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Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 02:14:43 2025

One of the benefits cited by NYCT is that the AM, Manhattan-bound trains arriving at Roosevelt Island won't be as crowded (sometimes they were at full capacity).

Now that the M serves Roosevelt Island, arriving AM Manhattan-bound trains won't be a full. That makes 100% sense to anyone. I guess the only argument against this is that the M is only an 8-car train so it's possible that arriving trains might not be so empty?

I'm guessing the demand for the F express was so much greater, it's still a benefit to Roosevelt Island passengers.

As for station signage, I think NYCT should have kept F letters/circles/bullets at the 63rd tunnel stations, but made the F smaller to communicate it's not the primary service, only night and weekends.



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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 18 07:07:46 2025, in response to Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 02:14:43 2025.

I think I remember both orange B and orange Q as depicted on maps in the 90s even though it was Q all day and B weekends (and F late nights). I don't know what the entrance signage at the actual stations said though.

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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 13:19:14 2025, in response to Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 18 07:07:46 2025.

In this video, they quickly show Queensbridge station and the M is visible on the entrance sign.

They really should have an F displayed too. Maybe make it smaller which communicates it isn't the primary line serving that station.

I'm guessing there is signage downstairs, along the platform, that explains the service.

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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by jasonnyc on Fri Dec 19 11:18:29 2025, in response to Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 02:14:43 2025.

If I recall correctly, the V was planned as a local so that the G, now terminating at Court Square, could have access to local QBL service. Now G riders have a transfer to E/F to QP for the R. Increased E/F service should take care of that, and I'm guessing the demand wasn't as high.

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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 19 12:22:14 2025, in response to Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 02:14:43 2025.

I can just imagine Moe and Fred going at it.

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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 19 13:04:37 2025, in response to Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by jasonnyc on Fri Dec 19 11:18:29 2025.

Continental cannot handle 3 services at one time, be it M/R/V then or G/M/R.

Unless I misunderstood you.

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Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 19 13:07:14 2025, in response to Re: Fox 5 NYC story about F/M swap, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 19 13:04:37 2025.

Oops. Meant to say G/R/V and G/M/R. Sorry

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