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Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 14:19:02 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 8 23:48:12 2020. Be viewed like the R10.The R27/30 were used, abused, and scrapped prematurely. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 14:40:08 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 19:32:54 2020. "Normal service" would be hard pressed with out the 32s.These aren't anything like normal times,so NORMAL SERVICE IS IMPOSSIBLE to operate.🙄 How ever, the MTA is providing services for those whom need it most...not for joy riding. If all the non Full cab trains are not needed, then they are not needed. The illness is Real. And it's affecting more front line people than PRESIDENT TRUMP can lie about. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Apr 9 15:08:52 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:28:33 2020. The other 60FT SMEEs ran smoother, no bucking, reliable A/C, brakes released fairly quickly, etc. R38/R40/42s >>> the R32s IMO. Prior to posting on railfan message boards I never saw the R32 as this oh so great car compared to other trains in the fleet at the time, Don't get me wrong I enjoyed riding them on the C, E and F lines back then but I didn't put the cars on a pedestal. |
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Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Apr 9 15:10:04 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Apr 8 18:32:06 2020. R68A are the last cars older than me. |
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Posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:15:58 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 8 14:35:06 2020. They can run on the A. The R179s on the J have fewer to no problems than the ones on the A and C. |
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Re: UPDATE - Was - *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service |
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Posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:17:09 2020, in response to Re: UPDATE - Was - *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 8 16:27:22 2020. Hopefully, considering work on everything is slowing down because of the pandemic. |
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Posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:17:56 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 14:40:08 2020. It even infected British Trump! |
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Posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:18:48 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:28:33 2020. Sadly structural issues kept plaguing the newer cars, especially the R38s, R40s, and R44s.I did hear that R42s have nicer controls than the R32s tho. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 15:45:11 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Apr 9 15:08:52 2020. Exactly. Not great to operate at all. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 15:54:26 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:15:58 2020. Eastern Division was always an easier life for lousy equipment. Maybe that's why the R179 does better there. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 15:55:20 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:17:56 2020. Too bad he has a baby on the way |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:16:52 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 15:54:26 2020. Which is a good reason to place them ALL over to the East.The A can keep its 118 179s since they are built to 5 car specs just for the A line. The C has just under 100 cars, and they make the majority of service with a few R46 sets helping out. Trade up for All R46.. |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Apr 9 16:18:47 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Apr 8 15:34:51 2020. Lion, did you serve on the Kitty Hawk? |
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Posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 16:23:28 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 15:54:26 2020. And the R32, seemingly lmao. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:24:38 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 15:17:56 2020. Yup.That man is using a ventilator as we speak. Trump "knows something about some things",(as he said),so pushing his personal brand of "will it work? Who knows, but what do you have to loose" catch all of the day Might help, or kill the man. Whatever.. either way,his hands are clean. Right? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:27:34 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by murray1575 on Thu Apr 9 06:33:06 2020. Also added much more weight to the cars with AC units...etc.Undercar , door seals..had cracks. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 16:30:17 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:24:38 2020. Wrong again, my Nubian brother. He was never on a respirator as he was only in ICU as a precaution. In fact, he's been released from ICU as of several hours ago and continues to recover. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 16:35:01 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by murray1575 on Thu Apr 9 06:33:06 2020. But at the same time, they increased the horsepower of each car by 15% during GOH, making them much zippier. I do agree that losing the marker lights made them far less attractive. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:48:04 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 16:35:01 2020. 100 to 115hp? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 16:53:57 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:24:38 2020. He is getting some sort of oxygen treatment, but that is way short of a ventilator device. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 16:55:30 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by MTA T on Thu Apr 9 16:23:28 2020. Well, that's why I said put them there and outside most of their run to keep the AC working. IOW, the R32's need a ventilator. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 16:56:18 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:16:52 2020. The C normally has about 18 train sets. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 9 17:11:57 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 14:19:02 2020. Being too heavy to have A/C installed sealed their fate. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:34:26 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 11:28:33 2020. I wholeheartedly disagree. In 1969/70 I was a vacation relief M/M and had a chance to operate everything that ran on the NYCTS from the Qs up to the R-42s and even the Lo-Vs. While I preferred the prewar equipment over the newer rolling stock I found the R-32s to be the best accelerating and braking of all the SMEEs and definitely smoother and superior to anything that came later from the 38s up to the 42s. The R-38s were definitely the worst braking of the newer cars and especially difficult to graduate to a final smooth stop. The cars would either roll too far or else make a hard stop with even the slightest movement of the brake valve. One of theM/M breaking me in on them described them as having a "10 foot roll." |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 17:39:40 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 14:19:02 2020. Yes they were.But they always got the job done. I never pushed them hard, just notched up the controller one point at a time to get the best out of them. I had no complaints about the brakes. I enjoyed operating them, despite them being in bad shape, except the 8250-8411 group which they overhauled and cleaned up. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 17:43:16 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 17:39:40 2020. Bad wording there.Change "except" to "especially".) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:47:05 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 9 12:01:50 2020. And nest to it is a BT unit, one of the former BX units that had the 4000 series trailer removed but not replaced by a 2600 A car like most of them were. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:48:11 2020, in response to Re: UPDATE - Was - *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Apr 9 14:16:04 2020. Face shields would definitely be a good idea and for bus operators as well. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 17:50:59 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Edwards! on Thu Apr 9 16:48:04 2020. Per motor X 4 per car. 400 HP to 460 HP |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:14:05 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 17:50:59 2020. Too bad the BMT standards were never refitted with beefier motors. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:18:55 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Apr 9 11:52:59 2020. I did, too, although I much preferred working the trigger boxes. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:19:29 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:47:05 2020. And a Triplex on the other side. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:21:49 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Apr 9 12:41:17 2020. I remember when they entered service! Even my sister, who is not a subway buff, liked them. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:25:07 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 15:54:26 2020. I'm willing to bet the R-16s would have fared much better had they never left the Three Stooges Division. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 20:52:32 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 9 14:19:02 2020. Be viewed like the R10.The R27/30 were used, abused, and scrapped prematurely. yup. R-27/30 spent mucho tiempo on the M L J R AA lines. |
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Posted by zac on Thu Apr 9 21:00:29 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 9 12:01:50 2020. Really. It makes the triplex and standard look like ancient relics. Which they were. Yet, riding an R32 on the A or C didn't feel like it was that old the last time I did that back in November. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:11:05 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:14:05 2020. Same goes for the R-9s. They had only only 1 powered truck with 2 190 HP motors. Not sure about the standards but likely similar. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:18:09 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:14:05 2020. I just looked it up and saying you are correct would be an understatement. Standards had 1 motor per truck on the motor cars, each motor was 140 HP or 280 HP per motor car. Considering that a motor car weighed about 18,000 Lbs. more than an R32, it's amazing that they were able to move when loaded. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:18:12 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:14:05 2020. I just looked it up and saying you are correct would be an understatement. Standards had 1 motor per truck on the motor cars, each motor was 140 HP or 280 HP per motor car. Considering that a motor car weighed about 18,000 Lbs. more than an R32, it's amazing that they were able to move when loaded. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 21:35:45 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:18:09 2020. They couldn't get out of their own way. And I never rode them when they had the 4000 series unpowered cars around. |
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 22:57:43 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by randyo on Thu Apr 9 17:34:26 2020. Did you run the R32s after the General Overhaul? The complaints I heard came after that. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 02:50:35 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by VictorM on Thu Apr 9 22:57:43 2020. Actually, I did and it seemed that the braking quality was not as good after GOH as it was before. It’s too bad that some of the T/Os who complained didn’t have the opportunity to operate them as built. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:10:12 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:19:29 2020. Yep. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:11:36 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 9 20:25:07 2020. I don’t know how the 50 that were on the IND in the 1950s did but they were WH cars and not the trouble prone GEs.. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:16:42 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:11:05 2020. The difference between the steels and the R-1/9s was that the R-1/9s had the standard configuration of 1 motor truck per car with 2 motors and 1 trailer truck whereas the steels had maximum traction trucks with 2 motor trucks, 1 motor per truck to spread the weight. Maximum traction trucks of that type generally don't provide the same amount of pulling power due to less weight per truck. That was the problem that plagued the Qs after they were transferred to the 3 Av el since maximum traction trucks don’t work well with trailers in the consists. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 10 03:17:31 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 9 21:18:12 2020. See my post on maximum traction trucks. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 04:48:40 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 9 20:52:32 2020. I remember riding on them on the RR in 1967. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 04:50:09 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 9 21:35:45 2020. "Everybody out and push!" |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 10 05:08:48 2020, in response to Re: *VIDEO*: Last Runs of the R32 - ALL R32s now held Out of Service, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 10 04:48:40 2020. It's featured on the RR too in Saturday Night Fever |
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