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PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 20 10:46:02 2022

In the summer of 2003 I was between school assignments and had a bit more time to take railfan day trips to places like New York City. On one such trip I made what was likely my so far only journeys to the termini of the (@) and ($) lines in the Bronx. Also included are a variety of NEC and HLBR photos. You can find the complete set of photos here ( mirror ).

Because the NJT RiverLINE had not yet opened I was forced to suck it up and pay SEPTA's Trenton surcharge. Starting off at 30th St station I happened to catch a north/westbound CSX train on the Philadelphia High Line with a pair of leased SD40-2's providing the power. Such a sight today would be highly unusual with the near total dominance of wide cab road units on main line manifest freight trains.



The last of SEPTA's interlocking towers has been closed in the spring of 2003 and the new semi-automated CTC system was still causing some operational issues, specifically communication between SEPTA dispatchers and Amtrak operators at ZOO tower. In this case ZOO was not informed that an eastbound R7 would be heading out on track #1, typically used by eastbound R5 trains. The result was a mis-routing at ZOO interlocking which was corrected by getting the Trenton bound train stopped and re-routed over the "Berry" tracks that were previously used by PRR freight trains. I was later informed that this was likely the last passenger movement over #2 Berry track that was soon taken out of service and then removed as redundant.









Meeting a southbound Regional at North Philadelphia with a Phase III Aem-7 leading.



Skipping ahead to the IRT White Plains Road Line, my outbound (@) train passes an inbound (@) with a new set of R142's at the famous Simpson St curve. A re-signaling effort was under way to replace the 1940s/50s vintage IRT signaling.



A number of R36WF Redbird trainsets, some inexplicably signed for the (7), were still in service at the East 180th Street yard.



Both the White Plains Road and Jerome Ave lines retained some of their original interlocking towers, since closed and performing other roles. Most of these would be demolished over the next 10 years.







At Mosholu Parkway I encountered an R142 trainset undergoing acceptance testing. The first car was #6935 and the last #1211.





West 4th St tower on the other hand would find a way to stay open until 2019.



Taking PATH across the Hoboken, Comet 1 cab cars #5128 and. #5108 were still in service on their traditional Erie-Lackawanna territory.



Also at Hoboken terminal was Comet III cab car #5010 and Arrow III MU #1516.



Heading over the the Hoboken Terminal HLBR platform LRV #2025 was ready to depart.



Departing for downtown Jersey City past former CNJ GP40P #4107 and the still open TERMINAL TOWER,





The extension along the Hudson River to the Townelle Ave stop was largely built, but not yet open.



LRV #2025 departing Exchange Place.



On The PATH back to Newark Penn station at WALDO interlocking.





On a previous NYC journey I was witness to a landslide in PATH's Bergen hill cut. Several months later the failed retaining wall had been replaced and reinforced.



HUDSON tower at the old Manhattan Transfer location.



Rolling past DOCK tower and into Newark Penn Station's platform H.





At that point it was time to proceed back to Philly via the costly SEPTA transfer at Trenton.



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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 20 10:58:53 2022, in response to PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 20 10:46:02 2022.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

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Posted by jailhousedoc on Fri May 20 11:14:59 2022, in response to PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 20 10:46:02 2022.

i remember when East 180th Street yard had semaphore signals - and the only other place where I saw one was at New Lots Ave. station. Do you have any more pictures of those old signals in use on the subways and commuter lines ?

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by randyo on Fri May 20 23:16:02 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by jailhousedoc on Fri May 20 11:14:59 2022.

I recall seeing semaphores N/O Fordham Rd on the Jerome Line.

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 23 00:30:01 2022, in response to PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 20 10:46:02 2022.

Good pics! Thanks for sharing!

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon May 23 01:37:31 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by 3-9 on Mon May 23 00:30:01 2022.

It's my pleasure.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon May 23 12:20:48 2022, in response to PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 20 10:46:02 2022.

VERY NICE PHOTOS

YOU WOULD BE DANGEROUS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

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GOOD SHOTS

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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon May 23 16:33:20 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by jailhousedoc on Fri May 20 11:14:59 2022.

stillwell ave had a semaphore at the tower in 1977.

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Posted by jailhousedoc on Mon May 23 19:20:36 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon May 23 16:33:20 2022.

I would like to see a picture of that one - I also found that the Jerome Ave. line had some, but I did not see them when I was a child - my parents never had the occasion to use the Jerome Ave. line. I did remember seeng semaphores on the New Haven line on the route near Mt. Vernon and eastward, but that was it.

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 24 07:12:45 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by jailhousedoc on Mon May 23 19:20:36 2022.

I would like to see a picture of that one
Look past the R-10 by the tower. (December 1979)

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by jailhousedoc on Tue May 24 12:50:20 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 24 07:12:45 2022.

Thanks ! Did it get placed in a museum, or did it get scrapped ? There is a lot of memorable items that have been lost over time. Still, progress has to be made.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 24 13:02:26 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by jailhousedoc on Tue May 24 12:50:20 2022.

Thanks ! Did it get placed in a museum, or did it get scrapped ? There is a lot of memorable items that have been lost over time. Still, progress has to be made.

That R-10 was scrapped and I believe the semaphore signal was too. Unless it was preserved without my knowledge.

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by jailhousedoc on Wed May 25 09:58:10 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 24 13:02:26 2022.

I knew that the R-10 was most likely gone but space for the newer trains is necessary. The semaphore would be a nice item for a museum. Doubt if it is still there, but one never knows. Do you have any more photos of semaphore signals in the system ? East 180th street yard just outside of the car shops had some of them - now all are gone. I saw a picture taken on the Jerome Ave. line between Moshulu Parkway and Bedford Park Blvd. showing one. Somewhere in an obscure location there might still be one - even operational !

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Posted by randyo on Thu May 26 15:43:53 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon May 23 16:33:20 2022.

The semaphore was not a part of the working signal system.It was put there strictly for decorative purposes after Stillwell Tower was decommissioned.

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Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu May 26 20:49:13 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by randyo on Thu May 26 15:43:53 2022.

it was working in 1977,iirc.


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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri May 27 07:02:02 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu May 26 20:49:13 2022.

it was working in 1977,iirc.

As I remember, there was a gate for employee access to the tower at the edge of the platform. When you opened the gate, the semaphore would change the aspect.

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri May 27 08:49:59 2022, in response to Re: PHOTOS: BRONX AND BACK, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri May 27 07:02:02 2022.



Bill: I believe you are right about that.

There is a similar installation at the west end of the Manhattan bound platform at Journal Square. IT is a crossing gate for employees only.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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