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R-10's on the (N) ?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021

I can't find the SubChat post about this. Anyway, a good friend of mine e-mailed me this:


Saw the current thread on subchat about R10s and comments that they were never used on the N line. I know for a fact they were used there in a pinch when the N went to Continental Avenue in 1980. I was working a Nancy job (which is what we used to call the N) as a conductor and Continental gave us an R10 to take to Coney Island, as that is what came in on the stand. Beat up, multiple dead motors, wrong signs, the whole deal of a completely raggidy train. We left as an N and did the entire route to Stillwell, getting there almost 20 minutes late, looking forward got getting rid of this beast. Unfortunately, the lateness resulted in a furious dispatcher at Stillwell N (John Conaboy, good guy until you screwed up this railroad) informing us that since we were stupid enough to bring that thing to his terminal, that we would bring it back to Continental, in service... So yes, they did run on the Sea Beach. In addition to the above, for a while when R10s were on the B West End service, they would reroute over the Sea Beach as needed.


Fantasy R-10 not to be taken seriously. (Jan 15, 1990)
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 1 19:56:28 2021, in response to R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021.

Nice pic but what a doggone shame

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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021, in response to R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021.

I second that to that statement. As it was noted in the "Farewell to the R-10" fan trip brochure for the ERA excursion, as researched and authored by George Chaisson Jr. (widecab5)...

By May 1980, the R-10's were becoming noticeable on the N occasionally, no doubt as a spin-off from their GG rush hour service, and a few train sets were still hanging in on the A. An assignment list from July 30 has R-10's on the CC and GG (as usual, with a handful also on the A. They were no longer reported on the N, however.

I will say from my memory and recall, the R-10's were all over place in 1980 on the IND-BMT Division, on the "A", "D", "E", "F" and "GG". I rode them on all the lines mentioned, even on the "B" occasionally too. And then in late 1980-early 1981, some of them popped up on the JFK Express, Aqueduct Special, the "J" and "LL".

You can credit or blame the R-46 truck fiscao for the shifting of the R-10's being everywhere!

-William A. Padron
["a.c.f."]


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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 2 01:58:54 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021.

It’s not so much that the R-10s never ran on the N but that they were never officially assigned there only running on the rare occasions when a train was needed.

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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Aug 2 08:44:33 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021.

I think the only route I've never seen a pic of them on was the J (I know they were on the old 15), besides the 1976 Fan Trip.

But I will absolutely take your word they ran there :)

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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Aug 2 10:29:49 2021, in response to R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021.

Regarding the Stillwell dispatcher's remarks... Does that mean you and the M/M had an option to not bring this consist to Stillwell?

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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Aug 2 11:46:28 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021.

There were at least 2 sets of 10s running. On the West End B and M in 1986-87. 1 was pre-GOH and 1 was post. Mostly, we had horribly dilapidated Pre-GOH Slants on the B at the time.

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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Aug 2 12:20:35 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Aug 2 11:46:28 2021.

Nelson Sullivan has an excellent video of a trip from 34h Street to CI on a beat up Slant in 1987. I was surprised to learn that beat-up trains were so easy to find in 1987 (except for R16s/21s/22s/27s)

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 2 18:26:38 2021, in response to R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021.

Sea Beach Fred would love that numeral 4 up front.:)

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Posted by William A. Padron on Mon Aug 2 19:45:08 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Aug 2 11:46:28 2021.

The R-10's were basically relegated to the "C" and "H" during the period of 1986-1987 as you had stated, so that would be quite a rarity if any of them went outside of the assignment pool runs based out of Pitkin or Concourse Yard, including on the West End "B" and "M" routes.

Of course, they were on the "B" (West End) during the late 1960's and 1970's, but any R-10's that were assigned from Jamaica Yard had left there between April 28 and May 16, 1985, them being sent to Concourse and Pitkin.

During that time, it was basically 246 R-10's still in service, with 110 WH GOH'd units in separate trains, 126 GE and 10 WH non-GOH units on the active roster. According to the 1989 farewell fantrip brochure, during late March 1987 saw the beginning of the end of the non-GOH units, with the first three cars #3240, #3261 and #3317 removed from service on March 27, 1987. By October 31, 1988, that number dwindled down to a mere 43 cars from the non-GOH WH & GE units.

The green R-10 fantrip on Sunday, June 8, 1986 did operate on the Culver, West End and Myrtle Avenue routes, with possibly their only appearance ever on Myrtle. The final run of the non-GOH cars occurred on November 10, 1988.

[Source: "Farewell to the R-10 - October 29, 1989 - Electric Railroaders' Association", fantrip brochure.]

-William A. Padron
["(C) 8 Avenue Local"]


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Posted by randyo on Tue Aug 3 01:55:32 2021, in response to R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 1 19:40:43 2021.

Conaboy and I were both trainmasters in the early 1980s before he passed away shortly after responding to a smoke condition. My argument about being forced to take the same train back would have been that had I refused to take it, the T/D at Ctl would have charged me with insubordination.

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Posted by Dan on Tue Aug 3 09:37:35 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021.

During that same time period beat-up R10s appeared on the 'F' train. One morning to my horror a dilapidated R-10 pulled into 18th Avenue instead of the usual lovely R46. This was during the time when R46s were being pulled because of the cracked trucks crisis.

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Aug 3 10:54:05 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Dan on Tue Aug 3 09:37:35 2021.

Thanks, Dan

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Posted by Chicago44 on Tue Aug 3 12:30:21 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Aug 3 10:54:05 2021.

If you happen to have any pictures of the R10 that were on various lines back in the early 1980's that includes the JFK Express, please pst them, I would like to see them.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 3 14:46:32 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by randyo on Tue Aug 3 01:55:32 2021.

Thats my uncle


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Posted by randyo on Tue Aug 3 15:34:43 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 3 14:46:32 2021.

I first met john when I was a T/D working on a special operation at Tower A CIYd and he was the towerman.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 3 15:42:19 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by randyo on Tue Aug 3 15:34:43 2021.

His son was in the news recently

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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 18:13:15 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Chicago44 on Tue Aug 3 12:30:21 2021.

In the meantime, you can start your search here on this valued page...

www.nycsubway.org/R-10 (ACF, 1948)

-William A. Padron
["R-10"]


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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 3 19:00:19 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Dan on Tue Aug 3 09:37:35 2021.

One such train, headed by 3080, thundered and blazed out to 179th St. It took the Hillside Ave. express stretch in record time, leaving Sutphin Blvd. in the dust. People were wondering what that A train was doing out there.

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Posted by Pelham Exp on Tue Aug 3 19:00:30 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 3 15:42:19 2021.

Sean?

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 3 19:06:38 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Pelham Exp on Tue Aug 3 19:00:30 2021.

Yup

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 3 19:50:11 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Chicago44 on Tue Aug 3 12:30:21 2021.

Nycsubway.org has several.

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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 20:00:31 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 3 19:00:19 2021.

People were wondering what that A train was doing out there.

Same statement I heard when the R-10's were first assigned to the "GG" in the fall of 1977. One rider who came aboard on a southbound run at Woodhaven Boulevard, and look around to say as to what was the "A" train doing here.

On the flip side, during the R-46 truck fiscao, when I riding on an R-10 "F" train going up 6th Avenue, a rider, who was so used to having to ride those new 75-footers on the QBL (partially on the sidelines at the time), had commented as he got on board at 47th-50th that he thought that the R-10 train he was stepping into looked like it came out of mothballs.

And so it goes...

-William A. Padron
["Jamaica-179th St."]


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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 20:01:09 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 3 19:00:19 2021.

People were wondering what that A train was doing out there.

Same statement I heard when the R-10's were first assigned to the "GG" in the fall of 1977. One rider who came aboard on a southbound run at Woodhaven Boulevard, and look around to say as to what was the "A" train doing here.

On the flip side, during the R-46 truck fiscao, when I riding on an R-10 "F" train going up 6th Avenue, a rider, who was so used to having to ride those new 75-footers on the QBL (partially on the sidelines at the time), had commented as he got on board at 47th-50th that he thought that the R-10 train he was stepping into looked like it came out of mothballs.

And so it goes...

-William A. Padron
["Jamaica-179th St."]


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Posted by murray1575 on Wed Aug 4 01:12:54 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 20:00:31 2021.

They ran on the E as well. Those cars ran on the A for such a long time that many people came to associate them with that route for years after they were shifted to other lines when the A got new R44 cars in the 1970s. There were a couple of incidents with those cars soon after delivery but the disruption wasn't nearly as bad as with the R46 defective trucks which also caused some R16 cars to be taken out of storage and put back on the road. Some of them were in worse condition than the R10s.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 4 03:57:06 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 20:00:31 2021.

And so it goes...

Same happened on the 6 line in 2003.

By then the line was all new 142's.

Red birds ran on the 4 and 5 lines.

But the 6 had to borrow one, just one train, a red bird, from the 5 line, every single day.

Since 6 line customers were so used to new trains, they were confused by the presence of a red bird on their line and would hold the doors, check signs, ask the crew.......before getting on. This little bit of confusion usually caused the train to lose time and be late.


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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 4 18:50:56 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by murray1575 on Wed Aug 4 01:12:54 2021.

The R-10s will be forever associated with the A. They were tailor-made for that line. The smartest move ever made by the BoT was to assign them to that line.

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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Aug 4 22:46:08 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 3 19:00:19 2021.

I remember the madness well. I was already shccked that an R-46 consist showed up on the S/B CC at Tremont Ave, then shortly after the S/B D arrived on the express track which was a R-44 consist. While riding to midtown... If I hadn't seen enough shockers for that morning.... While at 7th Ave... An R-10 consist on the E suddenly thundered into the station.

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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 5 01:51:01 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Aug 3 18:13:15 2021.

The blue/white description for the cars is wrong. It was not navy blue but a much lighter sort of turquoise.

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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Aug 5 12:42:07 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 4 03:57:06 2021.

I saw the same thing on an R32 B train in early 2010. I rode from 167th to 59th -Columbus Circle. People on the platform didn't know what to do. So I said to a few souls: "It looks like a C, but it's a B!"

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Posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 5 14:45:50 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 4 18:50:56 2021.

Why not the D ? Same fast CPW dash, and then in the early 1950's, to Coney Island, and serving 3 boroughs.

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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 5 15:41:10 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 4 18:50:56 2021.

Before I knew about contract numbers, I referred to the R-10 as "Air Vents on the A" 🙂 (drawing from my IRT experience, where the R-12s and R-14s were referred to by me as "Air Vents". Back then, they were indeed almost all on the A, with a set that turned up on the B during rush hours, and in the later days before I left NYC (August 1976) on the CC once that line lost its Arnines)


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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Aug 5 16:29:53 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Joe V on Thu Aug 5 14:45:50 2021.

The A is the king. That’s why.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 5 16:47:28 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 4 18:50:56 2021.

Too bad their little bothers R12-14 can't be "forever" associated with the Flushing Line where they ran for about 15 years.

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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Aug 5 16:48:57 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Aug 5 16:29:53 2021.

The BoT decided as a final solution, after deciding as to where they would go on their initial route assignments (and how many cars were needed in such as a case), and when realizing the Pitkin Avenue extension was about to open in the future (it did in late November 1948), was to send all the new R-10's out first to the "A", and make it the "showcase" line of the system.

They basically managed to be on the "A", plus the "AA" and "BB" (the Washington Heights-based routes) within their first sis years or so in operation, and then, their first foray into the BMT came in November 1954 when 30 of them (GE cars #3320-3349) went over to the Eastern Division.

-William A. Padron
["Wash.Hts.-8th Av.Exp."]


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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Aug 5 16:52:00 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 5 16:47:28 2021.

The R-33/36's, originally in that blue-white "World's Fair" scheme, and finishing their careers as "Redbirds", all on the #7 route, take that association very easily.

-William A. Padron
["111th St.-Corona"]


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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 5 17:09:59 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 1 20:31:11 2021.

I remember most of that.
During that time,the LL received most of those R10 cars.. along with the R16.
The J received All the R16 available from the south and CC line..as well as the Rockaway Park storage units.

The R10 cars didn't stick around too long... being replaced with R40s R27 R30 R32, even some R38s.
The Eastern Division was a hodgepodge of everything that could make service.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:34:05 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Thu Aug 5 16:48:57 2021.

But they still ruled the Abbott with an iron fist for 29 years.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:36:24 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Aug 5 12:42:07 2021.

I remember when the B was all R-32. They had those Bs pasted over the original BB signs on their front and side route curtains.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:38:56 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Aug 5 17:09:59 2021.

The Three Stooges Division got no respect.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:41:25 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by WayneJay on Wed Aug 4 22:46:08 2021.

"Madness, madness, everywhere madness."

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Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Aug 5 23:01:11 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:34:05 2021.

And they still managed to have a few R-10 sets here and there on the "A" well into the early 1980's. Also, a few rush hour put-ins from Concourse Yard had some of the R-10's, including those green-painted GOH units, in "A" service between 125th Street and Euclid Avenue during the Williamsburg Bridge shutdown of 1988.

-William A. Padron
["Fulton-Euclid Av."]


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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 6 00:21:51 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 5 19:36:24 2021.

Yup.
The south was totally R32, with cars split between the B/D/N..with some doing stints on the QB/QJ/M/F lines when needed

The R38S/40/40m were the cars that broke up the 32 domain.
The 40s basically became the F train.
The 38s took over N service..
The D became the home of the R32.
Later,the 44 pushed the 32s back to Broadway.
The 38 went to the West End.
40s ran wherever they were needed..with the A line calling .
The A LINE was covered with R40s..the D had the R40m/42 mixed mess... while Queens had the 46s.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 6 02:23:53 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 6 00:21:51 2021.

How were they able to get the R-38's to cover so much ground?

Must have been a lot of 6 car trains I'm guessing.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 6 10:29:24 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by randyo on Thu Aug 5 01:51:01 2021.

Teal.

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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 6 10:32:07 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by WayneJay on Wed Aug 4 22:46:08 2021.

Reminds me of that day in 1997 when they swapped fleets on the B and Q. Q was all slants overnight, B was R68.

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Posted by CJ on Fri Aug 6 10:46:54 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Mon Aug 2 19:45:08 2021.

I hope I'm not asking too much, but do you have the numbers for those GE R10s that were left by 1985? I also wonder if the GOH R38s and the GE R27s are what replaced those non overhauled R10s between 1987-1988.

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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Aug 6 12:27:48 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by CJ on Fri Aug 6 10:46:54 2021.

Here we go, and everyone viewing this, take a deep breath after you finishing reading this...

As of February 14, 1986...

W.H. cars, GOH'd (green-painted) =
2951, 2955, 2956, 2957, 2958, 2959, 2960, 2961, 2962, 2966, 2967, 2968, 2969, 2971, 2973, 2974, 3001, 3003, 3005, 3008, 3011, 3013, 3016, 3018, 3021, 3022, 3023, 3025, 3026, 3027, 3029, 3030, 3031, 3033, 3035, 3036, 3037, 3038, 3040 3043, 3044, 3045, 3047, 3048, 3101, 3107, 3110, 3114, 3116, 3117, 3118, 3121, 3123, 3125, 3126, 3128, 3130, 3133, 3136, 3137, 3138, 3139, 3141, 3142, 3143, 3144, 3145, 3146, 3149, 3150, 3153, 3154, 3157, 3158, 3159, 3161, 3164, 3166, 3168, 3169, 3170, 3173, 3176, 3177, 3181, 3182, 3184, 3185, 3186, 3187, 3191, 3193, 3194, 3197, 3198, 3199, 3201, 3203, 3204, 3205, 3206, 3208, 3209, 3212, 3215, 3216, 3219, 3220, 3221 and 3224.

Notes = Those R-10 cars that had its side number plates lowered from the top of the roofline a few inches down are in BOLD ITALICS.

W.H. cars, non-GOH'd =
2965, 3009, 3010, 3039, 3046, 3152, 3188, 3189, 3190, 3210, 3223.

Note = This car had been converted as a R.C.I. Yard Office Car in 1984, as highlighted in BOLD ITALICS UNDERLINED.

G.E. cars =
2975, 2976, 2977, 2978, 2981, 2982, 2983, 2985, 2986, 2987, 2988, 2989, 2990, 2991, 2992, 2993, 2994, 2995, 2998; 3050, 3053, 3054, 3057, 3058, 3059, 3060, 3061, 3063, 3064, 3065, 3066, 3068, 3069, 3073, 3076, 3077, 3079, 3080, 3081, 3082, 3084, 3085, 3087, 3089, 3090, 3092, 3093, 3094, 3096, 3097, 3098, 3099; 3225, 3231, 3233, 3234, 3239, 3240, 3242, 3243, 3239, 3240, 3242, 3243, 3244, 3245, 3246, 3247, 3248, 3249, 3251, 3252, 3254, 3256, 3257, 3258, 3260, 3261, 3262, 3263, 3264, 3265, 3267, 3268, 3269, 3270, 3271, 3273, 3278, 3279, 3280, 3283, 3284, 3285, 3286, 3287, 3288, 3290, 3292, 3293, 3295, 3296, 3299, 3301, 3302, 3303, 3304, 3305, 3306, 3307, 3308, 3309, 3310, 3315, 3316, 3317, 3320, 3322, 3324, 3325, 3326, 3327, 3328, 3329, 3330, 3331, 3332, 3334, 3335, 3336, 3337, 3341, 3343, 3345, 3349.

Note: Cars 2985, 3054, 3059, 3082, 3087, 3092, 3240, 3287, 3315, 3316, 3324 and 3343 were at times in work service or non-revenue usage, with those cars in BOLD reportedly painted in yellow. Cars #3092 and #3324 were repainted back to MTA silver-blue afterward before going back into service.

Original R-10 air compressors = WABCO A-1 units - 3YC type compressors [some listings had it as 2CY types].
GOH'd R-10 compressors = New York Air Brake (NYAB) rotary screw type.

Finally, the electrical motor and controls originally distributed in the R-10 fleet based on the car numbers assigned were as follows:

2950-2974, 3000-3049 and 3100-3224 with W.H. motors and controls; 2975-2999, 3050-3099 and 3225-3349 with G.E. motors and controls.

Cars 2950-2999 were formerly 1803-1852 between 1948 and 1970.

[Source: New York Division Electric Railroaders' Association Bulletin; March 1986, June 1986 and August 1986 issues; Information complied and credited to William A. Padron as the author].

-William A. Padron
["Mr. R-10"]


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Posted by CJ on Fri Aug 6 13:14:18 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Aug 6 12:27:48 2021.

Thank you so much for posting this.

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 6 13:57:08 2021, in response to Re: R-10's on the (N) ?, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Aug 6 12:27:48 2021.

This is why you are a/k/a Mr. R10

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