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Posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019 Except 7. Communications problems. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 19 14:21:17 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. That must suck. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 19 14:30:07 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Well, look at the wonders of the computer age now. |
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Posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 14:32:55 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 19 14:30:07 2019. What kind of communications issue stops everything? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 19 14:36:55 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 14:32:55 2019. The loss of all communications. As is the case here. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 19 14:37:57 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. I just barely made it. Got off a 6 at 125 seconds before the whole system went down. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 19 14:38:53 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 19 14:36:55 2019. LOL |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 19 14:40:04 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 19 14:37:57 2019. Are all of the trains at stations or are some stuck between stations? |
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Posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:45:11 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 19 14:40:04 2019. Many stuck between. Check the MTA Twitter feed. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jul 19 14:56:13 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Wow, at the height of the rush hour. Must be chaos down below.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 19 14:56:46 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. When BN built their new HQ in Ft. Worth a couple decades ago, they arranged electric utility feed from two different parts of "the grid" and bought a diesel genset with enough fuel tanks on site for 7 days.MTA SHOULD have set up segments of the IRT to be autonomous in just this sort of situation. Allowing one entire division to go down on a day of extreme temps is bad. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 19 15:01:13 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jul 19 14:56:46 2019. Breakdown of Communications |
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Posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 15:05:00 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 19 15:01:13 2019. Didn’t the same thing happen a couple weeks ago? How long did it take last time to reset? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:06:51 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Now lets see Andy Boy Cuomo show up to posture, pontificate and point fingers, trying to convince the world about how he can take charge. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 19 15:25:46 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:06:51 2019. He'll blame Byford, whether just or unjust. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Fri Jul 19 15:33:01 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Just saw a 4 go by outside YankeeStadium. Is problem fixed? |
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Posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 15:36:00 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Italianstallion on Fri Jul 19 15:33:01 2019. From Twitter:The computer system that powers our signals in the A Division (the 1/2/3 and 4/5/6 lines) is starting to come back on line. We are focused on making sure all trains are properly positioned, and will gradually begin to restore service |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 19 15:41:07 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Not again... |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Jul 19 15:42:03 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. This also happened on a Saturday earlier this month.I've never seen so many strong signs of incompetence from MTA NYCT than I have over the past 3 years or so. There were multiple derailments in 2017 caused by human error. This year there were several incidents of debris falling from the #7 tracks. I was a passenger for three platform overshoots on the Brighton Line over the course of about 18 months. At the beginning of this month, my trips on the southbound N were screwed up for two evenings in a row (almost exactly 24 hours apart) for the same reason. What gives? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:46:42 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. I wonder why the #7 wasn't affected? Is that line somehow wired into the B division? Just an out of left field guess. |
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Posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 15:55:45 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:46:42 2019. 8:00pm. 1/2/3 in Manhattan now moving at normal speeds. Took 2 hours to resolve. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 19 16:14:53 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 14:32:55 2019. Implied, mrw, or implode? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:01:49 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 14:32:55 2019. Communication failure from the Control Center to the signals and switches out in the field.Wait till the B Division is set up like that. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:02:52 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 19 14:40:04 2019. According to where they were when the computers went down. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:07:07 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:06:51 2019. No, he'll demand an investigation.Then blame Con Ed for not supplying enough power to the system. No wonder why front line transit workers get assaulted. The passengers are pissed and look for the first available punching bag. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jul 19 18:26:15 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 19 15:01:13 2019. "What we have here is failure to communicate"At the time that film was made, 60 freakin' years ago the same IRT would have kept running when any one part broke. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jul 19 18:26:44 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:06:51 2019. His voters buy it every time. |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Fri Jul 19 18:47:02 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:07:07 2019. Was there any official or insider reason for the July 6 communications failure? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 18:57:36 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:07:07 2019. "The passengers are pissed and look for the first available punching bag."Oh yeah. Front line employees always take shit, sometimes literally. I've known toll takers( when they had them) get bills with feces on them whenever there was a toll increase. Happened also every now & then to MN ticket sellers after a fare increase. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 19:01:30 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Brightonr68 on Fri Jul 19 18:47:02 2019. Byford was asked that during tonight's presser.He said the cause was under investigation. He was also asked if both incidents were related. He also answered that's under investigation too. |
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Posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 19:19:31 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 19:01:30 2019. So with this network issue did the signals stop functioning? Why couldn't they even operate the Shuttle? (each train is on it's own track) |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Jul 19 19:36:36 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 18:57:36 2019. Same public who elects Blahs and AndyBoy. |
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Posted by gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 20:57:07 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 19 15:46:42 2019. The 7 line is using CBTC signal system |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:50:44 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Brightonr68 on Fri Jul 19 18:47:02 2019. IIRC July 6 was a ConEd power issue affecting a large chunk of the west side, trains and surface.This appears to be a computer glitch. That they do not have an entire backup computer on line and waiting to take over is a mystery. Live by the computer die by the computer. RAOR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:53:12 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Jul 19 15:42:03 2019. These things can be fixed, but the fare will be $7.50 per trip.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:57:20 2019, in response to Entire IRT suspended, posted by LA Scott on Fri Jul 19 14:19:11 2019. Watt LION understands NOT is why the signal system from the 1800s is not working. Signals and Trippers have nothing to do with computers. Just because some high mucky-muck cannot see what is happening doesn't cut it.Oh, yeah, they took away the local towers. Aren't they physically still there for situations just like this? Heck, even I could run those old GRS boards. ROAR |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Sat Jul 20 04:11:50 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 19 14:30:07 2019. Technology is wonderful when it works—as they said at Chernobyl.Alan Follett South San Francisco, CA |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jul 20 05:04:46 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Alan Follett on Sat Jul 20 04:11:50 2019. Chernobyl was a mAnually operated plant |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 20 06:33:04 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 20:57:07 2019. Had they not been converted to CBTC, would the #7 had been knocked out as well ? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 20 07:02:50 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 19:19:31 2019. In simple English "network issue" or "network communications issue" means total signal failure.The shuttle wasn't operated because it still has grade time signals which, like on the main lines, by rule the t/o needs permission to key by. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 07:03:52 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by gold_12th on Fri Jul 19 20:57:07 2019. So that assumes a different set of computers controls the CBTC #7 line signals, therefore, not affected. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 20 07:24:39 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jul 20 05:04:46 2019. Speaking of Power Plants, 3 Mile Island closing |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 20 07:31:25 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:50:44 2019. The July 6th incident Byford said is still being investigated.The July 13th incident was caused by Con Ed. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 20 08:42:34 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:50:44 2019. Now it seems a computer won't be enough to the IRT back together again, unlike Pelham 1-2-3. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 20 08:44:19 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 18:01:49 2019. I can hear Ricky now: aye-aye-aye. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 20 08:45:13 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 19 14:30:07 2019. "That does not compute, that does not compute, that does not compute..." |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jul 20 10:53:48 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 03:57:20 2019. Original IRT equipment was never GRS only US&S. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 20 12:43:46 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 20 10:53:48 2019. Yeah... Armstrong levers. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 17:01:10 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by mrw on Fri Jul 19 14:32:55 2019. Blue screen of death |
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Posted by jabrams on Sat Jul 20 17:52:36 2019, in response to Re: Entire IRT suspended, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 17:01:10 2019. Since train T/O's and conductors have two-way radios (although the older radios with the docking station (R1/9 times) and the external outside antenna probably worked better), why couldn't each train announce their location and given permission to enter the next station.(Pelham 123 approaching 23rd St. with a green light). The radios were probably used to tell the T/O's to stop and remain awaiting further instructions.Secondly, if the trains were going to remain in the stations, why discharge the passengers? Let them either leave or wait it out in the A/C cars. |
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