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AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020 LinkPeople here are going to have to decide whether they dislike Cuomo or AOC more. :) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jan 14 13:23:53 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. People here are going to have to decide whether they dislike Cuomo or AOC more. :)If all else fails, do a coin toss. lol Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 14 13:33:35 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jan 14 13:23:53 2020. AOC best not fuck with Cuomo. Wouldn't put it past him to put someone up to primary her later this year (not that that's necessarily a bad thing) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 14 14:03:57 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. 6 in one hand, half dozen the other. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 14:28:44 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. Or maybe look at the merits of things and not at the personalities. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jan 14 14:37:26 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 14 14:03:57 2020. Sort of like Portnoy's Complaint! LOL! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 14 14:38:33 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. Only unless they run for the same office in a primary election. |
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Posted by mack c-49 on Tue Jan 14 15:23:25 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. If the governor had any experience of the #7 train he would know that making it part of an LGA transportation link is ridiculous unless the MTA plans to double or triple the frequency of service, and even then, those small IRT subway trains will never be luggage friendly. To spend billions of dollars on an ill-conceived infrastructure project of this magnitude, all for the vanity of the governor and the glory of his public works record would be nothing short of criminal. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 17:12:39 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. "That plan has been moving forward rapidly. But now, an influential Democrat, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"If you weren't the one who said she has no influence and is just another congresswoman, who was it that did say it? There were at least 3 of you. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 14 17:34:47 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. I agree with AOC on this issue. It has nothing to do with liking one or the other of them. |
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Posted by zac on Tue Jan 14 18:21:52 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. This has nothing to do with liking or not liking either of them. She is just right on this issue.Cuomo should just take the 7 train to a Mets game or the US Open. Or have to ride the local in the non-peak direction. If OTOH they had it go directly from LGA to Penn via the LIRR instead of a change it would make sense to go out of the way. I'd say to have it stop in Woodside so people can take the 7, but that's a schlepp up even with escalators. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 18:30:11 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 17:12:39 2020. I believe he was one |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 14 18:34:06 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by zac on Tue Jan 14 18:21:52 2020. I would send NJT to LGA and the LIRR to EWK |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 18:37:55 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by zac on Tue Jan 14 18:21:52 2020. This has nothing to do with liking or not liking either of them.Duh! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 18:39:16 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 18:30:11 2020. I was talking about national events, like what laws the House passes. This is her district, after all, which is a totally different matter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 19:13:25 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 14 17:34:47 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 19:17:39 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by zac on Tue Jan 14 18:21:52 2020. Woodside also allows the bulk of the LIRR to connect from LI. Only picking up the PW Branch and forcing most of the Island to change trains and double back is pretty lame. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 19:29:12 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 19:17:39 2020. It probably would have made sense to run it to Jamaica, creating an airtrain hub at the LIRR hub. In essence connecting the two airports too. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 19:39:26 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 19:29:12 2020. Not sure the JFK to LGA market would support the enormous expense. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 19:49:03 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 19:39:26 2020. No, but it connects to 10 of the 11 LIRR branches at Jamaica |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 20:00:13 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 14 13:33:35 2020. There are already primary challengers. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 20:02:03 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 14:28:44 2020. Excellent post. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 20:53:32 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 19:49:03 2020. other than atlantic what do you miss in woodside? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 21:19:45 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 20:53:32 2020. Almost just about every train stops in Jamaica (aside from some rush hour super expresses). Woodside, no. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 21:23:58 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 14 20:02:03 2020. Maybe the neverTrumpers should take advice like that. No matter what he does, they say it should be opposite |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 14 21:37:20 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jan 14 19:17:39 2020. The biggest physical problem with a JFK-style AirTrain from Jamaica to LGA would probably be getting past Roosevelt Ave. (with the 7-line el blocking the AirTrain from crossing above Roosevelt like the AirTrain crosses above other overpasses). And the problem with going from Astoria Blvd. on the N over the GCP is getting past the Amtrak viaduct. If they could branch a train off that, north of the GCP, that might be a way to bring rail from Penn Station to LGA. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 14 21:56:06 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 14 17:34:47 2020. Mr. Cuomo often says that La Guardia is the only major airport on the East Coast without a rail link.Huh? Washington Dulles (for now) and Boston Logan don't have one either (putting a bus line on a subway map doesn't magically make it a rail line). In any case AOC is late to the party. People have talked about extending the N for years, and every shitty two cent politician along the way grandstands and grinds the whole thing to a halt. It really is, this or nothing. For all his flaws Cuomo seems to have a knack for seeing a goal (LIRR main line 3rd track, finally opening NYP west end concourse, Replacing Tappan Zee, this Airtrain) and coming up with the imperfect solution that steamrolls the obstacles in order to get something built. Ideally the imperfections get ironed out later (hopefully fix bail reform, rail on the Tappan Zee, NYS tier 6, and Mineola station/interlocking). |
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Posted by zac on Wed Jan 15 00:45:17 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 14 21:37:20 2020. They just need to extend the N 2 blocks into the industrial zone and then there are no barriers. But that would require either an el through a residential area. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 15 02:01:54 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 14 18:34:06 2020. That would be a very good idea actually on all fronts. You would I think need to install third rail on the NJT side to accommodate LIRR trains, however. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jan 15 02:05:56 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by zac on Wed Jan 15 00:45:17 2020. I would look into that anyway as part of a longer-term plan to extend the (N) into the Bronx via a new bridge following a new stop after Ditmars Boulevard, then stopping at Food Service Drive in The Bronx before going underground and running underground from that point up to Jacobi Medical Center. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 15 08:19:34 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jan 14 21:37:20 2020. The inability to carry an non airport related traffic because of passenger service charge financing severely limits longer airtrains. Extending the subway is probably the best option, especially thinking long term possibilities, but it would require a political will not likely present. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Jan 15 12:46:51 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 14:28:44 2020. "Or maybe look at the merits of things and not at the personalities."+1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 13:51:20 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 21:23:58 2020. Never Trumpers (Republicans who opposed Trump) were the ones looking at the merits instead of party loyalty. But Trump has delivered for Republicans, he Lochnered up the courts. |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 13:51:20 2020. Trump has delivered for the countryRecord low unemployment , lowest for minority groups such as African Americans in the history of the country Iran is having civil unrest that may topple the oppressive religious regime ( Oboma handed them billions which they turned around and bought weapons ) Trump has also exposed the underbelly of the hate American leftist wing of the Democratic Party who are committing hate crimes against Jews and the lgbt community at an alarming rate Deep down trump is a moderate Democrats . Always has been |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 14:16:32 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020. 1. Thanks to a robust economic recovery that began in 2009.2. This he should get credit for, but it may well turn out to be another North Korea. 3. Bullshit 4. LOL! Hardly. If he were, he would be cleaning out the Federalist Society for his judicial appointments. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 15 14:40:18 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020. Trump has also exposed the underbelly of the hate American leftist wing of the Democratic PartyTruer words can not be spoken. Deep down trump is a moderate Democrats . Always has been Yup. Also correct. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jan 15 14:47:38 2020, in response to AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 14 13:06:16 2020. I will say that I'm no fan of AOC- leave it at that.But in this case I think she's right. Having the line run northwest (i.e. backwards) from Willets Point makes no sense and will waste billions better spent. How about this: Run a train M7/9 or M8, depending on which power system you prefer out of NYP and/or GCT, up the NY Connecting railroad, and branch off from there along the BQE, run over the GCP like the JKF Air Train does. Advantages: 1) More logical direction 2) One-seat ride for many people, so they don't have to lug luggage through too many connections. 3) No tunneling 4) Little-to-no ROW acquisition 5) All technology currently exists 6) Does not foul the existing subway in any way. 7) Fully integrated with an existing railroad or two. About the only additional costs I see are a catenary or 3rd rail, signals, and some railcars. Considering again, no tunneling or ROW acquisition, this should be doable. If some silly law says that an airport RR can't be part of mass transit, have our elected officials get that changed or waived. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 15 15:06:52 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jan 15 14:47:38 2020. When first proposed, I had the same criticism of the Cuomo plan. The plan proposed by AOC makes much more sense |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 15:07:49 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020. Do moderate Democrats undo decades of environmental law and consumer protection law to benefit big business as Trump has? Do moderate Democrats attempt to gut protections for pre-existing conditions in the Affordable Care Act, and in fact repeal the whole act, as Trump has? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 15:14:33 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by zac on Wed Jan 15 00:45:17 2020. That's the nub of the problem. The residents of those 2 blocks have always held the idea hostage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 15:36:35 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 15 14:40:18 2020. LOL! |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 15 16:12:05 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 15:07:49 2020. Do moderate Democrats appoint Gorsuch and Kavanaugh? |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Jan 15 16:16:07 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 15:14:33 2020. One possible solution would be to use an enclosed concrete viaduct, similar to Chicago's Green Line where it passes through the Illinois Institute of Technology: |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Wed Jan 15 17:07:19 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020. Not even close |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 15 18:11:08 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Jimmymc25 on Wed Jan 15 17:07:19 2020. No, he's quite accurate |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 19:08:55 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 15 16:12:05 2020. Right. |
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Posted by zac on Wed Jan 15 20:09:27 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 15 15:14:33 2020. everybody has a price... |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 15 20:10:25 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Brightonr68 on Wed Jan 15 14:11:05 2020. He was handed growing economy and falling unemployment rate on a silver platter by Obama.Trump has had to double the annual federal deficit to keep it from sliding back. He stupidly de-stablized Iran like Bush-43 did to Iraq and lied himself into doing it like Bush. He start a stupid trade war with China which put farmers in the midwest into recession, then has tried to bail them out with a $17 Billion welfare program. Manufacturing sector employment has resumed it decline. Rail freight shipments are off 7%. Trump is white supremist who has encouraged hate crimes against Jews and other ethnic and religious groups. Only he could say that Nazis are "good people" after Charlottesville. 70% of Jews are Democrats. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Wed Jan 15 20:34:50 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 15 18:11:08 2020. LOL!! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 15 21:30:54 2020, in response to Re: AOC Questions Governor's LGA AirTrain selection, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 15 20:10:25 2020. Lmao!!! 3 years later it's "still Obama", but if it all tanked as the Democrats were predicting (and hoping), it would be "Trump" of course.It's amazing how the left has an opposite for everything |
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