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The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024 Tonight at 8:00 pm. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Apr 28 19:50:37 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. Right after Look Who’s Coming to Dinner |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 28 19:56:29 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. The original?? |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 20:10:43 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 28 19:56:29 2024. The original. It's also available on demand on Tubi and others |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 trivia |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 21:33:44 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. The co-ed with the long hair, Lucy Saroyan, was the half sister of Chris Matthau, Walter Matthau's son. She died in 2003. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 Trivia#2 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 21:41:45 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. Co-ed #2, credited as Carolyn Nelson, was actually Carolyn Nelson Sargent, the film's director. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 trivia |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 29 00:25:08 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 trivia, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 21:33:44 2024. Interesting. Weren't the supposed to be Hare Krishna?Btw they still gather at some Manhattan subway stations. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 29 00:25:21 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 28 19:56:29 2024. Yes. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 29 01:45:23 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. It's fun dissecting some scenes.After Mr Blue electrocutes himself, Walter Mathau jumps down from the benchwalk to the tracks. I think it was really him and not a stunt man. At the beginning, Mr Green gets on at 59/Lex. He enters from the uptown platform then uses the underpass to downtown trains. Why not just go to the downtown entrance? And when the train comes it's an R26 instead of an R22. The train stops at 59 and "dumps", breaks-in-emergency most likely to go into the relay and back to the yard. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Apr 29 20:54:57 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 29 01:45:23 2024. 7339 is seen across the platform at "Grand Central," coupled to R-10 2973. Then it's the lead motor as Pelham pulls into "28th St." Then as hijacked train leaves, the last car is misnumbered.When 7339 leads Pelham into "28th St.," its front destination sign has wide Brooklyn Bridge lettering. Then when it comes to a screeching halt after being tripped by a timer at the vert end, the front destination sign has much narrower lettering. When Pelham first enters 59th St., there is a noticeable gap between the rear section of the tran and the platform as Bud Carmody closes down. Then as he closes the front section, there is no gap between the train and the platform. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Apr 29 20:55:44 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. I still have it on VHS, DVD and Blu-ray. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 30 07:02:34 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Apr 29 20:54:57 2024. H O L L Y W O O D |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Apr 30 18:48:10 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 30 07:02:34 2024. Easy for us to comment like this since we know that subway system inside out. The average moviegoer wouldn't know what to look for or wouldn't notice. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 1 06:16:44 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 20:10:43 2024. The original was the best . The 2nd one in Canada was lousy . The third one was fair. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 07:51:06 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 1 06:16:44 2024. The trouble with the 3rd rendering, aside from the very obvious technical gaffs, was John Travolta. Where Robert Shaw was measured but menacing, John Travolta played an "over the top" psychotic - the same way he played over the top psychotic in Swordfish and Broken Arrow among many others. I also found the subplot of Denzel Washington's characters dishonesty, a needless distraction. |
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Posted by Dan on Wed May 1 12:21:01 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. I guess I'm in the minority of railfans who never though it was a good movie. Great cast in a mediocre movie. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 1 12:25:47 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Dan on Wed May 1 12:21:01 2024. It was a great movie.Deserving of the prime time slot on TCM. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 1 18:47:19 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 07:51:06 2024. Hector Elizondo was perfect as a psychotic maniac in the original. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 18:49:38 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 1 18:47:19 2024. Absolutely |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 1 18:53:21 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 1 06:16:44 2024. The getaway in the second rendition was true to the novel. If you've read it, the "gimmick," as it was called, consisted of a heavy iron mold, cast in the shape of the controller, which fit over it. There were three lengths of pipe, one of which fit tightly into the mold over the controller. The other two were joined loosely to the first length and were angled towards the cab side of the car, so that when the controller was moved to series (mot multiple or parallel), the two loose pieces could be pulled loose. But in order to join the pipes together, the front cab window had to be broken out. No doubt the TA put the kebosh on busting out a window on an active R-22. OTOH the Toronto cars used in the 1998 remake were about to be scrapped anyway, so chances are the TTC didn't care what happened to them. |
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Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 1 18:55:19 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 18:49:38 2024. Isn't he the only main character who's still alive? |
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Posted by GonzoUSN on Wed May 1 19:43:43 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 1 12:25:47 2024. I still haven't seen the 90's version. Is this available on any of the streaming services? |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed May 1 21:05:27 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by GonzoUSN on Wed May 1 19:43:43 2024. Here’s the 1998 version of the movie someone uploaded to YouTube. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 21:51:39 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 1 18:55:19 2024. Of the main characters, that's true. He's in his 80s. |
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Posted by GonzoUSN on Thu May 2 11:57:53 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed May 1 21:05:27 2024. Thank you for the link. I can't believe I sat thru the entire video without trying to kill myself. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 2 18:30:57 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 1 21:51:39 2024. I saw a subway ad once that featured him and he stated he's been a subway rider all his life. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 3 14:29:19 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by GonzoUSN on Thu May 2 11:57:53 2024. The Toronto system version was sickening to watch.This substitute version was basically a money grab for TV. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 3 18:14:22 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 3 14:29:19 2024. The actors were going through the motions. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 4 16:00:32 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 3 18:14:22 2024. Sea sickness.It was pretty obvious,too. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 4 16:01:10 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 3 18:14:22 2024. Sea sickness.It was pretty obvious,too. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat May 4 16:49:25 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. The Paris Theater on 58th St recently did a 1974 retrospective and I saw this for the first time on the big screen. A real treat to catch it in a packed theater (nearly sold out on a Sunday afternoon) on 35mm. Great crime thriller, and the subway details are close enough (the thing that bothered me the most was the obvious curve on what is a straight tunnel) that I couldn't bring myself to be upset with the inaccuracies. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat May 4 17:04:58 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by K. Trout on Sat May 4 16:49:25 2024. You're going to find continuity mistakes in every movie. There are quite a few in the "French Connection" car/train chase, but that didn't matter or detract from the excitement as you watched it again and again.Didnt stop it from walking away with a handful of Oscars either. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 4 20:24:47 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 4 16:01:10 2024. It was enough to make you puke. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 5 06:49:29 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by K. Trout on Sat May 4 16:49:25 2024. Awww, damn, I would've loved to see it on the big screen! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 15:39:42 2024, in response to The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 28 19:49:08 2024. The scene where Motorman Doyle is walking passengers on the roadbed back to 28th Street. I'm guessing that those were transit workers getting some cash as extras.At the end Mr Blue and Mr Grey get into another dispute, in the emergency exit, as they are escaping. I think Mr. Grey was going to shoot all three of his partners in crime but Mr. Blue shot him first. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 22 15:59:51 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 15:39:42 2024. Well the angry man was Joseph Attles. He was an actor. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 22 18:24:48 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 15:39:42 2024. In the novel, Mr. Gray aka Joe Welcome gets shot by Mr. Blue aka Ryder for not getting rid of his gun. He didn't threaten to kill anyone. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 18:31:39 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 22 18:24:48 2024. Same happens in the movie. Mr. Grey refuses to give up the machine gun, saying he wants "heavy artillery in case they're waiting".Grey seems to point his gun at his cohorts but Blue shoots first. Grey was probably planning to shoot all three others to take their money and not worry about someone getting caught and switching. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 22 21:40:40 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 18:31:39 2024. I didn’t see it that way. But it is plausible |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 22 21:50:03 2024, in response to Re: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 on TCM, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 22 21:40:40 2024. When Grey turns around it kind of looks like he's about to shoot but gets shot first. |
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