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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 08:47:03 2025 link |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 09:13:07 2025, in response to Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 08:47:03 2025. Like many municipalities, NYC has found a simple solution for high crime rates. Simply downgrade reported crimes. Make felonies a misdemeanor and turn misdemeanors into civil violations. Suddenly you have crime statistics showing crime going down. For example, a homeless man throws a person onto the tracks. Instead of assault or attempted murder upu charge him with littering or delaying.public transit. Problem solved. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 13:42:12 2025, in response to Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 08:47:03 2025. More fake news, out of a fake governor. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Sep 11 14:54:33 2025, in response to Re: “Gov.” Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 13:42:12 2025. How is she fake? Duly elected by the people of New York. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 11 14:57:53 2025, in response to Re: “Gov.” Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 13:42:12 2025. She might be correct.It is hard to victimize a victim that does not exist. If people avoid something, it is not a statistic, and you don't get murdered. Put it this way, where do people think White Flight comes from? Move out of the high crime area, go into a walled community, then you cannot be robbed in that precint anymore. It takes a certain IQ to see where political stat's fail. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Sep 11 15:24:42 2025, in response to Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 08:47:03 2025. I'm sure certain people are not happy with this news. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 11 17:29:58 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Sep 11 15:24:42 2025. What news? |
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Posted by Handbrake on Thu Sep 11 19:23:36 2025, in response to Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 08:47:03 2025. Kathy does have pretty blue eyes.... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 11 19:46:37 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Handbrake on Thu Sep 11 19:23:36 2025. That's for the Off-Topic board. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Sep 11 21:07:44 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 09:13:07 2025. While this smacks of schedule padding tofake on time performance goals, do you have any actual records showingthese maneuvers? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 23:59:09 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Sep 11 21:07:44 2025. Certainly, just as you have proof of schedule padding. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 12 00:36:18 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 23:59:09 2025. I rely on commentary on this board from avowed employees of MTA. As to other scheduled rail services, I can state that Amtrak on most non NEC routes is much slower end to end than either the host RR when they operated trains or Amtrak 3 decades and more ago. You are presumably aware that the host RRs have final say on scheduling and can earn bonuses for OTP. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 12 03:26:39 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 23:59:09 2025. I wouldn’t call it “schedule padding.” Increasing the running time to more realistic values is merely allowing the proper amount of running time instead of publishing artificially fast running times and advertising how quickly you can get from one point to another. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 12 05:46:16 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 12 03:26:39 2025. What do you mean by "more realistic values"? Why is it "realistic" to slow down average speed from past average speeds?When I first moved to Elizabeth NJ in the early 1980s, the average speed of NJT trains on the NEC was 47 mph. Now it's 10 mph slower. Nothing "realistic" about that other than the fact that service has degraded under government control. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 12 05:47:45 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 12 00:36:18 2025. Host roads? Nope; that has to do with government regulations. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 12 05:48:27 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Handbrake on Thu Sep 11 19:23:36 2025. She's all yours, heh. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 07:35:38 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 12 03:26:39 2025. "Schedule padding" was not my terminology. I just repeated it in my response to the prior poster. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 07:36:43 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Handbrake on Thu Sep 11 19:23:36 2025. And the overbite of a hamster |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 12 07:37:05 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 12 03:26:39 2025. I wouldn’t call it “schedule padding.” Increasing the running time to more realistic values is merely allowing the proper amount of running time instead of publishing artificially fast running times and advertising how quickly you can get from one point to another.There are numerous instances of schedule padding for the NYC subways. As to running time being more "realistic", check the end-to-end on time performance enjoyed by our grandfathers. These figures were placed in the annual reports. The figures for the 3 operating divisions for 1948 were: IRT - 86.30%; BMT - 98.77%; IND - 99.24%. The end-to-end running times were shorter and headways shorter. Many of the more realistic values are the result of switching conflicts built into the schedules. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Sep 12 09:53:04 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 11 09:13:07 2025. Spot on, Train Dude.Call a shooting a assault. Call an assault a minor infraction. We know the truth. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 09:55:41 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Sep 12 09:53:04 2025. Thank you |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 12 14:40:16 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 12 00:36:18 2025. Every mode of transportation engages in schedule padding, from the airlines, Greyhounds to local and long distance trains. When I was at Metro North, schedule padding was SOP when printing up the public timetables. A little example, from GCT to 125, the older schedules called for it to take 10 minutes. Today, with better signaling and track conditions, the timetable now calls for 11 minutes. If they get to 125 early they still have to wait for timetable departure time, so what's the point? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 15:54:17 2025, in response to Re: Gov Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Sep 12 14:40:16 2025. It was always axiomatic that scheduled were for the company so theybwould know wherevtheir crews and equipment are. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Sep 13 03:41:17 2025, in response to Re: “Gov.” Hochul announces NYC subway crime reaches record lows, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 12 05:46:16 2025. The so called “average” speeds were not the actual speeds that trains were going, but the speeds upper management wanted the public to believe they were. Years ago I did a speed check on the 2 and 3 between Nevins St and Franklin Ave. most of the trains took between 7 and 7 1/2 min between those points. One train happened to make it in 6 min due to what was actually improper operation by the train crew. The director of schedules at the time saw the one train that made it by operating recklessly and despite the fact that the higher speed was the correct one, insisted on making the published schedule speed the lower number. |
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