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Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:49:31 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:14:20 2018. And? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:50:16 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:16:41 2018. Any such split was likely long after FFS closed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:50:49 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:18:09 2018. Weird. I thought that wasn’t allowed back then. I retract my prior post. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:51:12 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 01:50:16 2018. Retracted |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 4 03:15:42 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:22:59 2018. I was under the impression that the approach from Marcy Ave. to the Willy B was one of those sharp turns too tight for 75' cars. |
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Posted by FtgreeneG on Sun Nov 4 03:16:26 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Nov 3 23:11:17 2018. Towers still use those names communicating with trains. Specifically Stillwell Master and Murphy Tower. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 4 03:26:06 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 4 03:15:42 2018. yes. I think it's the "center excess" of some of the 75' cars that were a problem.They ran some 75' trains with articulated centers to see where they would contact other trains, signals, buildings, etc......They are photos of the train at ENY. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 4 06:59:54 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:16:41 2018. It is a very long run.The CTA 151, which I think of as the Chicago equivalent of the Q32, is also split between 2 depots. The ones that turn back at Belmont are from Kedzie. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 4 07:04:30 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 3 19:46:04 2018. 10' wide cars have fit since 1915 on the Eastern Division. Why would they want to cut back to 9' ?Montague is what has the tight clearances and can no longer handle a 1960's SMEE car. That's a Southern Division issue anyway. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 4 07:35:37 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 4 01:18:09 2018. I remember the old way, but they don't show the 32 on the local route listing for MJQ at present, That's why I was questioning it. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 4 08:41:21 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 3 16:21:40 2018. Ah, OK. Thanks! I'm just thinking about the time we had manual drafting and we were simply asked to redraw a set of drawing details to built a flatbed trailer , designed by another company.The piece of web that tapers up from the deep section of the frame to the smaller front section where the tractor fits under got me in trouble. The boss over my boss reamed me out I his office in front of my boss. "This part does not fit!!! I answered back , "Joe , all we were told to do was redraw the set of drawings!". He yells at me "You are the engineer"..... (They had to make all new webs, at considerable expense:) I kept my job, after a scary day. So in retrospect, if we would have been allowed to make scale model assembly drawings, we could have seen the error, and better yet, with 3-D modeling, the combination of parts would not have mated! It's nice to be retired and laugh about all of this. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 4 08:44:06 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 4 08:41:21 2018. He yells at me "You are the engineer"That doesn't mean you're the decision-maker. If you're told to design a whole new trailer, that's a different story. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 4 11:07:44 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 4 03:26:06 2018. What is an "articulated center"? If the car bends in the middle, it is effectively two 37.5' cars, no? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 4 11:15:41 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by FtgreeneG on Sun Nov 4 03:16:26 2018. ...& I almost forgot "Brighton" |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 4 11:18:02 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 3 15:40:42 2018. For a short while the Q32 route was the QM15, up from just Q15 since AFAIK there already was an M15 |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 4 11:40:41 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 4 11:07:44 2018. ???Is an articulated bus one bus or two? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 4 12:49:47 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 4 11:18:02 2018. Must have been very short. I remember the Q32 being the M32 for years. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 4 13:37:57 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 3 22:00:25 2018. The old names are still popular...still used on various lines.The J/Z will ALWAYS be known as the JAMAICA LINE.. The SeaBeach,Culver,Brighton and West End will ALWAYS keep those names regardless of what route operates over it. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 4 13:52:26 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 28 12:26:34 2018. You ALWAYS seem to forget the REASON why such things occur simply to make YOUR point.What about the collision between 2 steam engines near Grand Central? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 4 14:09:45 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 3 05:15:49 2018. I can't stand government overreach. That was not accident, shit happens. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 15:48:53 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 4 13:37:57 2018. The division names are the ones that are dead. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 4 16:59:59 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 4 14:09:45 2018. LOL |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 4 17:05:32 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 15:48:53 2018. Internally, still called A, B1, B2 ? |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sun Nov 4 17:34:34 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 4 17:05:32 2018. And there are STILL people who refer to them as the BMT, IND and IRT. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Nov 4 17:47:18 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sun Nov 4 17:34:34 2018. i am one of them also.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 4 17:56:16 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sun Nov 4 17:34:34 2018. Good for them. Those people are all old enough to be in Fox News key demo. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 4 18:23:58 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 4 11:40:41 2018. question remains is it two cars on that one bus? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 4 18:40:04 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Nov 4 18:23:58 2018. Depends who and when you ask. Legally one, as an operating unit, but mfrs use 1.5 when they calculate units of backlog. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 4 19:00:44 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 4 11:40:41 2018. Buses aren't normally coupled together, train cars are.Regardless, I'm confused as to how an "articulated center" in a train car helps test the ability of a non-articulated car of the same length to run on a line. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 4 22:56:19 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 4 14:09:45 2018. You let government take over stuff, then overreach has already happened. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Mon Nov 5 06:30:15 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 28 12:26:34 2018. Moses was all about transit—road transitOh, I didn't realize he was a supporter of buses. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 06:37:55 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by fdtutf on Mon Nov 5 06:30:15 2018. Only to Jones Beach |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 5 10:07:33 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by fdtutf on Mon Nov 5 06:30:15 2018. What do buses run on? The same infrastructure as cars and trucks. Whatever the fate of buses, it was tied to what his bosses decided; he made the infrastructure for that mode though. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 10:36:39 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 5 10:07:33 2018. Did he ? Ever been on Robert Moses parkway in Brooklyn, Queens, or Long Island ? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 11:57:25 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 5 10:07:33 2018. Moses built his original parkway network with bridges too low for buses which made it very difficult for those without cars. No easy way to get to places like Jones Beach. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 14:19:05 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 11:57:25 2018. baloney. from merrick road south, there are no bridges over both parkways. any bus from any part of brooklyn can easily access jones beach. take conduit boulevard. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 14:27:57 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 14:19:05 2018. So why this sign on Merrick Road?No commercial vehicles. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 14:46:08 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 14:19:05 2018. The Conduit and Sunrise Highway to the Meadowbrook Pkwy takes a ridiculous amount of time with all the lights. That would not be a viable way for a bus to get to Jones Beach. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 5 14:53:32 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 14:27:57 2018. Except local delivery. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 15:54:29 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 14:46:08 2018. not that long. considering belt parkway traffic the difference is minor. and even if true, so what? an extra twenty minutes? consider how long it takes for someone going to coney island from, say, fordham road and grand concourse, or pitkin avenue by subway. bus via atlantic avenue to conduit to sunrise would take less time. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 16:04:09 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 14:27:57 2018. means nothing. if buses can go from freeport to jones beach they can also come out from nyc. obviously, an exception is being made for buses. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 16:07:02 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 16:04:09 2018. obviously, an exception is being made for buses.Is it? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 16:10:17 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 15:54:29 2018. Rosedale to just Lynbrook can take a half hour. No bus service that way is viable regardless of how long it takes from the Bronx. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 16:11:09 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 16:04:09 2018. You take the LIRR to Freeport and catch a bus. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 17:50:07 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 16:07:02 2018. they have to get down there somehow... |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 17:52:32 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 5 16:11:09 2018. yep. proves that buses can get to the beach. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 5 18:51:00 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 4 03:26:06 2018. The only 75 ft cars I remember being tested were the stretch R-1/9s with the feelers in the center that were used to check clearances for the R-44s. If there are any photos. where are they? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 5 19:25:37 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 16:04:09 2018. I don’t think that buses are technically considered “commercial vehicles” which is why in locations were buses don’t clear signs specifically say “No trucks or buses." |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 20:05:03 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 16:04:09 2018. No, there are a few bridges that have been raised over the years to allow that Freeport to Jones Beach run. They can not come out from the city. There was a terrible bus accidentbetween JFK and Valley Stream a few months back with a bus hitting a low bridge. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 5 20:10:40 2018, in response to Re: Tour of East Side Abscess New LIRR Terminal Taking Shape Beneath Grand Central Terminal, posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 5 14:19:05 2018. That is not an easy run, everyone knows what Moses did and why. |
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