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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 16 08:31:53 2019 Tuscarora Almanac – July 16, 1956 – The Book of Last Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division Myrtle Avenue station on the Fourth Avenue line is closed. Source: New York Division Bulletin /April 2004 Tuscarora Almanac - July 16, 1974 - The Book of Wrecks Ridgewood, Queens, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division A fire at the Metropolitan Avenue Terminal of the BMT Myrtle Avenue Line causes heavy damage to the southern end of the station. There was an eight car train on the southbound (M2) track consisting of (n) 8513-2, 8203-2, 8237-6 and 8359-8 (s). It was reported that cars 8202-3 were totally destroyed and cars 8512 and 8237 were badly burned and beyond repair. Source: New York Division Bulletin /August 1976 Tuscarora Almanac – July 16, 1990 – The Book of First Runs Los Angeles, California Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transit Authority Light Rail service returns to Los Angeles after twenty-seven years with the opening of the Blue Line between Los Angeles and Long Beach. Source: “California Trolleys in Color” (Morning Sun Books /2002) by Mr. P. Allen Copeland Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 10:26:10 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 16 08:31:53 2019. Back when the R-27/30s were properly mated. I wonder if they coupled 8513 to 8236 and that kicked off the whole mismatch thing (probably not). |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jul 16 10:49:36 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 16 08:31:53 2019. Thank you, as always!! |
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Posted by W.B. on Tue Jul 16 11:43:39 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 10:26:10 2019. If they were, it would've been possible - R-26/28 (IRT) and R-27/30/30A (BMT/IND)'s "married pair" was structured "Protestant" like as opposed to the "Catholic" style introduced in the IRT's R-29's. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 16 14:39:52 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 10:26:10 2019. Yes they were mated together. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 16 14:56:25 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by W.B. on Tue Jul 16 11:43:39 2019. The R-26s and R-28s converted to Catholicism during GOH.:) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 16:34:35 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by W.B. on Tue Jul 16 11:43:39 2019. Well with the drawbars (R-29, R-33, R-36 etc), a bit more problematic to mismatch, but not impossible ( see all the mismatched R-32s, possibly a few R-40 Slants, and the famous R-40M/R-42 "mixed marriage" as a result of the Williamsburg Bridge crash. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 16 16:56:19 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 16 16:34:35 2019. The R32's weren't mismatched before GOH, but many did come back mismatched because some cars needed more work than others so they were matched up as they were completed so they could be quickly put back into service. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jul 16 17:57:52 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Jul 16 08:31:53 2019. I wonder why they did not think ahead when rebuilding Metropolitan Avenue and make it where it could handle 10-car trains? |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 16 19:34:31 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jul 16 17:57:52 2019. It wouldn't make sense to do it unless there were definite plans to upgrade the rest of the stations on the line as well. I don't think this will happen any time soon with all of the MTA's funding issues. If you had longer platforms how would you get longer trains to utilize them? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 17 13:57:55 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jul 16 17:57:52 2019. At the time of the fire, the original signaling was still in place, and extending the platform would have required not only relocating the switches but realigning the tracks as well, which was not of immediate importance at the time. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 17 14:47:19 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 16 16:56:19 2019. They had their first marriages annulled.:) |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jul 21 18:17:34 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by murray1575 on Tue Jul 16 19:34:31 2019. The idea would have been over time (not all at once) lengthen ALL of the platforms in the eastern division. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 21 22:11:10 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jul 21 18:17:34 2019. I agree, but at the time Southern Div platforms were being lengthened, the demographics in the neighborhoods served by the Eastern didn’t call for longer trains and a few years lated the city’s financial crisis precluded any non super essential spending on such projects. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 22 02:35:00 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by randyo on Wed Jul 17 13:57:55 2019. Considering the times, it was lucky they rebuilt it at all. This could have served as an excuse to abandon the line. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 22 12:35:14 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 22 02:35:00 2019. At the time the M still served a purpose by going into the Southern division. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 24 11:41:24 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 21 22:11:10 2019. There were also serious structural problems to lengthen stations to 10 cars on the Nassau/Centre St line stations. Chambers St would have been the most challenging. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 24 16:37:56 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 16, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 24 11:41:24 2019. I’m not sure that Fulton St wouldn't have even been more difficult. |
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