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[PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022 Before the 10:00 am departure, the R-32's made a quick run to Prospect Park and back to Brighton Beach where this photo was taken. It seemed like an eternity waiting for the doors to open A short R-32 bio posted on the picture window. A Newkirk Image at Newkirk Plaza. On the return trip to 96th St also at Newkirk Plaza. The curve at Beverley Rd has been a favorite of photographers over the years. For the 3:00pm departure, the crowd is waiting for the R-32's to return from layup. The banner closely resembles the 1964 version when the R-32's made their debut at Grand Central Terminal. Roll signs that are either originals or copies of originals in stalled only on #3360/61. All other cars in the consist sported the current roll signs. South motor was #3894.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by W.B.* on Mon Jan 10 15:16:40 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* On 3360 and 3361, they had a stick-on simulating an original Budd plate.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Jan 10 15:45:25 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Beautiful photos.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 16:07:41 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by W.B. on Mon Jan 10 15:16:40 2022.* On 3360 and 3361, they had a stick-on simulating an original Budd plate. Yep. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 16:08:26 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 10 15:45:25 2022.* Beautiful photos. Thanks. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Jan 10 16:44:03 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Seems a shame to retire these tough old soldiers but I guess time marches on. If there was a Subway Car Hall of Fame, the R-32s would be enshrined, joining the BMT Standards, the Arnines and the Redbirds as the finest rolling stock this city has ever seen.
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Posted by WayneJay* on Mon Jan 10 16:56:53 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Thanks a bunch for sharing (as usual) such awesome photos. I really like the decals applied to 3360-3361 to simulate the R32 in their original form.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Q23* on Mon Jan 10 18:15:21 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Great stuff! I wasn't able to stick around for the very last part (the last trip + running the OOS shuttles between Brighton Beach and Kings Highway), but it was a good day. Good thing it was only drizzling for the most part during the day.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Mon Jan 10 18:51:59 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by W.B. on Mon Jan 10 15:16:40 2022.* The blue doors sealed it for me, just as they did back in 1965.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Mon Jan 10 18:52:39 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 16:44:03 2022.* The Triplexes deserve to be in it, along with the Gibbs Hi-Vs.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Catfish 44* on Mon Jan 10 18:59:19 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 16:44:03 2022.* We’d have to wait 5 years after retirement though.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Joe V* on Mon Jan 10 19:04:42 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 10 18:51:59 2022.* Though the window gasket of black rubber gave way to aluminum. I don't remember if the original door windows were a little taller.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Ble-nimx* on Mon Jan 10 19:08:46 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 16:07:41 2022.* The flat wheels on 3360 and dead motor by end of night made it real.
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Posted by William A. Padron* on Mon Jan 10 19:09:09 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Excellent set of images, *Bill Newkirk*! Outstanding group of catches along the R-32's ruling the Brighton Line for its last hurrah! Thanks for sharing and posting all of these on SubChat! -William A. Padron ["86th-2nd, 4:00pm-4:15pm"]
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 19:23:15 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by WayneJay on Mon Jan 10 16:56:53 2022.* Thanks a bunch for sharing (as usual) such awesome photos. I really like the decals applied to 3360-3361 to simulate the R32 in their original form. Thanks, that recreation of the original front was the highlight of their retirement. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 19:25:03 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Q23 on Mon Jan 10 18:15:21 2022.* Great stuff! I wasn't able to stick around for the very last part (the last trip + running the OOS shuttles between Brighton Beach and Kings Highway), but it was a good day. Good thing it was only drizzling for the most part during the day. If the weather was dryer and warmer, I would have stuck around to the end. BillNewkirk
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 19:27:04 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Ble-nimx on Mon Jan 10 19:08:46 2022.* The flat wheels on 3360 and dead motor by end of night made it real. Flat wheels aside, they did run well. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 19:33:50 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Jan 10 19:09:09 2022.* Excellent set of images, Bill Newkirk! Outstanding group of catches along the R-32's ruling the Brighton Line for its last hurrah! Thanks for sharing and posting all of these on SubChat! Thanks William. Kinda sad for me, like I lost a friend. I first saw them by accident when riding the Sea Beach line when I was 13 years old. At Fort Hamilton Pkwy station, I saw something on the adjacent track that was bright silver. I got off and my eyes saw this new subway car that was shiny and bright with blue doors. I must have been at that station for over an hour watching the performance testing while AB's were making station stops. Great memories. Bill Newkirk
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[PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Photo I took with dad's 35mm rangefinder camera when I was 18 years old (Photo: Summer 1969).
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Posted by jabrams* on Mon Jan 10 20:17:49 2022, in response to [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022.* Hi, If the sign was a paste on, why 57th Street and not 96th Street. Would the 57th St. sign confuse the regular passengers, or were they told to just wait for the next train as I assume the train was running on the 6th Ave. line anyway and would never reach Bway and 57th Street.
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by zac* on Mon Jan 10 20:21:33 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Great pics. Now I wish I'd gone, or at least to see it go by from one of the overpasses.
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Re: [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image
Posted by Catfish 44* on Mon Jan 10 21:29:17 2022, in response to [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022.* Beautiful
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Posted by William A. Padron* on Mon Jan 10 21:32:40 2022, in response to [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022.* Great image catch of the R-32 on the "D" along the Brighton, *Bill Newkirk*! Thanks so much for posting and sharing this on Subchat! -William A. Padron ["'We could take the train to Coney Island...', Kim Carnes, 2004"]
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Re: [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image
Posted by William A. Padron* on Mon Jan 10 21:41:32 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by jabrams on Mon Jan 10 20:17:49 2022.* The train was running in regular service all the way between 96th-2nd and Brighton Beach via the Broadway (Manhattan) BMT, and there were announcements over the PA system that the train was going to make regular stops, including on the SAS. The G.O. that had for running regular "Q" trains going in one direction (N/B) to 96th Street via the Monty Hall Tubes, while the "N" and "R" would have taken the Manny B, was cancelled for that weekend anyway. The NYTM did not do the add-ins stickies for "96th St,-2nd Av." on the R-32's in all the cars, as they did for the R-1/9's going up there on the Holiday runs in 2017. One of the better unanswered questions. -William A. Padron [(Q) Broadway Brighton"] [Exit \| 86 Street \ North Side"]
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Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Mon Jan 10 21:52:47 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* NICE PHOTOS
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Jan 10 22:02:20 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 10 18:59:19 2022.* True - who knows, the MTA may have to bring them back the way they brought back the R-16s in the ‘70s when the R44/46 scandal hit.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Jan 10 22:06:21 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jan 10 18:52:39 2022.* I don’t know about the Triplexes. They didn’t have a very long career (less than 40 years in some cases) and from what I’ve read, they were very heavy. True, they were innovative but that’s not enough to enshrine them, in my opinion. The Gibbs cars are a sentimental choice. People love them because they were first.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Mon Jan 10 22:56:03 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 22:02:20 2022.* As we await the wonderful R-211 fiasco.
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry* on Mon Jan 10 23:20:34 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* Fantastic images, Bill! Unbelievable, they actually put in the original roll signs or a spitting image of them, for the Q Broadway Express. And the blue doors! And the near perfect Q destination pastee up front. Hurray for all those behind the scenes who made it happen! The crowds remind of what I encountered on the Q Brighton Express in 1965-67 when I went to Tech HS. So close to the real thing way back when. I wish I could have participated. Thanks for the great images!
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Posted by randyo* on Tue Jan 11 01:38:36 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 22:06:21 2022.* How about the Multis?
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry* on Tue Jan 11 02:21:37 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 16:44:03 2022.* Arnines as "finest"? Sorry, I have to disagree. Utilitarian yes, but uninnovative, squared sides windows and doors, little door windows, all in all ugly as hell.
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry* on Tue Jan 11 02:28:38 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:27:04 2022.* Did they run at full speed down the hill toward Newkirk Plaza? And how about southbound toward Sheepshead Bay? If they did it must have been really exciting!
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry* on Tue Jan 11 02:38:31 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by W.B. on Mon Jan 10 15:16:40 2022.* "On 3360 and 3361, they had a stick-on simulating an original Budd plate." Do you mean the silver plate "Built by the Budd Company"? It would be great to have a photograph of that, too.
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Re: [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image
Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Tue Jan 11 03:55:03 2022, in response to [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022.* lovely. So what kind of rangefinder?
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Posted by Joe V* on Tue Jan 11 06:38:44 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 10 22:56:03 2022.* Or another R179 one
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Posted by Joe V* on Tue Jan 11 06:41:21 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Tue Jan 11 02:21:37 2022.* Few if any made 40 years. I think most people, crew and passengers alike, did not regard the R9 as an improvment over the Standards that were 20 years olde on the Eastern Division, even with fresh interior paint. They seemed old from day one and were noisy.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Jan 11 06:48:32 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jan 11 03:55:03 2022.* ovely. So what kind of rangefinder? It was a Cavalier, he bought it at the Willoughby Peerless store on West 32nd St between 7th and 6th Ave. Bill Nerwekirk
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Tue Jan 11 06:48:52 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Tue Jan 11 02:38:31 2022.* Designed and Built By Budd
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Jan 11 06:49:49 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jan 10 21:52:47 2022.* NICE PHOTOS Thank you. The RFW was retired that day. :( Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Jan 11 06:51:38 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Mon Jan 10 23:20:34 2022.* Fantastic images, Bill! Thanks Harry. It was a sad yet exciting day. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Jan 11 06:53:26 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Tue Jan 11 02:28:38 2022.* Did they run at full speed down the hill toward Newkirk Plaza? And how about southbound toward Sheepshead Bay? If they did it must have been really exciting! They seemed to run full speed. They weren't slow. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Tue Jan 11 07:18:06 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 11 06:41:21 2022.* Ah, OK. Thanks
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Posted by MainR3664* on Tue Jan 11 08:11:15 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* My wife and I were on the 11:00 departure from 96th Street. We rode in car 3647. I'll confess that when we got to Brighton Beach, we didn't wait for the return trip- we just took an R46 Q back to Manhattan.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Tue Jan 11 08:12:55 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jan 11 06:53:26 2022.* I had us going about 45 mph on the Relive app.
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Posted by MainR3664* on Tue Jan 11 08:17:57 2022, in response to [PHOTO] The R-32 Newkirk (Ave) Image, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:42:52 2022.* Incredible!! The vibrant colors make it look like it was just last year! I suppose the original car ends and old-tyle signal give away that it was not, LOL
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Posted by MainR3664* on Tue Jan 11 08:19:16 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 10 16:44:03 2022.* I doubt the NTTs will last as long, at least not without major updates. All those screens have to be delicate...
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Posted by Mack C-49* on Tue Jan 11 09:42:28 2022, in response to [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 14:37:50 2022.* I remember the first time I saw a Brightliner. It was on the Manhattan Bridge. All that shiny metal set off by the rich blue doors was really stunning, especially compared with the appearance of the rest of the fleet in the mid 60s (R-11s notwithstanding). Rebuilds helpfully added air conditioning but sacrificed the distinctive NYCTA metal spring-loaded hold straps. Also, the blue doors were sacrificed, and the bonnets were destroyed--the R-38 rebuilds were done far more attractively--but the R-32s remained a great fleet. Too bad they didn't let them get to year 60! So close! No more railfan window anywhere. We've also lost rear windows in buses, but that's another disappointment.
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Posted by W.B.* on Tue Jan 11 09:49:52 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Joe V on Mon Jan 10 19:04:42 2022.* No, they were of the same measurements. I measured from the base, not from the point where the window began.
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Posted by W.B.* on Tue Jan 11 09:51:18 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:25:03 2022.* My philosophy and practice has always been to only do one round trip. Part of it has to do with my particular stamina at my age, the other part having to do with letting others enjoy one last run.
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Posted by W.B.* on Tue Jan 11 09:53:58 2022, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The R-32 Farewell Run, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 10 19:23:15 2022.* Those numerals that spelled out car numbers on the front are one of those "lost fonts" you don't see anymore. Those, and the numerals on the fronts of 'Fishbowl' buses and Flxible New Looks, and all the type widths on the Transign mylar roll signs. They were as much a part of New York as those they were affixed to.
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