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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Apr 17 08:38:31 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Apr 16 14:52:26 2021. I always liked the accessibility of the R/10 "open/close lever" of the roof vents during the freezing winter months.I'd close them myself if I encountered an excessively cold car on either Far Rock or Rock Park train. The R/1-9 cars seemed to have better heat. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 09:09:46 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 05:29:12 2021. You might say that there was a short period of inspiration and quick turnaround that led into the R-15 design, right after the R-11 and R-14 fleets were created and drafted.Perhaps the tests using those axiflow fans and false ceiling seen inside R-1 car #103 may have been an inspiration to do something with the R-15 fleet. The roof design would had to been changed for the 100 car order to go through and later delivered through 1950, and so it became the turtle back dome one indeed, instead of the ogee roof as before. The new axiflow fans, of course larger and better than the R-10/12/14 family design fleet, were also used on Pittsburgh Railways' PCC-type street cars (units #1700 to #1799), when they were introduced there in the late 1940's. The sealed wide windows on those PCC's were a bit of a different matter (i.e. they could not be opened though). However, if you noticed, the dual porthole side door windows employed on the R-11 and R-15 fleets would not be repeated on the R-16 and R-17 contracts, but the solo porthole window on the storm door was retained though. -William A. Padron ["6239"] |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by zac on Sat Apr 17 09:55:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 09:09:46 2021. The R16/R17 design was carried forward all the way through the R38s with minor changes on each contract, and the last example of that design was only retired last year! |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 10:14:54 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 16 18:38:02 2021. Was it true that there wasn't enough money to build it with three tracks along its entire length? |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 17 11:33:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Avid Reader on Sat Apr 17 08:38:31 2021. "I'd close them myself if I encountered an excessively cold car on either Far Rock or Rock Park train."Hope the weren't stuck "open" on this train!  |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 17 13:46:30 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 10:14:54 2021. No! The newspaper articles about the Jamaica el opening only stated that there was provision for a third track. Had there been plans for an express track, back then, there would have been at least one or two express stations built, like Wyckoff Ave on the "M". Yes, I'm aware that there had been a third track on the Myrtle el, north of Broadway! My guess is that the BRT did not want to build an overhead express track between Crescent St and the "ramp to nowhere", just west of Alabama Ave. So, the City just built the Jamaica el as we remember it. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 17 17:56:05 2021, in response to [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Thu Apr 15 06:16:57 2021. Hey Bill,I can't find your R-10 post where you stated some work motor R-10's were painted yellow and listed their car numbers. Can you locate it for me ? I may have a photo related to the subject. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 17 17:59:26 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 17 17:56:05 2021. I found it !Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 18:05:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Apr 17 17:56:05 2021. Hey, Bill!I said that were a group of R-10's that were painted yellow, so as that were briefly in work service. I believe there were about up to six of them, and I remember seeing the scheme on #3087, #3092, #3315 and #3324. Car #2985 was also painted I believe in yellow. I trying to remember the #3200-series unit (#3293?), but I would look that one up later stashed in my archives. I know that #3324 was repainted back into the MTA silver/blue paint scheme, and #3087 & #3315 were stationed at ENY Yard, but that pair was later sent to Cross Harbor for shipping towards scrapping. -William A. Padron ["a.c.f."] |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Apr 17 18:53:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Avid Reader on Sat Apr 17 08:38:31 2021. I was at least once on a train of R1/9 cars in mid-summer on which the heat could not be turned off. It certainly worked well then! |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:00:19 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 05:29:12 2021. For some reason, the R32 price per car has always been kept inside my head: $114,700.Even though these are far from being my favorite subway car, and no doubt it cost more to GOH them, we certainly got our money's worth out of them. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:00:44 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 05:29:12 2021. For some reason, the R32 price per car has always been kept inside my head: $114,700.Even though these are far from being my favorite subway car, and no doubt it cost more to GOH them, we certainly got our money's worth out of them. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 20:15:42 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by murray1575 on Sat Apr 17 18:53:40 2021. It wasn't R-6-2 1277 by any chance, was it? Our own Wayne aka Mr. Slant R-40 had a miserable experience aboard that car on September 11, 1973. It was as hot as an oven inside 1277 that day. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 20:16:19 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:00:19 2021. Budd really outdid themselves with the R-32s. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 20:18:49 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:00:44 2021. Good estimate. If this was "The Price Is Right", you did not go over the price per car.The R-32's were at $114,951.08 (In service April 1965-October 1965) The R-32A's were at $114,857.15 e(In service September 1964-April 1965) Source: MTA NYC Transit - Passenger Car Data - 1947-1976 - New Car Engineering Department book] Yeah, I agree that the fleet got the most bang out of the bucks buying them. -William A. Padron ["Showcase"] |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 17 20:25:49 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:00:19 2021. what is your favorite subway car?I'll guess R-10 Least favorite R-16 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 17 20:29:25 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Apr 17 20:18:49 2021. yeah, R-32 is exceptional.Not my favorite but it's perhaps the GOAT of subway cars. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:52:29 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 17 20:25:49 2021. Pre GOH: R27/30. R30 Redbirds were good after rebuild.Post GOH: R40, R38. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 17 21:05:59 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 17 20:52:29 2021. thanks |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 22:29:42 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 17 20:29:25 2021. I liked them right from the start. Their blue doors and green backlit side destination signs did it for me. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 01:25:29 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Apr 17 13:46:30 2021. Bway towards Wyckoff is railroad SOUTH!!!!!!!! |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 18 15:55:21 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 01:25:29 2021. I know that you are obsessed with this 'official" railroad directionthing, Randy. But, I prefer real directions. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Apr 18 16:23:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 20:16:19 2021. The car bodies were built better than anything that St. Louis built afterwards. The Red Lion plant where they were built no longer exists as it was demolished years ago. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Apr 18 16:30:09 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 17 20:15:42 2021. I can't remember the details as it was too long ago. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Apr 18 17:33:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by murray1575 on Sun Apr 18 16:23:45 2021. The Red Lion plant where they were built no longer exists as it was demolished years ago.When I worked for the Budd Company Trailer Division, they gave us a tour of the Budd Red Lion Plant. Very enjoyable. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Apr 18 19:37:08 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 18 15:55:21 2021. ME TOO! |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:37:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 18 15:55:21 2021. The problem is that the “real” direction for the M going toward Ctl is north since Ctl is the north terminal for all the Qns Blvd line as well as being physically north on 6th Ave. The NYCTA rule which was what I was taught when I started there in 1966 is any route that passes through Bkln enroute to Manhattan regardless of its point of origin is northbound. The track numbers bear this out also since even numbered tks are northbound and odd numbered tks are southbound. The A line lvg Lefferts going towards downtown Bkln like the Jamaica and Myrtle lines is also physically south but nobody would dare call an A or C train going to Manhattan “southbound.” If you are going to be a railroad hobbyist and/or transit historian, then you and any other person who posts here would be well advised to acquaint yourself with proper railroad and transit terminology. If yo think about it, a number of people whopost on this forum are either active or retired railroad and transit people who know what the facts are. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:44:44 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by murray1575 on Sun Apr 18 16:23:45 2021. One of the problems is that the MTA tends to give the car manufacturers a bit too much leeway when it comes to car specifications. While it is contrary to specify the specific manufacturer of certain components under most circumstances certain manufacturers can be given the leg up by tightening certain specifications. If for example, the TA specified that the metal used in the car body be entirely stainless steel, then the R-38s would have been able to last as long as the R-32s instead of being subjected to body rot caused by 2 different types of metal reacting with each other. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 18 20:54:47 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 16 11:12:11 2021. But those express tracks up to Euclid don't connect to the center track west of Euclid. Whereas, in the other scenario, it would have been possible to run peak express trains from Rockaway Ave all the way to Atlantic, and continue on their own express track(s) up to Hoyt. Not only that, they could also run thru service via the Broadway (Brooklyn) line, which would have been equal to or faster to midtown than even the express along Fulton. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 18 21:20:26 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:44:44 2021. If for example, the TA specified that the metal used in the car body be entirely stainless steel, then the R-38s would have been able to last as long as the R-32s instead of being subjected to body rot caused by 2 different types of metal reacting with each other.Wasn't the R-32 contract originally for LAHT steel and didn't Budd successfully petition the TA to substitute stainless at no additional cost? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 21:44:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 18 21:20:26 2021. I haven’t seen the specs for the R-32s, however I have seen an artist’s rendering of an LAHT R-38 that was dis[played in the event that the TA didn’t want any more stainless steel cars. The rending I saw was basically a 60 ft long R-36 in the R-36 paint scheme but with a sculpted bonnet like the one the R-38s actually came with. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 18 21:46:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:37:45 2021. Sometimes there is a news report about a subway incident and they say "northbound" or "southbound" just repeating the language of the workers. The media is lame.They should say "Manhattan-bound" or whatever, but I hear less of that these days even though it's how they should communicate stories. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 18 21:46:58 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:37:45 2021. Sometimes there is a news report about a subway incident and they say "northbound" or "southbound" just repeating the language of the workers. The media is lame.They should say "Manhattan-bound" or whatever, but I hear less of that these days even though it's how they should communicate stories. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 18 21:46:59 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 20:37:45 2021. Sometimes there is a news report about a subway incident and they say "northbound" or "southbound" just repeating the language of the workers. The media is lame.They should say "Manhattan-bound" or whatever, but I hear less of that these days even though it's how they should communicate stories. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Apr 19 03:48:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Apr 18 21:20:26 2021. If for example, the TA specified that the metal used in the car body be entirely stainless steel, then the R-38s would have been able to last as long as the R-32s instead of being subjected to body rot caused by 2 different types of metal reacting with each other.Semi-trailers have that problem, the crossmembers are steel, the side bottom rails are aluminum. We use to paint the ends of the crossmember clips with a zinc chromate paint to ward off galvanic corrosion. Later on, they just covered the entire inside of the bottom rail with mylar tape, that worked just as well and eliminated the need to Paint the crossmember clips. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 19 15:16:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 18 21:46:58 2021. The problem is that most subway lines like the D F and M are Manhattan bound in both directions so if the problem is in Manhattan how do you distinguish the direction. In the unique case of the M you can’t even say Queens bound since the M is Queens bound in both directions. In certain unique cases, you have to ben terminal specific like Metropolitan Av bound or Continental Ave bound. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 19 23:28:46 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sun Apr 18 21:44:50 2021. I think that rendition was in one of Newkirk's calendars |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 08:56:03 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Apr 19 03:48:36 2021. The Peletier effect was discovered in the 1820's. I guess car builders, rail operators, etc. did not have time to keep current on the latest discoveries. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 20 10:57:34 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 16 11:12:11 2021. Why don't they just bring back the normal hours "E" train to the Rockaways and terminate the "C" at WTC, like it should be? |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 20 11:21:49 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 20 10:57:34 2021. Why is that like it should be ? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 20 11:47:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 20 11:21:49 2021. The "E" going through the Rockaways, prior to 1976, were putting up 36 miles each way (with that runabout route), and afterward, the "CC" or "C" was going for up to 33 miles each trip. Regardless, these were prone to delays, along with the "A", going through the merges at Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Canal Street and even at 42nd Street-8th Avenue.Too much all around back then. -William A. Padron ["Rockaway Park"] |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Apr 20 12:23:50 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 19 23:28:46 2021. 
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 20 14:00:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 20 11:47:02 2021. If the "C" went to WTC and the "E" to the Rockaways, it would eliminate unnecessary switching north of Chambers St, wouldn't it? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Apr 20 16:44:23 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 20 14:00:00 2021. It would, but it would also require Es to run through to Bkln till almost midnight as well as weekends in order to maintain the same level of service as present. Of course during midnight hours the Es would run to WTC as at present. With the current service pattern the service is more consistent with the E running to WTC 24/7 and the C running to Bkln during its hours of operation. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 21 01:55:28 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Elkeeper on Tue Apr 20 14:00:00 2021. The E in non-Covid times runs 10 car trains every 4 minutes. I don't think a Fulton Street Local requires that. Then try to shoehorn them single file between Hoyt and Chambers with the regular A and Rock Park specials. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Apr 21 08:48:17 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by William A. Padron on Fri Apr 16 11:29:11 2021. Well, I guess they said Lefferts "Avenue" because that was till how people knew it. But changing the name of the station immediately upon transfer to the IND was no problem because once the train went there, even on Day 1, people would SEE that it was the same location as before.But announcing the name change in advance may have confused some people. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 21 15:34:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Thu Apr 15 16:39:30 2021. Prior to the Dual Contracts rebuilding, the center storage track with the R-10's on it was the original City Line bound (EB) track. The EB local track to Hinsdale from Atlantic, after the rebuilding, was the former service track for the old Alabama Ave yard. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 22 01:12:57 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Apr 21 08:48:17 2021. One of the things I noticed for many years after the IND started going to Lefferts was that the original enameled signs over the Lefferts bound stairways at Euclid and Grant seem to have originally read “Lefferts Ave” bur when the line opened, stickers reading “Blvd” had been placed over the word “Ave.” It stood out because the font was very different from the rest of the sign. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Apr 22 01:52:36 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by randyo on Sat Apr 17 02:29:08 2021. What does the "C" in AMCE stand for?I know that the other initials are A for Automatic; M for Motor; E for Electric. |
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Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 22 17:17:14 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-10 on the BMT Fulton El = April 15, 1956., posted by Express Rider on Thu Apr 22 01:52:36 2021. “C stands for control valve which basically does the work of the old triple valve and the universal valves found on AMUE equipment. |
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