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Posted by steamdriven on Wed Jun 25 18:19:19 2025, in response to Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jun 25 17:30:43 2025. Well, it wasn't due to mental illness because Ms. DiBlasio's $1,000,000,000 Thrive program fixed all that.Maybe the stabee was an infidel. Infidel necks irresistibly tempt the sword, so not really a crime. Enjoy your future, New York. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jun 25 18:48:00 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by steamdriven on Wed Jun 25 18:19:19 2025. That loud flush you hear...... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 26 05:26:49 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by steamdriven on Wed Jun 25 18:19:19 2025. Enjoy your future, New York.New York if all goes well is not in this persons Future... Retirement beckons and a house already awaits.. In a Nice quiet Area. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jun 26 06:40:36 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 26 05:26:49 2025. Yes, I am certainly happy for you and your choice. I'd go west if I could but out of NY metro area is what all middle class should aspire to. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 27 11:55:19 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jun 26 06:40:36 2025. Thank you I’m so done with this area and it’s sad too because I’d thought I’d be retiring here..Now I’m looking forward to getting outta here.. Yet I’m patient Rome wasn’t built in a day hopefully my time will come. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 14:33:06 2025, in response to Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jun 25 17:30:43 2025. Not just "down". NYC is currently on track for its fewest annual murder total since 1951 or 1943 before that. It's all time low territory. The 2025 murder rate is similar to Nebraska, Idaho, or New Jersey. It's literally thousands fewer than the early 90's.Maybe our tolerance decreases as we get older? I think that mine has although my city has almost as many murders as NYC with less than half the people. Even that's considered low for a large US city. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jun 27 15:26:39 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 14:33:06 2025. "Crime" includes more than just murder. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 27 16:23:42 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 14:33:06 2025. Maybe our tolerance decreases as we get older?Reporting has intensified. Every terrible crime gets reported. That didn't used to be the case. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 16:30:10 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 27 16:23:42 2025. That makes sense. In our lifetimes NYC went from 3-5 murders per day from 1970-1995 to about 5 murders per week. As horrific crimes become more unusual, it would make sense that the intensity is greater. Plus traditional media modes have lost share, so they need to find a reason for you to watch and that reason is usually fear. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 16:35:39 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jun 27 15:26:39 2025. True, but I suspect that most violent crime is also way down from historic highs, although maybe not as much. Over the last 30-50 years, guns have become much more available and powerful guns even more so.Theft and quality of life crimes are probably down as well. Certainly graffiti isn't what it used to be. Things like smoking on trains and open drug use are up though. I think that end of the war on drugs created some of the mess that we see today. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 27 16:44:19 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jun 27 15:26:39 2025. The dissatisfaction comes from the large number of burglaries, grand larceny auto and quality of life concerns at least here in Queens. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Jun 27 16:58:26 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 16:35:39 2025. thanks for admitting that guns don't lead to an increase in violent crime.I knew you'd come around. |
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Posted by steamdriven on Fri Jun 27 17:03:12 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 14:33:06 2025. It's been said that recent deportations from NYC have changed behavior in a way that has disproportionately reduced crime, a possible mechanism being that people afraid of getting pinched watch their conduct in public places. I have no stats to argue whether this is true or false, anecdotally I've heard people on the ground floor of things say the city has gotten quieter in the past 3 months.Anyways, the stats are good news but there have still been too many subway push incidents, or rush-and throw incidents if you're under 200#. How often did those happen from 2000-2012? |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Jun 27 17:07:25 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by steamdriven on Fri Jun 27 17:03:12 2025. the deporting of criminals leading to less crime is somehow "disproportionate" to you?what's wrong with you? |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 27 17:46:45 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by steamdriven on Fri Jun 27 17:03:12 2025. I don't know how often subway pushing has happened but I remember it being reported on the news even when I was a kid 40-50 years ago. I think that Grandmaster Flash rapped about it in The Message. "Pushed that girl in front of the train took her to a doctor and sewed her arm on again" or something like that.Some of the increase in things like that is drugs. People have literally gone crazy taking drugs. Some were already crazy. |
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Posted by steamdriven on Fri Jun 27 21:45:09 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by rkba on Fri Jun 27 17:07:25 2025. No, that's not what I meant, and I don't think it's what I typed. Maybe I wasn't clear, lemme try again:Deporting people who are here illegally reduced crime by more than the number of actual criminals among the deported that's the (disproportionate). * My hunch is that is 2 or 3 categories of people may have changed their behavior: People here illegally that are here mostly for crime and people here illegally but mostly for work who like to sometimes see what they can get away with and people here legally but have an open warrant out somewhere which the city makes less than zero effort to enforce So crime may have gone down because - criminals were deported and also - because a larger group or groups of people who weren't deported changed their behavior I can't prove any of that, but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it * Yes, breaking immigration law is a crime, often several as 'stuff happens' along the way. But I'm using 'criminal' to mean people doing ---t in addition to jumping the immigration line. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Sat Jun 28 06:02:47 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 26 05:26:49 2025. I can go at 62 only 5 my years but that will all be under this A-hole. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 29 11:50:12 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Sat Jun 28 06:02:47 2025. I feel for you brother 25 years at 56 if all goes well I’m ghost… |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 12:19:50 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 29 11:50:12 2025. I had 25 years at age 57 but waited until age 62 and 30 years |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 29 16:46:50 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 12:19:50 2025. While I’m a patient person.This is one of the times my patience can only go so far… |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 18:00:17 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 29 16:46:50 2025. I'm hardly patient. When I began my career, our pension plan was 30/62 and that was my plan. Of course when upgraded to 25/55 I had options but I also loved my job. The extra 10% didn't hurt, either. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 29 18:52:01 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 18:00:17 2025. When I retired we had two options; 30/62 or 30/60. with full pension. Also complete medical & dental until 65. Also get paid half the value of your unused sick and vacation time. In other words if you had 30 sick days in the 'bank', you'd get paid for 15. But There was one catch. If you went 30/60 you had to surrender your Vanguard back to the MTA.I took the 30/60, having 38 years of seniority never once regretting my decision. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 18:59:52 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 29 18:52:01 2025. With 25/55 we got half pay after 25 years and 2% for each year beyond. I was able to cash in 1/2 of 240 sick days and up to 108 vacation days or 228 days at full pay. As management we also got to keep medical/dental/vision for life. All in all, not so bad. |
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Posted by Pelham Exp on Sun Jun 29 19:46:24 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 18:59:52 2025. I'd say that's pretty damn good. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 30 07:54:22 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by Pelham Exp on Sun Jun 29 19:46:24 2025. I'm not complaining |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 30 11:13:13 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Jun 29 18:59:52 2025. We don’t have that kind of luxury but we got some good things..I’ll concern myself with that next year the numbers and such… |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 30 21:45:55 2025, in response to Re: Another Subway Stabbing, posted by steamdriven on Fri Jun 27 21:45:09 2025. people here illegally but mostly for workOxymoron. |
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