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LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an "F" Grade From Riders

Posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 13:52:23 2019

Los Angeles Times

I can attest to this story in today's Los Angeles Times as I rode the Blue (rechristened "A") Line from Rosa Parks Willowbrook station to downtown 7th Street one morning last week. It was a slow trip as ongoing construction was evident on the route.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 29 14:02:50 2019, in response to LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an "F" Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 13:52:23 2019.

WOW I WAS GONNA GO OUT THERE ANT TAKE SOME NEW PHOTOS !!



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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 29 14:14:07 2019, in response to LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an "F" Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 13:52:23 2019.

Hopefully these are growing pains that can resolve themselves...

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 29 14:33:37 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 29 14:14:07 2019.

LOOKS BAD TO ME

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 15:16:40 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Nov 29 14:14:07 2019.

If anything, this fiasco demonstrates the sheer incompetence of Metro management which considered meeting an arbitrary deadline was more important than testing the new construction. How could catenary be installed too low in five locations causing damage to half the fleet? Aren't there standards to be followed in installing wires? At the transfer point between Green and Blue Lines, used by hundreds of people daily, both the escalator and elevator were blocked off. Isn't that an ADA violation? I call it criminal negligence.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 29 15:26:56 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 15:16:40 2019.

IAWTP

MANAGEMENT IS WRONG HERE

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 29 17:12:08 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 15:16:40 2019.

That transfer has two escalators now and only one is blocked off. Actually it has three escalators. The third is in the bus bay area next to the second elevator which is also in service. You have to leave the station and walk about 100 yards. I'm guessing that's how people were still getting to the green line when the blue line was shut down.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 29 17:17:58 2019, in response to LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an "F" Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 13:52:23 2019.

I don't think that the "new blue" new A gets an F, but it's not a good situation. It seems an awful lot like the old blue line with lots of delays.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Nov 30 10:45:16 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Fri Nov 29 15:16:40 2019.

It is NOT criminal negligence... There is nothing criminal about it.
It would be criminal negligence if the left the escalator running and then someone got hurt on it.

Shut it down, that is save.

If you cannot get to where you want to go, well tough darts... That happens to everyone once in a while.

ROAR



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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 30 12:05:18 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Nov 30 10:45:16 2019.

I ride the green line (soon to be the C line) as well as the Silver line bus (soon to be the G Line, don't ask me why buses get letters) on my daily commute. The Silver line runs in the middle of the 110 fwy and if you're in a wheelchair you need to take an elevator up two levels to get from the Silver line to the green line.

Once I got on the bus and a guy in a wheelchair got off to make this transfer, but found out just in time that the elevator was out. The only way to make the transfer would be to get off at the next station, transfer to the 81 which parallels the freeway, go back to the green line and then take another elevator up one level.

This poor guy gets to the next station at Manchester and that elevator is out as well. We get to the next station at Slauson and that elevator is also out. We have to go all the way to USC where he has to take the elevator down, wheel two blocks to the 81, and then travel back for maybe 30 minutes (10 min on the fwy).

That was just terrible! Not sure if it violated ADA, but he didn't appear to be the type to sue. I guess when you're challenged you just get used to the frustration.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by George Foelschow on Sat Nov 30 15:32:05 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 30 12:05:18 2019.

Talk about walking in another man's shoes, metaphorically, of course. Travel on public transportation in Los Angeles can be frustrating at best and maddening at worst. But I wouldn't trade this city for North Dakota, to cite one example.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Dec 2 07:54:19 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Sat Nov 30 15:32:05 2019.

And I, being a wizard of unlimited magic, would rather be in North Dakota than in Lost Angles.


RORA

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by George Foelschow on Mon Dec 2 10:44:36 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Dec 2 07:54:19 2019.

In the spirit of this season I can only wish the very best to both of us and hope you have a very happy new year in 2020.

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Dec 2 12:13:45 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Dec 2 07:54:19 2019.

TOO COLD

YOU CAN HAVE IT

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Dec 2 12:14:07 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by George Foelschow on Sat Nov 30 15:32:05 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Dec 2 12:46:20 2019, in response to Re: LA: A (Blue) Line Gets an ''F'' Grade From Riders, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Dec 2 07:54:19 2019.

I would rather restore the Great Plains.

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