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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022 Correct me if I am wrong but the R-32s seem to have the house record for longevity on the subway system. They entered service in 1964 and made their last run in 2022. So that's fifty eight years. The previous record was held by the Gibbs High Voltage Motors which were in service from 1904 to 1958. Notice I said subway system not the el system. The BU/Q-Type trailers on the Myrtle Avenue El ran from 1904 to 1969. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 13 07:30:23 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. I think you're correct.One cool coincidence: the Gibbs and R32s shared a number series! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 13 08:01:13 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. I think part of the reason the R32 did so well is that it spent so much time underground instead of exposed to the outdoors over the last 25 years.Many cars were on the E line for the longest time. It's underground. Many layup positions underground. Other cars on the C also underground with a sheltered yard at Pitkin. It's assignments to these lines for so long must have helped preserve them. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Jan 13 08:08:22 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 13 08:01:13 2022. How about the complete rebuild they went through?Then the starting of SMS and maintenance done before things broke instead of waiting for something to break before taking a train in for service. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 13 08:14:01 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Jan 13 08:08:22 2022. Well that primarily. But avoiding the rain, snow and sun and extreme temperatures had to contribute.All the tunnel time vs outdoors matters. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 13 08:37:21 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. 57 years, brah.Not 58. First cars to hit NY arrived September 9 1964. 57 years ago. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 08:45:54 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 13 07:30:23 2022. Your absolutely right. The Gibbs car were numbered 3350-3649. The R-32 A's had the same numbers. The original R-32 were 3650-3949. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 13 09:32:20 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. Those Q cars must have been quite the interesting ride in 1969. |
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Posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:45:13 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. 57 years and 3 months, actually; #3360 first ran on the subway system Oct. 9, 1964. They didn't even make it to 58 in actuality. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:12:30 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:45:13 2022. For seniority purposes it’s 58. It doesn’t matter if it was January or October of ‘64. It’s 58 years in service. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 11:54:58 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:12:30 2022. Damn Right. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Jan 13 13:30:18 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 13 08:37:21 2022. Right! |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Thu Jan 13 13:37:28 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by W.B. on Thu Jan 13 10:45:13 2022. Do you happen to know which subway line #3360 ran on on Oct. 9, 1964? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 14:06:13 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Italianstallion on Thu Jan 13 13:30:18 2022. No |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. Correct me if I am wrong but the R-32s seem to have the house record for longevity on the subway systemI see you are cherry picking by limiting consideration to NYC subway lines. The R32's were not a world beater. They didn't come close to these: 
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jan 13 15:02:51 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. The Patco fleet (mostly Budds) will likely take the US title as they are only 5 years younger and recently put through GOH. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 13 15:18:08 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. Does the North Korean capital city have some subway cars from Berlin built in the 1930's ? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 13 15:52:51 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. This is a NYC board! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 16:57:36 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. That’s out of order |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 13 18:04:42 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. That’s some nice trivia but it’s obvious that Larry was talking about the NEW YORK subway system. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 13 18:05:54 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Joe V on Thu Jan 13 15:18:08 2022. 1950s-60s, so at this point only a few years older than the R-32 and not close to the Buenos Aires record. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jan 13 18:15:08 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 13 18:04:42 2022. IAWTP! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 13 20:26:01 2022, in response to R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 06:48:20 2022. The BMT standards lasted 54 years as a fleet, but the average standard put in ~47 years of service. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 13 21:05:57 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. 
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 13 21:18:26 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Thu Jan 13 13:37:28 2022. Probably the Q since they did not run on the N till the Q had a full fleet of R32's. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 13 23:51:23 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 08:45:54 2022. The rest of the R-32s had numbers from the Deck Roof and Hedley series. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 13 23:53:05 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 13 15:52:51 2022. Says who? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 13 23:56:32 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 13 23:53:05 2022. It doesn't SAY it per se, but we all know it is. Yes, other railroading rapid transit systems are mentioned as well. |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Fri Jan 14 01:29:44 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 13 21:18:26 2022. Thanks, Bill, I did not know that the Q first got a full fleet of R32s before they were also distributed elsewhere. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 14 02:11:17 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 13 14:30:48 2022. He said HOUSE. As in "in-house". As in "NYCT/NYC". We all knew what he meant. Except you. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jan 14 11:13:35 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Fri Jan 14 01:29:44 2022. As a new railfan that pissed me off because as a school kid from Greenpoint I didn't get a chance to ride one for awhile. I would see them laid up on the s/b Brighton Exp. track every weekend. |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Fri Jan 14 17:17:53 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 13 18:05:54 2022. The London Underground Bakerloo 1972 Stock were put in service between 1972 and 1974, but they were recently refurbished and are planned to retire in 2035. That will be 63 years in service. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 14 17:22:05 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by GojiMet86 on Fri Jan 14 17:17:53 2022. I think it was the Picadilly line that got its length doubled, they re-fleeted it, and scrapped everything that ran there after 20 - 25 years. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Jan 15 00:47:54 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 13 23:51:23 2022. Too bad there are only two left - 3662 the Deck Roofer at Branford and 3352 the Gibbs up at Seashore |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Jan 15 06:48:18 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Joe V on Fri Jan 14 17:22:05 2022. You're thinking of the Jubilee line. And the cars that got replaced weren't 20. Some weren't even 10. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:28:47 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 14:06:13 2022. Cars did Not reach the SEPTEMBER 9 2022,so they OFFICIALLY retired at 57. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:34:14 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 13 11:12:30 2022. No.Don't be a silky over something so simple. 57 years is 57 years. There is Nothing you can do to change that,other that argue with time /history. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:36:49 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jan 13 11:54:58 2022. Ridiculous.But,if it makes you feel better, it's okay for you to WANT it to be the truth. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 15 18:50:07 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:28:47 2022. Let's say that they retired in their fifty-eighth year. Will that make everyone happy? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 19:13:18 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 15 18:50:07 2022. Why lie about it?The cars were pulled from service 2021,never to return. They last ran fully in J service... They were pulled because of the pandemic. The Only reason they hung around was because of the door problems the R179 had. The 32s were fantastic cars. I liked them a lot,but was pretty disappointed because they were southern subway cars...rarely seen along the Eastern Division lines. Facts. Arrived via New York Central, to Grand Central Sept of 1964. Enter service on the Broadway Brighton Express later that year ,around October of 1964. That was 57 years ago. Period. Not 58. What's wrong with you people.? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 15 19:23:53 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:28:47 2022. No. It’s seniority not a birthday. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 15 19:26:37 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 18:34:14 2022. I’m not being silky.The day I started at my job I was in my first year. A year to the day after I was in my second year not my first like a birthday or anniversary. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 15 20:09:58 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 13 08:37:21 2022. I would settle on 57+ years, except Wikipedia says they last ran in "regular" service in October 2020 so that would be only 56 years. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 15 20:32:19 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 15 20:09:58 2022. YES! This was just a delayed farewell trip due to COVID. It’s like saying the R-9s have been in use since 1932 continuously every time they bring them out for holiday trips. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 15 22:00:28 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by VictorM on Sat Jan 15 20:09:58 2022. That’s 57 in October 2020. It’s not a subtraction problem where you’re finding a difference. The count starts on day 1. This October makes 59 years. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 15 22:02:53 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 15 20:32:19 2022. No it’s not. They didn’t carry any passengers from the mid 70s until 2003.Here’s a question for everyone to think of; Where the R-32s considered retired in October 2020 or were they on the revenue inactive list? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 16 11:34:34 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 15 22:00:28 2022. It IS the same as a subtraction problem. There is no reason at all to use Roman-style "inclusive" counting. But as Andrew Saucci said, they were retired "in their fifty-eigth year". |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 16 12:49:36 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 15 19:13:18 2022. I still consider the R-32s as BMT cars, partly because that's where they started their careers, partly because my very first subway ride was a shiny new R-32 N in 1965. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 16 14:37:48 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 16 11:34:34 2022. Look at a seniority list |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jan 16 16:17:02 2022, in response to Re: R-32 Longevity Record, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 13 08:01:13 2022. They were also completely made of stainless steel, so they stood up to rust and rot more than the R38/40/42/44. All of these car classes were retired specifically for rust issues. |
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