period starts on the day of the first tap after the previous seven day period. If so, that first Monday counts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 10:28:02 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Easy on Thu Dec 25 20:09:58 2025. I think that token->MetroCard was more complicated than MetroCard->OMNY. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 10:28:12 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 25 21:21:33 2025. How so? |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 10:36:57 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 10:28:12 2025. I'd have to go through my records to recall the 6 separate steps, give or take, we needed to get Senior OMNY to work.Senior Metrocard was just a trip to Stone Street. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 11:16:09 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 07:12:53 2025. It starts the first time you use OMNY and then that period is fixed until it ends.So if the first time you ever use it is a Thursday, it ends on Wednesday and that's that. Then it starts again the next time you use it after that Wednesday. So as an example, if you start using it on 1/1, and don't hit 13 rides on or before 1/7, a new period will start on 1/8, unless you don't use it that day, then it will start the first time you use it again. If you get 13 rides total between 1/5 and 1/10, since that's broken into two periods, no cap for you. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 11:53:14 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 07:12:53 2025. My question is what does an occasional subway rider (like me once or twice a year when in town visiting) do ? In the soon to be old days, I'd buy a single ride metro-card and be on my way. NO can do no more after Jan 1 I understand. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 12:06:21 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 11:16:09 2025. Thanks.That policy is really pathetic though. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 11:53:14 2025. Buy an OMNY and pay the fee for the card.Keep the card for next year. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 12:36:10 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. Is there an expiration date & how much is the fee?? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:43:18 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 12:06:21 2025. Doing it any other way would make it too complicated to administer. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:44:25 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 11:53:14 2025. Use your credit or debit card. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:45:37 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 12:36:10 2025. A single ride has no fee but costs $3.25. I don't know what it will be when the fare goes up to $3 on 1/1.The fee for a regular OMNY is $1, same as the MetroCard. I've never used one. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 15:16:31 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:45:37 2025. Ok. Thanks. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 18:25:01 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 11:16:09 2025. That's what I said.Regarding your other post, there is another way to do it but it's much worse. They could pick a day, Monday for example, to start every 7 day period for everyone. Seniors would be less confused that way but it's definitely worse. |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:04:15 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:45:37 2025. The website says $3.50 on Jan. 4 for a single ride but will that ticket still exist if MetroCard isn't being sold? I get the sense that this fare was published with an eye toward fare hikes in 2025, not in 2026 after MetroCard "retired." |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:43:18 2025. I don't understand that. I presume that on the 12th tap in 7 days it knows about the previous 11 so it only charges $2 instead of $3 (as of January). Why can't it just always "know" about everything you've done in the last 7 days (whichever days those may be) and just charge accordingly? |
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Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:01:28 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:02:00 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:03:39 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:04:23 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:04:58 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:05:50 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. Because it wouldn't know what your fare should be or was.In your initial example you wanted it to be smart enough to know not to count that first Monday and instead start the clock when your riding became more frequent. In that case it wouldn't know what to charge you for Monday until potentially 7 days later. |
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Posted by B1bus on Fri Dec 26 21:10:23 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 14:45:37 2025. There IS a single ride OMNY ticket. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 22:02:12 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:04:15 2025. There is an OMNY single ride ticket. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 22:04:31 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 18:25:01 2025. That’s how it was originally! They changed it when they raised the fare to $2.90. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 22:06:55 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Dec 26 19:08:54 2025. But that’s not how it keeps track. If you go to the website it tells you how many times you used it since the start of the 7 day period, not “last seven days.” Besides, for people who consistently hit the cap, why would it matter? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 22:28:26 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by B1bus on Fri Dec 26 21:10:23 2025. Thats good to know. Not everybody rides the subway day in & day out. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 26 22:52:32 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 12:36:10 2025. The card I got over the summer expires in 2031. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 27 06:52:41 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 26 20:01:28 2025. It knows right away what to charge for Monday because I'm not hitting a cap that day. Full fare. All it has to do is check each time I tap whether I've hit a cap over the last 7 days. It's sad that they're making it more complicated than that.They're already logging ride history. So it's just one question about the log - has this device paid $35 in the last 7 days? Ok, then no charge. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 27 07:14:18 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 26 22:06:55 2025. I don't see why it must keep track that way. What's wrong with "last 7 days?" It's hard to believe that in 2025 the software can keep track one way but not the other. It's an added task to work out or find out when your period started.I'm an irregular rider. I have spurts of 3 or 4 rides per day, 1 ride another day, a couple of days of no rides, etc. I rarely hit the cap but I always still thought "no rider will pay more than $35 in a week" as the fare change information page reads. That's really a lie it turns out. London just charges you at the end of every day, but I think that's more because there are zones and distance-fares involved. New York should be even simpler than that. Each tap should just charge you the lesser of ($3) or ($35 minus what you paid in the last 7 days). I'm not a programmer but it doesn't sound like a huge leap. |
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Posted by Allen45 on Sat Dec 27 07:55:26 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. Or you can use your debit or credit card. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 27 10:37:42 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Allen45 on Sat Dec 27 07:55:26 2025. Good to know all the options |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:39:19 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 26 22:28:26 2025. If someone rode the subway daily, they’d be less likely to know about single ride tickets. Think about it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:43:45 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 27 06:52:41 2025. They’re making it less complicated than what you’re asking for. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:46:05 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 27 07:14:18 2025. It seems rational to you, but the simpleton quoted at the end of the article I linked would furrow their brow in a vain attempt at understanding the situation. Read that part again and see how it would happen. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:47:50 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Allen45 on Sat Dec 27 07:55:26 2025. There really is no reason at all for a visitor to buy an OMNY card unless they want to pay cash. |
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Posted by Joe on Sat Dec 27 11:50:31 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:47:50 2025. right |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Dec 27 11:51:52 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 27 11:39:19 2025. Nothing to think about. Why would they? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. I could tap my credit card at the turnstile, right? Been a while since i rode the subways. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. I could tap my credit card at the turnstile, right? Been a while since i rode the subways. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. I could tap my credit card at the turnstile, right? Been a while since i rode the subways. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 26 12:17:48 2025. I could tap my credit card at the turnstile, right? Been a while since i rode the subways. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 27 16:16:15 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025. Yes, even if you never have before. As long as that card would be good for a random $3 payment at a grocery store it should work. The card needs to be contactless but most are now. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 27 17:19:46 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025. I never think about that because it wouldn't get me my senior discount. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 27 17:42:18 2025, in response to Re: Some NYC seniors troubled by switch to OMNY as MTA kills the MetroCard, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Dec 27 16:03:45 2025. I thought you were a cop? Decades ago, when I was sworn in, we were.rold we would never have to pay for the bus or Sunway again, just show the tin. Even after retirement (Not the TA policy, but the "police" policy. That being said, I haven't paid my fare since yhe 80s. |
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