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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 10:16:32 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Wow!Never saw a photo of the North Channel Bridge in the open position! Beautiful photo documentation. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 28 10:52:25 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Fabulous photos |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Jun 28 11:29:12 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Thanks Unca Bill!! |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. I thought due to the sub stations not being completed by opening day, there was a GO in effect for short trains and one one motor per axle pre-war R units only on the line. These photos clearly show R-16s with full trains and dual motors per axle. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 12:40:28 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025. They wanted to showcase the newest equipment for the opening. I'm willing to bet those R-16s were yanked after a few days. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 12:40:43 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Mahvelous, simply mahvelous. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 13:57:14 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 10:16:32 2025. Thanks Fish.Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 13:57:37 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 28 10:52:25 2025. Thank you Bill.Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 13:58:05 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by South Ferry on Sat Jun 28 11:29:12 2025. You're welcome.Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 14:00:04 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025. I thought due to the sub stations not being completed by opening day, there was a GO in effect for short trains and one one motor per axle pre-war R units only on the line. These photos clearly show R-16s with full trains and dual motors per axle.Perhaps the R1/9's draw more current than the R-16's ? Maybe randyo knows for re. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 14:00:25 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 12:40:43 2025. Thank you Steve.Bill M. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jun 28 14:17:00 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025. very nice coverage. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jun 28 14:25:00 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. And that was Aqueduct just before it was rebuilt into a facility that could race in colder weather that opened three years later in 1959. Much of what was the grandstand in that facility is now the casino, the clubhouse was modified again in 1975 to winterize it including the Equestris restaurant that has been there ever since. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 28 14:30:13 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 14:00:04 2025. "Perhaps the R1/9's draw more current than the R-16's ?"I doubt it since AFAIK the R1-9s were lighter Also, The R16s only worked there on opening day. They were gone by the end of the next day. |
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Posted by zac on Sat Jun 28 16:15:01 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Very nice set of shots. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 28 18:33:32 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Great roll of photos.And yes, the fire trestle was intentional. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 18:45:42 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 28 18:33:32 2025. Great roll of photos.And yes, the fire trestle was intentional. Thanks LuchAAA Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 18:46:17 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by zac on Sat Jun 28 16:15:01 2025. Very nice set of shots.Thank you Zac Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 18:47:42 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 28 14:30:13 2025. Also, The R16s only worked there on opening day. They were gone by the end of the next day.Correct, the June 30th photos have no R-16's in them. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 18:48:13 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jun 28 14:17:00 2025. very nice coverage.Thank you. Bill M. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:49:45 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 10:16:32 2025. Thank you the most! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:52:16 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 12:40:28 2025. HaahahahaA photo op and nothing more |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:53:18 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jun 28 14:25:00 2025. Thanks for the info |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:54:03 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 28 18:33:32 2025. By the mob? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 19:00:04 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 13:57:14 2025. A real treat! Thank you!I know I was asked if I knew the last time the North Channel subway bridge was opened was and as far I know I had to be in the 70s. The Cross Bay Blvd North Channel bascule bridge was as far as I remember reading in The Wave rendered in operable in 1979. Without that opening the swing bridge would have no purpose in opening. A good question would be when was the control room removed? I guess late 80s or early 90s? |
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Posted by W.B. on Sat Jun 28 19:06:36 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. From what I've been gauging, the type of third rail used on the Rockaway branch in its early decades under TA operation was the same 150 lb. as used on the LIRR - portions of which, ironically, were the basis for the designs of the BMT-IND 150 lb. NMC third rail and the 150 lb. IRT rail as used on Dual Contracts sections of that entity. |
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Posted by W.B. on Sat Jun 28 19:10:48 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025. That GO was the result of a strike by Westinghouse electricians which led to a scramble for what power they had at the onset. It would be several months, from my understanding, before "normalcy" arrived at that stretch. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 28 19:25:01 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 12:06:58 2025. I'm only guessing that particular train was the only train on the line with the motorman instructed to operate in series. Multiple prohibited, just like the R17 at Branford. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 28 19:31:54 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:54:03 2025. Yes. LIRR wanted out of the route. Mob took care of it. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:51:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by W.B. on Sat Jun 28 19:10:48 2025. Correct, but with little power, how did they run R-16s that had 2 motors per axle? I thought they were banned because the substations were not completed. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:52:30 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 28 19:25:01 2025. That makes more sense. Must have a slow ride up the bridges. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:52:54 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Excellent photos and thanks for sharing. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 20:23:23 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jun 28 19:25:01 2025. I heard that when 6688 had just arrived at Shoreline, they took it out onto the mainline and put in multiple. It took off like a bullet! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 20:25:11 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:51:55 2025. Everybody out and push!:) |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jun 28 20:42:27 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:51:55 2025. They were banned ehen it was discovered that sand was getting into the motors & damaging them,hello R9`s! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jun 28 20:43:57 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 28 19:31:54 2025. PROOF? |
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Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Jun 28 22:17:52 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. (Far Rockaway terminal) 'What was that small building to the right, a store?'If it wasn't back in 1958 it definitely is now - the 'Last Stop Deli.' Bill, can't thank you enough for all these images! They'll be in my mind as I operate to/from Mott Av. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 29 10:56:55 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jun 28 18:53:18 2025. You're welcome:Basically, the newer Aqueduct replaced the old Jamaica racetrack not too far away that closed in 1960. Ironically, the current Aqueduct is scheduled to close next year (the casino will remain) as the land has become too valuable. Racing will be at Belmont Park, rebuilt to handle year-round racing year-round except for Saratoga starting I believe next September. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 29 18:35:39 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Jun 28 22:17:52 2025. Bill, can't thank you enough for all these images! They'll be in my mind as I operate to/from Mott Av.Thank you. Bill M. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Jun 29 18:36:21 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:52:54 2025. Excellent photos and thanks for sharing.Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Bill M. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 30 00:32:05 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by italianguyinsi on Sat Jun 28 19:51:55 2025. Well, they could run a single train of R-16s for opening day if it were the only train on the line. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Mon Jun 30 08:57:03 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 20:25:11 2025. lol |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Mon Jun 30 11:38:18 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 28 12:40:28 2025. That makes more sense. Thanks. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Jun 30 13:57:07 2025, in response to [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jun 28 10:05:52 2025. Super super photos!--Mark |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 30 18:55:54 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] June 28, 1956 - New Subway service To The Rockaways, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 30 00:32:05 2025. The motorman was probably told to take it easy.:) |
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