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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 6 11:15:19 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by gbs on Wed Nov 6 01:15:11 2019. Nice collection. |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Wed Nov 6 13:02:33 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 5 18:24:26 2019. The WF cars were never called 'Blue Birds' because the 'birds' did not appear until later.The TA referred to them as Bluebirds in the Spring 1967 map (below). 
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 6 15:04:05 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 5 19:04:23 2019. Yeah, I know. He tried to get me to enjoy all of the fun with him, but I went fishing instead. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Nov 6 15:37:31 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by gbs on Wed Nov 6 01:15:11 2019. FOAM!!. Thanks |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:04:25 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 5 23:35:45 2019. Fortunately, I never saw any white R-16s. I hadn’t realized that that many mainline IRT cars also received that treatment. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:30:07 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by gbs on Wed Nov 6 01:15:11 2019. I had hoped that that paint scheme would have been applied to the rest of the fleet but unfortunately that never happened. Even the half and half paint scheme was better that the faux silver and blue. The only modification I would have preferred on the racing stripe scheme and its variation is that the ends should have been painted solid turquoise like the R-36 WF. A preferable paint scheme to the “Ronanization” would have been a white and dark blue like the buses. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:50:32 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by X-Astorian on Wed Nov 6 13:02:33 2019. I once heard some old time IRT crews talking about “Bluebirds” and “Redbirds” even before the R-29s came in. It seems that they were referring to the R-12s and 14s as being the Bluebirds even though they were 2 tone grey, although they could have been referring to the interior paint scheme. There were 2 possibilities for the Redbirds. One was the R-15s which were maroon with grey and beige racing stripes and the other would have been the R-17s which were a solid maroon although a slightly liter shade than the R-15s. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Nov 6 18:04:57 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:30:07 2019. I hadn't realized the R-36 WF was a solid turquoise color at the ends. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 6 18:07:56 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:04:25 2019. Yeah.Most of the IRT R units were repainted that sucky "here is the perfect canvas to spray paint" white, with black trimming. The M had a few R16s in white, even with that,they were destroyed by vandalism. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 6 18:48:38 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:50:32 2019. Didn't they repaint a few R10s in similar R33ML style tuscan red paint around 1963? |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 6 20:17:17 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 6 18:48:38 2019. 6 of them. I thought they looked tacky in that. OTOH, the R27's looked good in red. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 6 20:22:54 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Q4 on Wed Nov 6 18:04:57 2019. Neither did I |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 7 16:40:15 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Q4 on Wed Nov 6 18:04:57 2019. The R-33 singles were solid turquoise at both ends. The R-36s were solid turquoise at the #1 (open) ends of the married pairs but the racing stripes continued on the #2 ends of the cars between the cars of the married pairs. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 7 16:47:15 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 6 18:48:38 2019. The small number of red R-10s that did not receive the racing stripes and later the R-12s through 17s along with the R-27/30s were painted in the brighter Tartar red of the R-29s and ML 33s until the Ronan silver/blue came along. I guess you could describe the maroonish color of the R-17s as delivered as Tuscan red. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 7 17:14:35 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by randyo on Thu Nov 7 16:47:15 2019. You're right. I meant Tartar red, not tuscan red for the repainted R10s |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 7 19:12:44 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by gbs on Wed Nov 6 01:15:11 2019. The racing stripe scheme was the best one of all. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Sat Nov 9 10:56:04 2019, in response to When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by gbs on Tue Nov 5 04:15:28 2019. I'm not at all happy with the color they have used for the museum cars. It's not like there aren't any good color photos of the originals, or that affordable color-matching technology is hard to come by. They look garish. Cheesy. Tacky. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 9 23:38:24 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Avid Reader on Wed Nov 6 15:04:05 2019. Aunt Polly may have volunteered him. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 9 23:39:55 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 6 10:30:52 2019. All of the R-36s became Redbirds. In fact, all LAHT cars from the R-26s up became Redbirds except for the aforementioned cars that were painted green. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 11 01:18:20 2019, in response to Re: When the Redbirds were Blue...., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 9 23:39:55 2019. A few R-17s also got the redbird treatment for use on the Flushing Line while the R-33 singles were being GOHed. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 13 11:34:05 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 3, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Nov 3 07:58:09 2019. And those Kawasaki cars on the subway-surface lines are STILL in use 39 years later. |
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