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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 06:48:41 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 13 06:44:04 2019. loss leaderOdd term to use. Even if your entire electric generation is from fossil fuels, it is a cheaper way to provide peak demand than building a gas turbine that is only used 3 hours per day. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 07:05:41 2019, in response to Re: CBS news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 12 10:00:47 2019. Je m'appelle Spider-Cochon. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Jun 13 07:17:08 2019, in response to Re: Nouvelles SRC, nouveaux trains Acela, premier regard, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 07:05:41 2019. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 07:36:00 2019, in response to Re: Nouvelles SRC, nouveaux trains Acela, premier regard, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Jun 13 07:17:08 2019. Thanks! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 13 07:46:25 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 06:48:41 2019. LION is not so sure about that.Costs are always fungible and generally mean nothing from year to year. ROAR |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 08:13:05 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 13 07:46:25 2019. LION is not so sure about that.So why did NY State Power Authority build two very large pumped storage plant decades ago, before anyone worried about the impact of fossil fuels? They could have built gas turbines to meet demand had they chosen to do so. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 13 10:16:17 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 13 03:47:36 2019. And that's the big "if".But now that feeds into the NIMBY canard of increased passenger rail making less-developed areas more developed, i.e. more than interstates do. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Jun 13 10:19:33 2019, in response to Re: Nouvelles SRC, nouveaux trains Acela, premier regard, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 07:36:00 2019. lol yw |
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Posted by Pragmatist on Thu Jun 13 11:08:42 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 08:13:05 2019. Lewiston was a no brainer, it dovetail s with Niagara, I know a little less about Blenheim Gilboa, but I'm at a conference that NYPA is at, maybe I can get a quick lesson. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 12:38:29 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Pragmatist on Thu Jun 13 11:08:42 2019. Blenheim GilboaUntil they built it, it was a valley with a river in it, and an adjacent flat-topped mountain maybe 600 feet higher. Many miles from any other hydroelectric project. Take a look at this great link. A map of many thousands of possible pumped storage sites. I've looked at the ones in NY. They all look technically reasonable, though they would have huge NIMBY problems. But the ones in unpopulated regions of Quebec should have great potential. |
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Posted by Pragmatist on Thu Jun 13 15:20:17 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 12:38:29 2019. I remember the Storm King MTN fight. Cool site's thanks.. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 13 15:25:52 2019, in response to CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 12 00:30:36 2019. Ain't gonna matter if the Hudson tubes fail...WAKE THE HELL UP! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 13 16:39:51 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by kp5308 on Thu Jun 13 15:25:52 2019. Amtrak's too big to fit through the Hudson Tubes. And yes, they need to look after the North River Tunnels instead (as does squatter NJ Rancid), and control costs with respect to "Gateway". |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 13 17:01:53 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Pragmatist on Thu Jun 13 15:20:17 2019. I remember that too. IIRC what shot that idea down was the huge aqueduct supplying fresh water to NYC that ran underneath that proposed site & the potential disruption of water supply if there were "problems". This was also long before there were enviornmental concerns, fish kills & waterfowl habitat disruptions, NIMBY noise etc.Weather or not that the original excuse was BS is totaly moot,since we all know it was never built. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 14 05:20:19 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 13 17:01:53 2019. Storm King Mountain is a beautiful place. I don't regret that one going the way it did.NIMBYs shot down another one, 5 miles upstream of Blenheim-Gilboa. The lower reservoir would have been the existing NYC water supply Schoharie Reservoir. The upper would have been new, hollowing out a flat hilltop. The NIMBYs worried about water quality (silt from all the pumping up and down) and temperature. The Shandaken Tunnel carries Schoharie water into the Esopus Creek upstream of the Ashokan reservoir, and the fishermen said the increased temperature of the water would kill all the trout in the Esopus. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Jun 14 05:28:11 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 14 05:20:19 2019. You do have to admit that NY has some of the best tasting water in the US.Not to mention some of the best for baking and cooking. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 14 05:33:57 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 08:13:05 2019. They did it because they could do it and it was better than a small gen-set.I am wondering if there is still the same advantages, certainly not in every place. You have to have a mountain and two bodies of water, and a source of nocturnal spare energy. There may be some places where nocturnal surplus in not available. Big Server farms never sleep. City lights are more numerous and more powerful, some places have industries (such as aluminmium maikng that are energy intensive and never sleep. It is a good solution but may not be the best, esp with solar power coming on line. Such power sources do not have nocturnal surplus. ROARING |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 14 05:36:37 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by AlM on Thu Jun 13 12:38:29 2019. Interesting! Who Knew!ROAR |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 14 05:46:35 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 14 05:33:57 2019. Pumped storage plants provide peak power. In the 1970s, that was needed during the daytime. As situations changed, peak power may be needed at a different time of day.But it is highly unlikely that demand will be totally level with generation capacity, all day long. So peak power is likely to remain a requirement. And pumped storage does that more cheaply than a gas-fired peak power generator. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 14 12:31:11 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 13 16:39:51 2019. He’s not referring the the original Hudson (PATH) tubes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 14 14:47:12 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 14 12:31:11 2019. Those are the only ones. |
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Posted by WillD on Fri Jun 14 18:05:36 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 13 03:52:48 2019. The issue would be how long the 3rd rail shoes would last and the impact of their wear on the 3rd rail itself. You can run at 100+mph, but you're going to chew through those shoes, especially when in wet or icy conditions. Inspections would become vital as there'd always be the possibility of a shoe becoming worn to the point where the sacrificial element is eroded resulting in the bracket for the 3rd rail shoe becoming the point of electrical contact and damaging the 3rd rail itself. Alignment of the 3rd rail may be simple at the 50-ish miles per hour NYCT plods along at, but at anything above 80 there's a very real possibility of a misaligned approach shearing the shoes off one side of a train. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jun 15 00:04:56 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 13 03:54:07 2019. There was a 100 MPH speed restriction on Eurostars in England while running on third rail. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 00:31:39 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 12 15:22:59 2019. How many major stops do the Regionals make that are low platform? I was thinking Amtrak could use them for Regionals, if they increase the number of cars in the train and reduce the top speed. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 00:40:28 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 12 15:25:55 2019. I wrap 1 arm across my neck ending with the hand behind my neck. I then lean my head on that hand, so that the hand supports my head and the pressure keeps my hand in place. Place/interlace the other hand with the first arm for light support. It looks like you're choking yourself with a wrestling move, but it works with many high back chairs! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 00:45:57 2019, in response to CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jun 12 00:30:36 2019. I have a question: how are they going to increase capacity by 25% without shrinking the seats? It sounds like the head of Amtrak is applying more "airline logic" and trying to cram people into smaller seats. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Jun 15 03:17:20 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 00:45:57 2019. Longer trains. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 15 04:18:59 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by WillD on Fri Jun 14 18:05:36 2019. How did they manage all that when the Chunnel trains ran on 3rd rail to Waterloo station ? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 15 05:20:30 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by WillD on Fri Jun 14 18:05:36 2019. You are looking at 1800s shoes and rails.A third rail can be engineered to take such things into account. Perhaps the shoe can ride with 18" of contact along the rail. Perhaps there can be a guide on the rail to keep the shoe in alighment. Perhaps there can be a wide bellmouth so that the shoe will be guided onto the third rail guideway. Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps. Perhaps when someone gets Sirius about HSR something will be done. But all of that is quite unnecessary.... Others haave HSR and some even Mag Lev, we can buy the technology from them,. improve upon it some and have a world calss HSR system. China is really the only place to look for this technology, all other places are too small geographically to require the best in HSR. HSR will come to this country, and it will NOT be a federal boondoggle or a nation wide system. Geographic regions will build regional systems to suit their needs and they will do it without the fed. ROAR |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 15 06:06:05 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 15 05:20:30 2019. I love trains but ,No need for long distance high speed rail as long as we have cheap air flight . Besides being a longer journey , it will be way more expensive . Many of the negatives or air travel will come to rail if the volume of people increase . The thread on bag size checks at los anglers terminal will be widespread. Let the private sector deal with the capital costs of long distance travel . Not another ideologic driven boondoggle like California high speed rail . If I want to fly to Chicago there are dozens of flights at various times of day . Europe is a much smaller place than the USA . More city focused .Even in Europe , high speed rail is expensive . Air flight is quicker and cheaper between many destinations . Many people also travel large distances by bus . They don’t drive into city centers due to the lack of parking Boeing is developing a new medium range wide body planes that will eliminate much of the negatives of air travel . |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jun 15 06:22:35 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Jun 14 05:28:11 2019. And and ingredient in NEW YORK PIZZA! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jun 15 06:30:04 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 14 05:33:57 2019. During such high power demands at night, Shut off the pretty lights on the cross river bridges, the decorative external sky scraper illumination, just for a start. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Jun 15 07:18:17 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 00:31:39 2019. I don't think there are very many low-platform stops these days. Mystic and Westerly come to mind, but most Regionals don't stop there. I'm not as familiar with the southern end of the NEC, but I think one or two platforms at Philadelphia are low, along with the lower level of Washington. That's not a problem though, since it's only for through trains which can't be electrified. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Jun 15 07:55:37 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Jun 15 06:06:05 2019. No need for long distance high speed rail as long as we have cheap air flightWADR this is thoroughly fallacious. Air travel over distances of less than 400 miles is inefficient as the aircraft spends a greater percentage of its time in climbout and descent, all while its pilots spend a larger percentage of their time communicating with terminal rather than en route air traffic controllers. Worse, the aircraft then necessarily experiences a lower utilization rate and occupies more valuable space at an airport. At the same time drivers and passengers have indicated their distate for automobile travel times of more than 3 hours That translates to somewhere between 150 and 200 miles depending on the driver's taste and traffic conditions. Taken together with air travel this leaves a massive torus in which high speed rail can link city pairs within emerging megaregions without the disruptions endemic to air and road travel. High speed rail can link cities separated by 200 to 400 miles with high capacity, clean, efficient transportation that beats airline door to door times. Let the private sector deal with the capital costs of long distance travel That might be a valid argument if the airlines used privately financed airports, but they don't. It might have some shred of veracity if we had a privately financed ATC network, but we don't, thankfully. This is just grasping for the subsidies you feel you benefit from while denying subsidies to emergent mode. Europe is a much smaller place than the USA . More city focused. If this argument had the slightest shred of validity air travel would be an abject failure in the US. The fact that air travel is overburdened to the point of failure ably demonstrates how utterly backward this appeal to density being required to support high speed rail actually is. After all, we're flying somewhere without our cars, so how can we possibly navigate our low-density cities and their suburban halos without our cars? The truth is that every high speed rail station in Europe I've come across has a rental car counter just like an airport. I've availed myself of their services from time to time. The last mile problem is an overblown and utterly fallacious line of argument. Even in Europe , high speed rail is expensive . It really isn't. I don't think I paid more than 50 euros for an AVE ticket on my last trip. Sure, last second fares might rise to a hundred or so euros, but last second air travel on the same corridors will be even more expensive. Air flight is quicker and cheaper between many destinations This is not true for most door to door trips. The ability of the same HST to serve both suburban and city center destinations without unduly increasing travel time minimizes trip times across the anchor city's metro area. An airport has to be displaced from the population center in order to function effectively. That displacement brings with it an onerous travel requirement from the city center and an even greater burden on those who find themselves in the suburbs opposite the airport. Passengers on high speed trains from city center or even peripheral stations begin their trip with a head start on airline passengers and the same is true at the destination. Rail can beat air travel for door to door trip times out to 400 miles. Boeing is developing a new medium range wide body planes that will eliminate much of the negatives of air travel In what way does the 797 reduce the amount of time the aircraft spends burning large quantities of fuel climbing to its cruise altitude? In what way does the 797 reduce the percentage of the flight a short (sub-500nm) spends talking to approach and departure controllers? It doesn't. It does nothing to "eliminate much of the negatives of air travel" at all. But that assumes the 797 will be operated on routes which compete with high speed rail. It will not. It is being built to replace the 757 and will be used on flights likely being greater than 1500nm in length. No serious high speed rail project proposes to build anything of that length. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 10:39:17 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Jun 15 03:17:20 2019. Ah, got it, thanks! |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 15 11:43:41 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 14 14:47:12 2019. Then so called "North River Tunnels” are technically under the Hudson. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 15 11:59:41 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by WillD on Sat Jun 15 07:55:37 2019. One of the main reasons I don’t travel by air anymore is due to the BS of having to go through the TSA screening process. It seems that if yo talk to 5 TSA agents you get 15 opinions about what is allowed nd what is not and if yo show one of them a specific printed directive about it they will argue it doesn’t apply to them. I used to describe a flight to Chicago as a 4 hour trip. One hour on the plane and three hours to get through the metal detector. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Jun 15 12:03:56 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Jun 15 03:17:20 2019. With that in mind, then Amtrak should be able to run the Autotrain into NYP by having longer trains of lower level cars that can fit under the overpasses and into the tunnels going into NY. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 15 12:47:58 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by randyo on Sat Jun 15 11:43:41 2019. That's just their name. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Jun 15 13:36:39 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 15 04:18:59 2019. The Channel Tunnel trains operated at 100mph. IINM my trip out of Waterloo way back in 2007 never topped 90mph until we reached HS1.When we say high speed rail it should be implicit that we're talking about operation well above 100mph. 125 or better is a good place to start, but really it should be operation at 186 to 200mph, with average speeds approaching 150mph to be truly competitive. That is the regime in which I am less than enthusiastic about the prospect of running a high speed train on 3rd rail. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 15 13:39:29 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 15 12:47:58 2019. No they go under the North River. LIRR Trains go under the East River, and if you really want to know, The South River is the Delaware River.ROARING |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 15 14:15:55 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by K. Trout on Sat Jun 15 07:18:17 2019. Track 1 in 30th Street Philly has low platforms, but they never use it. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jun 15 17:11:20 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 12 03:07:14 2019. The LIRR could surely use some coach cars to say the least... |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jun 15 20:50:28 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jun 15 17:11:20 2019. I don't think the cars can be adapted for regular locomotive-hauled trains, but if they can, the LIRR could use some of the "business class" cars as new parlor cars. :-) |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 16 14:17:01 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jun 15 13:39:29 2019. Well if those tubes go under the North River than so do the actually named “Hudson Tubes." |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 16 14:34:01 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 16 14:17:01 2019. The term "North River" means nothing outside the rail community. |
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Posted by Pragmatist on Sun Jun 16 14:57:41 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 16 14:34:01 2019. The North River WWTP (with Riverbank State Park on its roof) at 145th St is built onto the Hudson River. For whatever it is worth, the phrase hs life outside of our circles. (well, at least you can see it when you take Amtrak up the West Side) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jun 17 05:45:19 2019, in response to Re: CBS News, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Pragmatist on Sun Jun 16 14:57:41 2019. Henry Hudson sailed the Hudson River in the late 1500s. He was looing for a route to China.He was the one who opened the way to the Dutch settlement of New Amsterdam. These people called the big river "The North River" and the smaller channel "The East River". Hudson then went further north to find his passage to China, which he still did not find. Later, Perhaps when the English took over the colony the renamed the river "Hudson" ROAR |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Jun 17 08:03:02 2019, in response to Re: CBC news , new Acela trains, first look, posted by randyo on Sat Jun 15 12:03:56 2019. And where would they unload the cars? Auto train would have to terminate in NJ or Queens |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 28 08:24:47 2019, in response to Re: CBC news, new Acela trains, first look, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jun 12 16:42:50 2019. New Acela Trains Phila. InquirerJust a rehash of what we already know. |
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