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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 09:43:47 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Great photos!! Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Aug 17 10:05:01 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Thanks for sharing these. I forget that in the War years, there was still WPA to finance thse projects as everything else went to the war effort. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Sun Aug 17 10:14:24 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. I went to Brookly Poly Tech that was at that station in an old razorblade factory. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 17 11:14:02 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Excellent photos!As I have said before, if this line were rebuilt today, as I'd do it the line would be on mostly two levels of single track with stations from the old line considerably consolidated before going underground after Navy Street to join the Montague Street Line either at the current Jay-Metrotech (formerly Lawrence St.) stop on the (R) or at Court Street on the (R) as in either case an extended (W) train that would operate to Astoria at all times except late nights where it and the (R) both would likely run to Whitehall Street, |
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Posted by W.B. on Sun Aug 17 13:25:36 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Yep. Just shows that what is taken for granted in the "it'll always be there" sense could be wiped out in a New York minute, no trace whatsoever that it'd ever existed.Oh, and "American" in the '71 photo - that later became Amoco, and has since been swallowed up by BP (what used to be called British Petroleum). I remember for decades on West 37th Street near where one of the Lincoln Tunnel underpasses was, an ad for BP on the wall of one of the buildings (since demolished). I can't remember the exact slogan, but it looked like "It's got gas!" The copyright on that was 1970. It lasted right up to the '80's. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 17 15:33:47 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by W.B. on Sun Aug 17 13:25:36 2025. I remember when Amoco stations had, "Standard" signs, representing the Standard Oil Division of the American Oil Company. I also remember Esso (and for that matter, "Enco") stations prior to being rebranded as Exxon. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 17 15:34:34 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by W.B. on Sun Aug 17 13:25:36 2025. I remember when Amoco stations had, "Standard" signs, representing the Standard Oil Division of the American Oil Company. I also remember Esso (and for that matter, "Enco") stations prior to being rebranded as Exxon.And Cities Service before it was renamed, Citgo. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 16:12:37 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 17 15:34:34 2025. Standard was the CA brand, now Chevron, the Illinois and indiana brand later Amoco, in Ohio it was Sohion. Esso in the east, Enco in CA was S.o of NJ, Mobil was S,o, of NY All of which indicates that the tr trust busters' successes of a century ago have been erased. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 17 17:11:42 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 16:12:37 2025. I remember Sohio in Ohio. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 17 17:12:02 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 17 15:33:47 2025. Exxon (actually now ExxonMobil) I believe is still Esso in Canada and other countries. |
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Posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 17:19:03 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. This is what is left of the old el at the other end:![]() |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 17:44:11 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 17:19:03 2025. That's a cool photo.I remember when you posted it after one of your bike rides about two or three years ago. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Sun Aug 17 18:12:52 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 16:12:37 2025. The trust busters' successes were not erased. All those companies remained separate, except that Exxon (Standard of NJ) has since merged with Mobil (Standard Oil of NY). |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 17 20:20:38 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Great photos but with all the photos being taken didn’t ANYBODY think to take a photo of the interlocking machine that was installed inside the tower? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:35:51 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 17 17:12:02 2025. Yes it is! It is Exxon only in the USA and Esso everywhere else. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:46:02 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 16:12:37 2025. Chevron still maintains at least one Standard station in each state part of its territory.1501 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94109 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:46:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 17:19:03 2025. Has there been a conclusion as to why that bit is still up? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:26:13 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:46:55 2025. Someone said for structure support.It supports the existing structure. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 22:17:31 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:26:13 2025. I heard that too. That leftover iron was kept in place to the maintain the stability of the existing Myrtle Ave/Broadway El station. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 22:22:35 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 22:17:31 2025. When I was young, I was amazed at how much sway there was standing on the platform at Knickerbocker or Wyckoff.It scared some people. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 22:31:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Italianstallion on Sun Aug 17 18:12:52 2025. They were so separate that a Chevron credit card was good at Enco/Exxon in many states, Standard in Chicago, Sohio,--never tried at a Mobil in CA. I was told by a contract systems programmer that Chevron's mainframes talked to Exxon's mainframes so when either had an inventory problem the other could "help out". Further, in MD where a Shell Station was alone in a county w/ several Chevron stations, Chevron's distribution are supplied gasoline regularly. |
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Posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 22:45:35 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 17:44:11 2025. Thank you! I checked the date on that photo, Aug 13, 2019, so it's been a while already. I was confused though by it. I took this photo on Aug 8, 2019 in Shanghai of the Maglev and that was my last day of work before retirement. I came home, cleaned out my desk at my office, and the next week I guess I was on my bike shooting pics of the el remnants all over the city and feeling free as can be!![]() And the Maglev was FAST! 269.2mph. That's Coney Island to 205th St in about 7 minutes! ![]() |
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Posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 22:50:29 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 22:22:35 2025. Those were the rebuilt stations too. The old original segments look so rickety I would be scared to ride a train on them. And unfortunately I never did even though I'm old enough to have done it. The Third Ave el too in The Bronx. I did at least ride the Culver remnant. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 17 23:31:18 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:46:02 2025. In Chevron speak in CA Standard Stations are company owned and operated while Chevron Stations are leased to operators whose names sometimes appear on the station. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Aug 17 23:34:02 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Is that IND entrance there today? Yes, but it was slightly relocated when MetroTech was built, and is now a double-width stairway facing east, instead of the original single stairway facing north. It's just out of range to the right in your last photo. By the way, not everything is gone. The building in the rear on the left is the old razor blade factory, there in your 1945 photo, and has been part of Poly Tech/NYU for years. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 01:14:23 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 17 20:35:51 2025. Which is interesting since I seem to recall that Standard Oil claimed the reason they were changing ESSO to EXXON was to eliminate confusion in countries outside the US where ESSO might not mean the same thing as it does in the US. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 01:17:42 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 22:17:31 2025. I can’t understand why a structure above another is needed to support a structure beneath it. I can see the need to keep the lower level at Gun Hill Rd since it supports the Wh Pl Rd Line but not the other way around. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 02:53:41 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 01:17:42 2025. I think it supports the M structure from the point in zac's photo to Wyckoff. That actually would make sense as its the original line. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 02:54:42 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by zac on Sun Aug 17 22:50:29 2025. Lucky you, you got to ride Culver. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 06:32:06 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 17 20:20:38 2025. Great photos but with all the photos being taken didn’t ANYBODY think to take a photo of the interlocking machine that was installed inside the tower?Thank you randyo. Perhaps photos of the interlocking machine were taken. If so, they weren't in this bunch. Years ago they did document everything with photos. Bill M. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 18 09:11:22 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 22:22:35 2025. When I lived in Woodhaven, I'd sometimes take the J train into Manhattan. The most rickety swaying El section was the stretch between Alabama Ave and Crescent St. When those heavy R27/30s would come too a hard stop at one of those stations, the sway was scary noticeable. I often wondered how the structure stayed up. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:26:01 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 18 02:54:42 2025. Lucky me, I rode it many times when two car A types roamed the rails. I didn't care much about the R-27/30's. The AB's were sort of the vestige of the BMT Culver line to Coney Island. (Photo date: Aug 18, 1962) ![]() |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:26:53 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 17 09:43:47 2025. Great photos!! Thanks for sharing!Thank you Fisk Ave Jim. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:28:36 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Aug 17 10:05:01 2025. Thanks for sharing these. I forget that in the War years, there was still WPA to finance those projects as everything else went to the war effort.You're welcome. Yes, 1943 was during war time. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:29:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Mr RT on Sun Aug 17 10:14:24 2025. I went to Brookly Poly Tech that was at that station in an old razorblade factory.Yes, that building is the only last vestige of the old Myrtle Ave. as far as I know. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:33:29 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by W.B. on Sun Aug 17 13:25:36 2025. Oh, and "American" in the '71 photo - that later became Amoco, and has since been swallowed up by BP (what used to be called British Petroleum).Yes and you can barely see it in the 1969 photo above. I wonder how long that gas station was at that location before the Metrotech development ? Bill M. |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Aug 18 13:10:33 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 01:14:23 2025. Exactly. I remember a group out of the West Indies called the Esso Steel Band. Funny, I don't recall them ever changing their name, come 1973, to the Exxon Steel Band . . . |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Aug 18 13:26:13 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 09:33:29 2025. It was still there into the early 90's. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Aug 18 13:31:53 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 17 20:20:38 2025. Hi Randy - I think I saw photos of the interlocking in a few photos that are in the MTA historical collection. As more historic photos get scanned (either from their own collection or when photos come into their collection), I'm sure more will turn up online. I've been checking into the site every so often for more historic photos of the Myrtle el. Some pretty cool stuff appears. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Aug 18 14:11:59 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Thank you for sharing this and all your other photo essays!These are terrific! --Mark |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 15:22:35 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 17 21:26:13 2025. That doesn’t make much sense. The structure extends a whole block. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 15:34:26 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 01:14:23 2025. The reason they changed it is because they were only allowed to use Esso in the northeast, and outside the US. In the rest of the country they were Enco, and in Ohio they were Humble. There was less of an issue with having another brand name abroad.They were also the last one to call themselves “Standard Oil Company of [state],” specifically New Jersey. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Aug 18 17:31:11 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Thanks for posting these! I am more familiar with the April 1971 era Myrtle/Jay, having started at Pratt in August of 1979 and took the B54 bus to catch the A or F into the city. Missed the el by a little less than 10 years. By '79 the trolley tracks were gone, but otherwise it looked the same as the photo. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 18 18:45:28 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 18 09:11:22 2025. Out of habit.:) |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 19:47:34 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 18 15:34:26 2025. In Ohio they were SOHIO. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 20:03:49 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 06:32:06 2025. I was wondering about that. One of my pet peeves about railfan photography is that while there are plenty of photos of the OUTSIDES of cars and stations there are almost no photos of the interiors of the cars and fewer photos of the M/M’s cabs and interlocking machines in signal towers. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 20:05:16 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 18 06:32:06 2025. I was wondering about that. One of my pet peeves about railfan photography is that while there are plenty of photos of the OUTSIDES of cars and stations there are almost no photos of the interiors of the cars and fewer photos of the M/M’s cabs and interlocking machines in signal towers. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 20:06:31 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Aug 18 13:31:53 2025. OK, thanks. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 18 20:27:53 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] The Myrtle Ave. Bridge St. Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 17 09:31:27 2025. Since you came up with these photos, are there any similar photos of the realignment of the tracks at the east (RR south) end of Rockaway Ave on the Fulton St el when it was made the terminal in 1940? |
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