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15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019 A decade and a half ago today, transit buff Larry Fendrick launched Subchat, which replaced a similar site that was shut down by nycsubway.org creator Dave Pirmann, just 11 days prior. Here’s where it all started. Many thanks to Larry for allowing everyone on here to use this platform to discuss anything, and everything transit related, as well as off-topic discussions. Thank you, Unca Larry!
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Aug 18 02:32:42 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Happy Anniversary fellow railfans.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sun Aug 18 06:27:02 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Lots of handles that have since disappeared from the scene as well as handles that are here today. Bill Newkirk
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Railman718* on Sun Aug 18 07:58:34 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Even way back then my sarcasm wasn't understood.. Wait its still not understood....
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 18 08:32:09 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* I forget. How did we all find out this board existed if the prior board was no longer available?
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 18 08:44:29 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 18 07:58:34 2019.* LMAOOOO!
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 18 08:46:27 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 18 08:32:09 2019.* For the life of me, I have no idea how I discovered SubChat after SubTalk disappeared...
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sun Aug 18 08:52:46 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 08:46:27 2019.* For the life of me, I have no idea how I discovered SubChat after SubTalk disappeared... Sub-Talk had developed a large and dedicated following prior to its being taken down. Many of us were in contact with other people and somehow we heard about Sub-Chat. Also Dave posted a message about it as well on NYC.ORG. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by AlM* on Sun Aug 18 08:54:59 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 08:52:46 2019.* Also Dave posted a message about it as well on NYC.ORG. Aha!
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sun Aug 18 08:56:30 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* So sub-chat started fifteen years ago. How time flies. Many of us started with sub-talk and remain in contact to this day. Sub-chat remains viable to this day despite determined efforts by some to tear it down. It remains a vital source of news and a place to exchange ideas. Thank you Larry for keeping it going and for allowing me to post the Almanac. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Aug 18 09:39:43 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 08:52:46 2019.* That he did. I think that's how I found my way here.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Easy* on Sun Aug 18 09:41:54 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Happy anniversary to all! I didn't know that I joined so close to the beginning. Maybe 6 months after that. It seemed like the community was so well established, obviously due to the Subtalk legacy.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Easy* on Sun Aug 18 09:42:37 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 18 07:58:34 2019.* What?
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Aug 18 10:11:03 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 18 09:41:54 2019.* I forget how I found out about SubChat. I was on the old SubTalk.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Easy* on Sun Aug 18 10:16:52 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 18 06:27:02 2019.* Some of the more prolific posters that have passed: Dan Lawrence daDouceman SelkirkTMO R7 Torresdale Express Several others that posted less frequently. Lots that have disappeared but we don't know what happened and may have also passed. Of my favorite 50 or so posters from 10 years ago, only a handful still post regularly. No offense to the ones still holding it down, but we've lost a lot.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Aug 18 10:58:01 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 18 10:16:52 2019.* Thank you for those thoughts. Easy
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sun Aug 18 13:20:10 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 18 09:39:43 2019.* That he did. I think that's how I found my way here Once sub-talk closed down we were like lost sheep wandering in the wilderness. Fortunately Larry left a light on. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Osmosis Jones* on Sun Aug 18 13:35:14 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 18 10:16:52 2019.* Selkirk died!? He had a great sense of humor, such a good presence on here. RIP to all though. 🙏🏾
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Sun Aug 18 13:35:45 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 18 07:58:34 2019.* 😂😁😂😁😂😁
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Sun Aug 18 13:38:33 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Seems it has lasted longer than the original SubTalk. I know nycsubway.org was up and running when I got Internet access in the summer of 1995, but I don't know if SubTalk was around at that time. Makes me wonder if some other board will replace this one when the time comes for it to end.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Aug 18 15:01:22 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 18 13:35:14 2019.* Book of Last runs
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by mcorivervsaf* on Sun Aug 18 15:03:05 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 18 13:35:14 2019.* He passed away on December of 2016. Had a great sense of humor. I still miss him.
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33* on Sun Aug 18 15:40:40 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Aug 18 13:35:14 2019.* Tuscarora Almanac – December 13, 2016 – The Book of Last Runs (In Memoriam) It is with deep regret that we record the passing of (Selkirk) Mr. Kevin McAleavey (1951-2016). He was a fine gentleman and a rail scholar and we miss his wit and wisdom. The coming winter will be made a little colder by his passing. Farewell good friend and may a train of Arnines take you to your destination. “And somewhere men are laughing and somewhere children shout, but there is no joy on sub-chat tonight, mighty Selkirk has bowed out”. I think of Kevin every time I drive up the thruway and pass exit 22 for "Selkirk". How on earth he got the thruway authority to name an exit after him I will never know. But Selkirk was a true Renaissance man. Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Wallyhorse* on Sun Aug 18 16:55:36 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Congrats!
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Posted by subfan* on Sun Aug 18 21:14:20 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Wow - hard to believe it's been that long. I've been here since the start - I think my first post was #43. I was on the old SubTalk before that - I'm feeling old... subfan
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Aug 18 21:27:59 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 08:52:46 2019.* I heard about this place from you & Joe C. from our pre retirement place of employment.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Aug 18 21:55:14 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 18 07:58:34 2019.* It got lost in all the threads you've lost.
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Posted by jimmymc25* on Sun Aug 18 22:46:01 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 15:40:40 2019.* He was my favorite poster here. I, too miss him.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Sun Aug 18 23:30:01 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 15:40:40 2019.* I feel the same way. Through all the threads on this board and the other, I read them and stop to think, what would Selkirk have to say? or What kind of embedded image would Selkirk have responded with? I miss him. Like everyone else here.
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Express Rider* on Sun Aug 18 23:35:12 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 13:20:10 2019.* I would agree. I like the format of this board, more open and spontaneous for everyone to respond; in a way, like an ongoing conversation, rather than those websites with separate subject webpages. One example - though I don't know much or follow heavy rail, there'll be a transit thread, where a similarity of connection to heavy rail is mentioned, and the people will expand upon it. My reaction - gee, I didn't know that!
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Express Rider* on Sun Aug 18 23:35:47 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 18 08:56:30 2019.* Amen! Like the A-train!
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Aug 19 01:25:15 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by subfan on Sun Aug 18 21:14:20 2019.* I am old, I'm 77.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Mon Aug 19 01:28:50 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 19 01:25:15 2019.* You've got eight years on me. Do you remember riding Hi-V's and/or the 3rd ave. el?
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Aug 19 01:31:49 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 01:28:50 2019.* Not that well, I'm in the Philadelphia area and know very little about New York City, When I was in my teens, I went on a day trip and road the #8 line, was that the 3rd Ave. EL , or a part of it?
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Posted by Express Rider* on Mon Aug 19 02:00:24 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 19 01:31:49 2019.* Yes, I think for awhile the #8 was the third ave. el. #8 was also the route number IIRC given to the Astoria Line, when it was still jointly operated with the IRT. Being from Philadelphia, do you remember riding the original Market-Frankford cars - the earliest part of the fleet that had clerestory roofs and looked very similar to the pre-war IRT cars? I read somewhere on-line, that the later pre-war Market Frankfort cars could not operate with the earliest - the way the difference was described, seemed as though the earlier cars were also high voltage. Thanks!
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Aug 19 04:25:28 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 02:00:24 2019.* Thank you, I will try to find to so information for you.I might have ridden the pre-war Market -Frankford cars, but its'a fuzzy memory.
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Posted by Dan* on Mon Aug 19 08:24:02 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* I'm here since day-1. IIRC the old Sub-Talk started around 1995/96 because I remember accessing it at work before I even owned a PC. For a while the original SubTalk didn't require an ID/Password which allowed for 'fake' postings. Weird but many have been posting here since before some of the newer posters were even born.
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Posted by Jersey Mike* on Mon Aug 19 09:47:04 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* Thank you Larry for keeping this place going! I know how hard it is to find people willing to keep independent platforms running in the face of the major social media behemoths.
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Aug 19 10:08:39 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 02:00:24 2019.* Express Rider, a friend sent me this information, it's interesting. Yes, the Market Street, and Frankford cars were electrically incompatible. So they could not be operated normally within a single train. There was also the issue of their being of two different lengths, as the Market Street cars were just over 49 feet long, and the Frankford cars were 55 feet long, which is the standard that was established for the Budd cars, and the current M4 cars. The Market Street cars and Frankford cars did however, share a common coupler. This was for the purpose of shop moves, and in the event of a disabled train out on the line, another train of either type could pull it to the yard. This practice was once again carried over at least temporarily, with the delivery of the M4 cars. As they were first delivered and there were so few of them, they were fitted with a temporary coupler compatible with the coupler on the Budd cars, for the same purpose of moving a disabled train on the line. As the M4s began outnumbering the Budds as more and more Budds were retired, you could see more M4s with their current permanent couplers in place.
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Posted by Dave* on Mon Aug 19 10:33:29 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 19 09:47:04 2019.* IVMAWTP!
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Posted by G1Ravage* on Mon Aug 19 19:23:49 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 18 08:32:09 2019.* There were other message boards. Word spread.
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Posted by cortelyounext* on Mon Aug 19 19:55:31 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* As you should know by now, I failed to achieve any of the career paths goals objectives call it what you will that I set for myself while growing up in New Jersey. This was due to an almost incomprehensible paucity which means lack of knowledge, determination, and commitment of time and effort. 1. Garbage~~man~~person, north Jersey - I even picked out my company name and address: DiCapasso Carting and Sanitation, 101 Industry Drive, South Carteret, New Jersey 2. NHL hockey player 3. Motor~~man~~person, The City of New York I tell people I am a motor~~man~~person because it impresses the people I am trying to impress. I have no problem lying in order to garner respect and be showered with accolades. Am I proud of it? No. Can I live with it? Yes. Would I do it again? Absolutely. Happy Anniversary, SubChat.
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Posted by cortelyounext* on Mon Aug 19 19:55:31 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* As you should know by now, I failed to achieve any of the career paths goals objectives call it what you will that I set for myself while growing up in New Jersey. This was due to an almost incomprehensible paucity which means lack of knowledge, determination, and commitment of time and effort. 1. Garbage~~man~~person, north Jersey - I even picked out my company name and address: DiCapasso Carting and Sanitation, 101 Industry Drive, South Carteret, New Jersey 2. NHL hockey player 3. Motor~~man~~person, The City of New York I tell people I am a motor~~man~~person because it impresses the people I am trying to impress. I have no problem lying in order to garner respect and be showered with accolades. Am I proud of it? No. Can I live with it? Yes. Would I do it again? Absolutely. Happy Anniversary, SubChat.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Aug 19 20:08:51 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 19 19:55:31 2019.* If you want to play in the NHL, eating like me is an advantage. You should be a fakeT/O with TF as an RDO.
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Posted by Andrew Saucci* on Mon Aug 19 22:54:02 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 19 09:47:04 2019.* "independent platforms" Now I know what I like best about SubChat. There is so much talk about IND platforms... but seriously, I like something that isn't controlled by Google, Microsoft, Facebook, or Twitter!
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Posted by TeRrApin Station* on Mon Aug 19 23:57:01 2019, in response to 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 18 00:03:41 2019.* You're welcome.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Tue Aug 20 00:51:59 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 19 10:08:39 2019.* Thank you! I really appreciate your efforts and answer to my question.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Tue Aug 20 00:55:37 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 19 09:47:04 2019.* Good post! We should never take Subchat for granted! Thank you very much Larry, for keeping this site ongoing and active! :)
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Posted by Railman718* on Tue Aug 20 01:35:15 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 18 21:55:14 2019.* I dont lose.. BTW you know NONE of your classmates even remember you? That kinda sucks... Felt you should know that...
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Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today
Posted by Railman718* on Tue Aug 20 01:35:41 2019, in response to Re: 15th Anniversary of Subchat Today, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 18 09:42:37 2019.* Exactly...
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