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12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Dec 4 22:08:17 2022

https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/man-touches-third-rail-crossing-nyc-subway-tracks-hit-by-train/

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 4 22:56:03 2022, in response to 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Dec 4 22:08:17 2022.

Oh well

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Dec 4 23:40:45 2022, in response to 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Dec 4 22:08:17 2022.

Is there any amount of therapy in the world that can help someone who witnessed that? That’s a brutal way to go out.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 4 23:59:49 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Dec 4 23:40:45 2022.

Are you talking about the electrocution or being hit by a train?

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 5 00:33:40 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 4 23:59:49 2022.

Seeing both of them in tandem, this story read out like a Final Destination scene. Just witnessing one of those in and of itself would be brutal enough (for me at least).

I was about to say that the MTA should put some kind of passenger-accessible third rail-shutoff safety mechanism in stations for situations like this, but riders would probably abuse it.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 5 01:51:04 2022, in response to 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Dec 4 22:08:17 2022.

Another statistic.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:21 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 5 00:33:40 2022.

There are such devices every 500-600 feet in the tunnels and outside of every station. I saw my first 12-9 at about 16 years of age riding to school. I can still remember the grimace on the guys face but the smell of burning flesh never leaves you. That said, after 30 years and responding to countless 12-9s, neither seems disturbing to me now.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:39 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Dec 5 01:51:04 2022.

Precisely

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 5 02:18:15 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:21 2022.

Exactly. During the few years I was with the TAPD, I had my share of 3rd rail and train deaths.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 5 04:53:27 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:21 2022.

Thank you for the info about the devices, didn't know that.

I saw my first 12-9 at about 16 years of age riding to school. I can still remember the grimace on the guys face but the smell of burning flesh never leaves you. That said, after 30 years and responding to countless 12-9s, neither seems disturbing to me now.

Smelling burning flesh? F@#$ that! I've come across a couple of dead bodies in my hotels over the years, but usually from heart attacks or natural causes, not being splattered like a watermelon. Aside from that though, my railroad friend and his co-workers share the same sentiment as you, they only tend to remember two types of these incidents: The first time they struck someone, and the worst time they struck someone.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by jailhousedoc on Mon Dec 5 18:06:29 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:39 2022.

In my career as a physician I have seen many instances of people meeting their end in gruesome ways - then there are those who deliberately put themselves in harms way for thrills or ' just because ' - it never ends.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 6 01:41:19 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by jailhousedoc on Mon Dec 5 18:06:29 2022.

There was no shortage of incidents during my time.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 6 02:25:24 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 5 01:54:21 2022.

Is that device located near where the blue light is along the wall of the tunnel?

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 6 02:35:30 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 6 02:25:24 2022.

As I said there is a blue light on each track but there is only one EAB associated with those blue lights

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Dec 7 18:02:11 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 5 04:53:27 2022.

Saddest part of my career wasnt the 12-9s I went through personally but watching a stray German Shepherd north of Euclid at the diamond hit the third rail on PM rush around 1993 working the C. I have been adopting strays ever since from ASPCA or North Shore

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 7 22:10:06 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Dec 7 18:02:11 2022.

Growing up near the Sea Beach open cut, I was amazed at the cats going under the 3rd rail, their backs seeming to be almost touching the rail itself, but nothing happening to them.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Dec 7 23:06:50 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 7 22:10:06 2022.

Maybe , just the fur touched and no contact with the body..?….


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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 7 23:56:48 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Dec 7 23:06:50 2022.

Probably

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 8 13:16:14 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 7 23:56:48 2022.

Or that they were not grounded. I venture to say that if the ballast under the 3rd rail was wet, a cat would certainly feel a tingle.

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Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Dec 8 20:41:00 2022, in response to Re: 12-9 on (6) @ 51 St, 31 y.o. Male touch 3rd rail & killed by train, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Dec 7 18:02:11 2022.

German Shepherds are strong and smart dogs that only should be in the care of experienced owners, but they're not leading to sad stories like this. Glad that you've been doing your part in preventing this though.

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