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Posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:52:13 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. The G train, not the L train, mistake. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 13 17:40:57 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. Sucks. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:56:12 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. That means I don't think the R42's will last until summer, and they may get ruthless with some of the R32's by the time all R179's are in service. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Wed Feb 13 20:32:50 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Wed Feb 13 17:56:12 2019. Didn't the 42's just get SMS'd? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 13 22:28:00 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Ian Lennon on Wed Feb 13 20:32:50 2019. Yes, but didn't they scrap R30s only a couple years after GOH? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 14 00:00:06 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. Looks like speculation to me.Where did you receive your information,again? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 14 00:00:37 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. Looks like speculation to me.Where did you receive your information,again? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 14 00:00:42 2019, in response to G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Feb 13 13:51:40 2019. Looks like speculation to me.Where did you receive your information,again? |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Feb 14 04:07:50 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Feb 13 22:28:00 2019. Yes, they did. Here we go again with over scrapping. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 14 06:45:26 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Ian Lennon on Wed Feb 13 20:32:50 2019. That was only to get them through the Myrtle Cut shutdown with minimal maintenance. Their MDBF is still worse than the R32. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Feb 15 22:47:24 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Feb 14 04:07:50 2019. Deja vu all over again. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Sat Feb 16 01:31:30 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 14 00:00:06 2019. I saw it in an AM New York article on Wednesday. Ronnie Hakim had a phone briefing with reporters about plans to mitigate the partial L shutdown. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 06:52:35 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Sat Feb 16 01:31:30 2019. The weekend M trains will likely be running to 96th/2nd. We'll see if they make them 2PTO and 8 cars or not.(I remember 3 car GG trains on the Queens Blvd line). |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Feb 16 09:00:35 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Sat Feb 16 01:31:30 2019. Sometimes definitions get lost in translation. When it's said that longer G trains will not be run, they could mean no additional trains (shorter headways) being run. But additional cars (8/60' foot cars) could still be in plans.Let's see what happens by April 28th when the new pick/new schedules (if any) go into effect before we give up on seeing longer than 300' trains on the G. The t/o's and c/r's actually start picking these jobs on Feb. 25th. That will not show the # of cars on each G train, but if they scrap weekend/holiday OPTO it could present a hint. No way could they get away with 4/60' cars on that line. Hopefully some info about the L jobs will leak out too. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 11:03:19 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 06:52:35 2019. The weekend M trains will likely be running to 96th/2nd.The link Marc posted stated this. Why would they not be 8 car trains, from Metro Ave to 96/2? Hasn't it been decades since the last 4-car non-shuttle service? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 11:05:32 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Feb 16 09:00:35 2019. When it's said that longer G trains will not be run, they could mean no additional trains (shorter headways) being run. But additional cars (8/60' foot cars) could still be in plans.The L has been shut on many nights and weekends in the past 6 months. If they didn't need more G trains for those shutdowns, why would they need them for future shutdowns? (It would be different if they needed them weekdays just for additional traffic, but I assume you're not referring to that.) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:41:52 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 11:03:19 2019. I don't know what happens now when extended beyond Essex Street on weekends. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:43:14 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 11:05:32 2019. Did they do the Metrocard transfer form the G to the J on Broadway ? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 13:55:30 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:41:52 2019. 96/2. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:57:58 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 13:55:30 2019. How many cars ? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 14:55:32 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:57:58 2019. 8, as far as I know. We would know if it was 4. Sightings would have been reported. |
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Posted by joe c on Sat Feb 16 15:38:06 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 14:55:32 2019. They run 8-car trains to 96th St-2nd Av.til next time |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 19:13:01 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by AlM on Sat Feb 16 14:55:32 2019. It's to be weekends, so they don't need an expanded subway car fleet for that.Other than SAS reroute of the Q train, and the W train redux, which consumes about 5 more train sets, and possible full length C trains, which calls for 36 cars, they need to retain about 100 R32's after all the R179's are running without problems. I don't think the R42's will live to see summer. Any R32 that gives them a lot of trouble will be gone after that. |
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Posted by Chicago44 on Sat Feb 16 20:13:39 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 19:13:01 2019. I still think that all the R32 & R42 cars will be retired after the completion of the R179 car fleet order. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Sun Feb 17 12:07:43 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 13:43:14 2019. It isn't mentioned in the article so it may not be happening or it just might not have come up on the call. The article mentions a "shuttle bus service in a loop to bring riders to connect to the L and G at Metropolitan Avenue/Lorimer Street and the J and M at Marcy Avenue," which may serve a similar function as the transfer, reducing overcrowding at Bedford and at the Lorimer/Metropolitan transfer. I submitted a question about the transfer to the L Project Newsletter.I suspect that, as with the original plans for the full shutdown, they are going to have to be ready to make changes to the mitigation strategies once the work begins. I also suspect that the work they say they still plan to do at 6th and at Union Square may have to be changed because it would cause issues during weekdays when the L is running normally. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 17 13:16:10 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 16 19:13:01 2019. Honestly,they shouldn't retire anything else until the 211 are pressed into service and running without issue. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 17 14:09:04 2019, in response to Re: G trains will not be running longer trains., posted by Chicago44 on Sat Feb 16 20:13:39 2019. The R179 is a net add of 46 cars. They need fleet expansion more than that. |
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