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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 12 06:32:14 2018 Tuscarora Almanac - November 12, 1904 - The Book of First Runs Manhattan, New York Interborough Rapid Transit Company The Broadway Line is extended one station from 145th Street to 157th Street. Tuscarora Almanac – November 12, 1935 – The Book of First and Last Runs Manhattan, New York New York Railways The Eighth Avenue Streetcar Line is converted to bus operation. This route began service as the Eighth Avenue Horse Car Line in 1855. The last operator of streetcars was New York Railways. Bus service will be run by the Eighth Avenue Coach Corporation as the M-10. Source: New York Division Bulletin /September 1989, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – November 12, 1961 – The Book of Last Runs Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Port Authority Transit Route 18 Woods Run streetcar line is abandoned. Source: “Pittsburgh Trolleys in Color” (Morning Sun Books /2013) by Mr. Edward A. Ridolph Tuscarora Almanac – November 12, 2012 – The Book of First Runs Rockaway Park, Queens, New York Seastreak, Inc. Seastreak Inc. begins operation of the Rockaway Ferry. The service will run between Pier 11 on the East River and Beach 108th Street in the Rockaways and will include a stop at the Brooklyn Army Terminal. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 08:15:45 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 12 06:32:14 2018. I have a question regarding the 1989 New York Division Bulletin article about the 1935 "motorization" of the Eighth Avenue streetcar line. I know June 1, 1956 was the effective date the route was run by Fifth Avenue Coach Lines Inc., but on what day in November 1951 was New York City Omnibus Corporation listed as taking over operation from Eighth Avenue Coach? |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Nov 12 09:13:35 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 12 06:32:14 2018. The official NYC Bureau of Franchises number of the Eight Avenue bus route was M-41. NYC Omnibus Corp.owner of Eighth Avenue Coach Corp assigned its own route number as 10.The current route designation is M-10. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 12 09:59:26 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by northshore on Mon Nov 12 09:13:35 2018. The route was formerly M-10 but was split into M-10 and M-20 in 1998. |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 11:18:34 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by northshore on Mon Nov 12 09:13:35 2018. At the same time (c.1935) the BoF assigned M-41 to the Eighth Avenue route (and M-42 to what EAC/NYCO ran as 11, Ninth and Amsterdam Avenues which was also "motorized" on this date), they also assigned franchise numbers for two more short extensions for FACCo routes: M-43 - West 57th Street and 12th Avenue (which led to their 20 - 57th Street Crosstown route's extension west from Columbus Circle to 55th Street and 12th Avenue in 1937) and M-44 - Lewisohn Stadium (used on special runs of Routes 3 and 5 in the summertime during summer concerts there). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 12 11:29:36 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 11:18:34 2018. Didn’t the 3 Convent branch already stop at Lewisohn Stadium as part of its normal route? |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 12:05:36 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 12 11:29:36 2018. Well, yeah, since about the 1910's - but of course the BoF had to get involved, didn't they? And of course, after all the Manhattan TARS streetcar routes were converted to buses under STS in 1946-47, the M-100, M-101 and M-104 stopped at or around the Stadium.On the BusChat thread, I will soon be posing a question to all you experts as to buses to Lewisohn in their last years of summer concerts - which also were the first four years of MaBSTOA. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Nov 12 12:22:23 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 12 06:32:14 2018. Not the 8th avenue line, but close.   
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Nov 12 13:00:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 08:15:45 2018. Have you tried BusChat? I cannot find anything for that takeover in Nov, 1951. Most of the news, at that time, centered around labor disputes to reduce the bus drivers to a 40 hour week. |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 14:23:36 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Nov 12 13:00:07 2018. I had entered a Bus Almanac in BusChat ('W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 8th') detailing what was touted by the newspapers as a "merger" of NYC Omnibus with Madison Avenue Coach and Eighth Avenue Coach as approved by the PSC on Nov. 8, 1951 and dated effective Nov. 1, 1951 for accounting purposes (never mind that, as the proper period of time had passed by then, it was "okay" for NYC Omnibus to have ALL its routes under that one umbrella, as opposed to a total of four lines under those "subsidiaries"). But I presume the late Mr. Linder's article on the Eighth Avenue line (as cited by 'IRTRedbirdR33' as his source) would have had a date somewhere between that . . . |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Nov 12 14:47:09 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Nov 12 12:22:23 2018. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Nov 12 17:10:50 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 08:15:45 2018. WB: I have printed out this post and will get back to you. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Nov 12 18:50:25 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 12:05:36 2018. FACCO Route 3 via Convent Avenue did not start until 1939 |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 22:30:02 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by northshore on Mon Nov 12 18:50:25 2018. That route portion was assigned M-32 (as Morningside and Convent Avenues) by the Bureau of Franchises in late 1933. That was one of 14 franchises of short extensions granted by them to FACCo. (The St. Nicholas portion of the route was franchised as M-28.) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Nov 13 01:26:11 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Nov 12 12:22:23 2018. yes, thanks for finding these and posting them. Wonder what year the last one was taken? Don't see any kind of motorized transportationn at all. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 13 17:25:02 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 08:15:45 2018. WB: I can not give you an exact date except that it happened in 1951. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 13 17:25:22 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by W.B. on Mon Nov 12 08:15:45 2018. WB: I can not give you an exact date except that it happened in 1951. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by W.B. on Tue Nov 13 17:57:42 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 12, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 13 17:25:22 2018. It was certainly in November, that we're in agreement. |
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