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[PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021

These two photos are of the same R-32 train, this one seen here at Hammel's Wye. The front signs are covered by a paper sign but in an attempt to zoom in and read it, it was illegible. These photos are copy slides that aren't superior to the originals. There is a Christmas wreath hung on the chains much like on the Holiday Train.
So what is this special run ? Do you know Larry Red Bird ? I speculate this is December of 1965.

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Near Broad Channel minus the Christmas wreath.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Oct 11 18:52:40 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.



Bill: I don't have any specific information on this. It does look like some kind of a fantrip.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 19:33:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Oct 11 18:52:40 2021.

Thanks, maybe William Padron may know something.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:17:58 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.

I do recall that just before the R-32s were delivered, the rumors were that they were supposed to go to the IND Queens lines of course that didnít happen but I do recall that post Chrystie a couple of occasions where a B train was sent through to 207 St to cover a delay in A service and ended up going S/B in A service most likely to Far Rock.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:34:49 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 19:33:00 2021.

Same slide on the nycsubway.org website, but only with this description...

Country: United States
City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IND Rockaway Line
Location: Hammels Wye
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964)
Collection of: David Pirmann
Date: 5/14/1966




-William A. Padron
["Wye? Because!"]


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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:45:42 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:17:58 2021.

Yeah, like this one...

Country: United States
City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IND Fulton Street Line
Location: 80th Street-Hudson Street
Route: A
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964) 3394
Photo by: Doug Grotjahn
Collection of: Joe Testagrose
Date: 9/22/1969




-William A. Padron
["Budd"]


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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 12 06:31:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:34:49 2021.

May 14, 1966 ?

Shouldn't there be foliage on the trees ?

Back to square one.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:58:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 12 01:17:58 2021.

The TA wanted the Triplexes off the tracks ASAP, so no Queens IND.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 08:16:49 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 12 06:31:24 2021.

It looks like there might be baby leaves on the trees. But a lit up wreath ?

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 12 08:28:13 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 08:16:49 2021.

The man on street looks dressed for winter. Did you see him?

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 08:43:08 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 12 06:31:24 2021.

It should be noted that not all images on the nycsubway.org website have accurate locations and dates. With all due respect, the webmaster has to work and deal with whatever is on hand.

The May 14, 1966 date could be what was on the slide mount or print he had in his possession. And so it goes...

-William A. Padron
["Wye? I don't know, I thought ask."]



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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 09:17:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 12 08:28:13 2021.

Yes I did. May 14 can be a cool day though.
Iíve seen this photo before because itís in Rockaway. I never noticed the wreath until now.
Almost exactly 10 years before I was born by the way

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 09:21:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 08:43:08 2021.

May 14, 1966 was a Saturday so it is possible thatís the correct date. It seems like many of the photographs were taken on the weekends.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:02:25 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:34:49 2021.

Wye is in left field. Because is in center.:)

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:03:20 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.

I'll bet they streaked down that straightaway past the bridge.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:05:20 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:45:42 2021.

I caught an R-32 A once at 14th St. on a Saturday afternoon in the spring of '69 or thereabouts. Back then it was very rare to see them there. But since the AA was mostly R-32s, it was easy to borrow a set if the need arose.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:06:21 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:58:55 2021.

The R-32s were being delivered so rapidly that they needed to make room for them. So the Triplexes became sacrificial lambs.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 11:07:53 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Oct 12 05:45:42 2021.

That car had some tagging on it.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 11:17:42 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:06:21 2021.

Some of the R1's by 1966 were falling apart. They should have gone first.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 11:18:25 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 11:05:20 2021.

AA got its equipment from the B and Coney Island.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Oct 12 11:56:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 09:21:55 2021.

Probably most of the photographers had jobs during the week.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Oct 12 12:20:32 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 12 06:31:24 2021.



Bill: I think that the date on this pictures is wrong. Judging by the foliage and the sunlight its looks like it was taken sometime in early November.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 12 13:33:34 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 09:17:36 2021.

True May can be chilly.



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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 14:04:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Oct 12 11:56:40 2021.

I would imagine so. Or they were in school.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 12 14:07:16 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.

Awesome!! Always love the R32s!!

Also like seeing modern-looking traffic signals and street lights from the 1960s as well!! The general look of those hasn't changed in ~60 years! (of course there've been some changes- but the overall look is the same)

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 12 18:00:32 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 12 14:07:16 2021.

I was surprised to see a triple stack of lights. I remember so many double stacks in Far Rockaway. I suppose B. 84 or so itís far enough.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 12 22:48:29 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 11:17:42 2021.

They were dropping like flies in Jamaica Yard.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 13 02:00:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:58:55 2021.

True, but since there had already been a history of R-1s and R-9s on the BMT in earlier years, the R-32s could have been assigned to the Queens IND and the R-1/9s reassigned to the BMT.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 13 07:04:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 12 06:58:55 2021.

Just a thought but I wonder if the reason was simply because of their weight.

Perhaps NYCTA engineers felt that over the long term the weight of the D Types would have an adverse effect on the structures....including the Sea Beach at Stillwell station.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 13 07:46:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Oct 12 12:20:32 2021.

Also, I grew up in Far Rockaway...most of the Peninsula didn't get three-phase traffic signals until the early '70s. In fact, there were still quite a few two-phase signals in the Rockaways as late as 1990. I don't think Rockaway Fwy. around the Wye had three-phase traffic lights as early as 1966.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by zac on Wed Oct 13 13:06:16 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 13 07:46:50 2021.

I remember Rockaway having two-phase signals long after they were gone from everywhere else. Also Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 13 14:29:46 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.

Nice

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Re: [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 13 14:29:46 2021, in response to [PHOTOS] Special R-32 Train In The Rockaways, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 11 16:06:09 2021.

Nice

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