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Posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021 In this episode of the HubTalk Chronicles, we will be talking about the Crosstown (G) Line. For all the (G) line customers, you guys are in luck. The SMEEs 4-car consists of R46 and R68/As will be swapped with 5-car consists of R160s. The (G) will be going back home from the Coney Island Yard to the Jamaica Yard, the first time since 2010 when the (G) was severed from Queens Blvd in the 2010 cuts. Good news for riders. Bad news for the N, (Q), and (W) line straphangers as they will see more of these R46s and R68/As until the new R211s arrive later on in the decade. This is done due to CBTC installations on Culver (which is going on now) and on Crosstown (which will start later on) as part of former NYCT-President Andy Byfords plan to modernize the entire subway system in less than 40 years. Listen and enjoy.New Podcast Episode: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:20:33 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. I cant understand why the R-160s assigned to the G cant still be maintained at CIYd since it would be closer to its south terminal that Court Sq is to JYd. |
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Posted by Chicago44 on Tue Oct 12 04:01:02 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:20:33 2021. They wanted to keep all of the 5 car R160 at Jamaica Yard instead. |
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Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders |
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Posted by Chicago44 on Tue Oct 12 04:01:03 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:20:33 2021. They wanted to keep all of the 5 car R160 at Jamaica Yard instead. |
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Posted by gbs on Tue Oct 12 05:59:29 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. The only good news for G riders will be longer trains, not newer trains of the same short length. This may be good news for the train crews, especially the conductors, but the riders will still have to run down the platforms to catch the trains, and walk long distances to exit. The increase in the number of doors will have minimal impact, because the G trains are rarely packed and station dwell time is almost never an issue. What would also help would be to speed up the timers between Court Sq and 21 St. The trains that have to switch tracks (in either direction) must crawl painfully slowly through the middle track with all the lunar whites. Lucky for the Court Sq dispatchers that they don't have to run too many trains per hour. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:59:32 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by gbs on Tue Oct 12 05:59:29 2021. Won't G trains still be 5 car OPTO ? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 08:04:07 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. What is such good news / bad news? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Oct 12 09:15:28 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by gbs on Tue Oct 12 05:59:29 2021. Longer?4 x 75' = 300' 5 x 60' = 300' |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Oct 12 12:12:30 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:59:32 2021. More than likely. |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Oct 12 12:14:30 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. This was discussed already (but can always be discussed more.http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1587202 |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Oct 12 15:34:13 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Oct 12 09:15:28 2021. Hes saying this change is not good news - the only good news would be if they were to have longer trains in the future. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 12 22:20:03 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. Do you think that part of the reason for the equipment shift might be the revitalization and regentrification of the neighborhoods served by the G line? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 12 22:27:50 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. Whats wrong with the R46 & R68s? They have a comfy ride & the transverse seating is a big plus. If a survey were taken & be willing to guess that the average rider would prefer the ride & feel of the older cars than the sterile polished R160s with their shinny park benches. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Oct 12 23:02:19 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 12 22:27:50 2021. Thanks! Fisk Ave Jim |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Oct 13 01:11:06 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 12 22:27:50 2021. Furthermore with the R46 and R68 they could increase the length of the trains to 6 cars, a nice compromise between the current too-short 4 cars and full-blown 8 cars which may not be available. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 13 01:51:09 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:59:32 2021. Won't G trains still be 5 car OPTO ?Max allowed length for OPTO as per contract 300 feet.. Five car R160 Unit 301.5 feet... So no deal... Union is on it though so they talking to management. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:03:51 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Chicago44 on Tue Oct 12 04:01:02 2021. But aren't some 5 car R-160 units maintained at CIYd anyhow? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:09:27 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 13 01:51:09 2021. Why should there be a 1.5 ft difference between 4 X 75 footers and 5 X 60 footers? The difference is so minuscule that if the TWU were to try and protest they would be laughed out of court. Not only that but the distance between the C/R position and the "long" end of a train on the Flushing Line exceeds that by a few ft anyhow so based on past practice, the union would lose. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 13 02:20:08 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:09:27 2021. ? Why wouldn't there be a 1.5 foot difference in length? It's a precise measurement.I agree that the court would rule against the union. Both 4Χ75 and 5Χ60 use same car markers and CR boards. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:28:04 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by gbs on Wed Oct 13 01:11:06 2021. They could increase R-46s to 6 cars but not R-68ssince with the exception of the Fkln Shuttle fleet all 68s are linked as 4 cars units. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 06:45:42 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:28:04 2021. Between 6206/07 permanently linked to a pair of 6100's due to the other 2 being retired from the derailment north of 125 a few years ago and from one car of 6214/16 permanently linked to the surviving 3 60xx cars from the 14/8 vandalism derailment about a year ago with the mate in storage/cannibalized, there wouldn't be enough R46 pairs to have the 6 running as 6 car R46's.That's 2 fewer R46 pairs available today than there was when they ran 6 cars when the G went to Continental. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 13 02:20:08 2021. That's true but on curved stations with the t/o stopping at the 6 car marker with an R160 the c/r would be at a different place on the monitor than he would be on an R46/68/68A. That 30 inches makes a difference.Eventually the 6 car markers will have to be moved 30 inches forward. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:07:02 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 06:45:42 2021. Edit: Naturally it should read at the end of the first paragraph ".....R46 pairs to have the G running as 6 car R46's". |
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Posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 07:16:23 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 12 22:27:50 2021. Comfy ride? Have you been on an R46 lately? They run like crap. They may have been the "Cadillac" of subway cars but they are a 45 year old beat up Cadillac held together with duct tape.And whenever I ride the Q train I always am checking the signs. A good 50% are either wrong or not working. And the R68s don't have 96th/2nd on them. Why put cars on the one line they don't have signs for? The maintenance is clearly not being done on these old cars. And no, the average rider would not prefer it. People like sterile, polished, clean cars, not the ones with 40 years of crud. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 13 07:48:18 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 07:16:23 2021. When the millenials see woodgrain and formica, they probably say "eww, so dated" like an HGTV show of a kitchen lacking granite countertops and stainless appliances, and of course "open concept". So they probably like bowling alley seats in NTT cars too. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 13 08:13:32 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 07:16:23 2021. The ones I rode on the A over the summer were just fine |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 13 09:36:02 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:09:27 2021. Why should there be a 1.5 ft difference between 4 X 75 footers and 5 X 60 footers? The difference is so minuscule that if the TWU were to try and protest they would be laughed out of court. Not only that but the distance between the C/R position and the "long" end of a train on the Flushing Line exceeds that by a few ft anyhow so based on past practice, the union would lose.Wording is wording thats why... TA does the exact same thing when it comes to contract stipulation regarding lots of things so why would this be any different? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 13 09:38:10 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021. That's true but on curved stations with the t/o stopping at the 6 car marker with an R160 the c/r would be at a different place on the monitor than he would be on an R46/68/68A. That 30 inches makes a difference.Bill exactly.. They have a court date today regarding this so lets see how it goes.. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed Oct 13 12:43:01 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021. I wonder how many stations have stand alone 6 car markers?The few that I remember seeing (I forget the stations though) had the 8 car marker with the 6 car marker under it). |
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Posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 13:03:15 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 13 08:13:32 2021. I've read here that the ones on the A are better maintained. I haven't been on the A since the R42 retirement. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Oct 13 14:38:00 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 13:03:15 2021. Yeah, the R-46's are better on the "A" and "C". Kudos and credit to the shop forces at 207th and Pitkin, who know what they are dealing with in terms of maintaining any such older cars out there.-William A. Padron ["Wash. Hts.-8th Av. Exp."] |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 16:11:27 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021. There are a number of lines where 600 ft trains composed of both 8 X 75 footers and 10 X 60 footers have operated for years and there are no problems. |
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Posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 17:57:59 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Oct 13 14:38:00 2021. I get the sense that CI is just letting them fall apart, or doing the minimum to keep them running. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Oct 13 19:44:34 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 17:57:59 2021. Agreed. It's funny as the R68/68A assigned to CI seem to be doing just fine.I will say the R68As are a little on the loud side for whatever reason. They was much quieter in the 2000s. 68A still my favorite of three, they was so pleasant to ride on the Q during my high school years (06 until whenever they put R160s on the Q) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 14 04:36:18 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 13 09:38:10 2021. How did it go? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 14 04:47:18 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021. that's good to know.Helps the Union argument too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 14 04:47:18 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:00:40 2021. that's good to know.Helps the Union argument too. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 14 10:08:02 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 14 04:36:18 2021. I just shot Eric a Text waiting for a response... |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Oct 14 10:11:13 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. With the R211 order (and eventually the rest of the R179 (with the bugs and Kinks worked out), is the plan to eventually have enough cars to run longer consists on the C and G? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Oct 14 10:53:41 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by gbs on Tue Oct 12 05:59:29 2021. Excellent post, Id also add an extension to Queens Plaza to that list for the Broadway line (R) train connection as well as some kind of OOS transfer between Fulton Street and Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center being implemented. |
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Transportation Hub, that is great news, IND Crosstown G Line getting R160 New Tech trains. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 14 11:59:11 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. At least it seems like the best news Ive heard of in a long time. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 14 12:19:36 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 14 04:36:18 2021. Hearing rescheduled for the 26th..Typical TA Ploy... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Oct 14 13:24:30 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. Took a detour to HP this morning instead of going back to Brooklyn to catch a ride on one, hopefully they update the FIND Screens/Announcements to include the very walkable LIRR connection at Fulton Street soon. The walk from HP to Van Alst wasn't too bad either now that I think about it... :-) |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Oct 14 14:42:06 2021, in response to IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Oct 11 16:07:46 2021. As a regular rider of the GG, I mean G, Crosstown, the introduction of the five car trainsets of R-160's are welcome. The R68's were nice n all, but limiting the trains to four car sets made for some pretty crowded rides.Much better. For now anyway. This was on the list of G line improvements for a while, interrupted by the pandemic. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 14 15:01:59 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Oct 14 13:24:30 2021. 6 out of 13 trains are R160's today as per a report I received. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 14 15:04:57 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Oct 14 14:42:06 2021. A 5 car R160 is 30 inches longer than a R car R46/68/68A. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 14 15:05:57 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 14 15:04:57 2021. Correction: 4 car, not R car. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 14 16:48:09 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 14 15:04:57 2021. Why and how? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 14 16:49:28 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Oct 14 14:42:06 2021. 4 X 75 ft cars is the same length as 5 X 60 ft cars so no increase in capacity. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Oct 14 16:56:25 2021, in response to Re: IND Crosstown (G) Line Gets R160 New Tech Trains Good News For (G) Train Riders, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 14 16:49:28 2021. I definitely saw a difference when riding the R160 on the G this week vs the R68's last week.There's also more doors per side (20 vs 16), so dwell times may be reduced. |
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