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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 7 14:29:27 2018 Tuscarora Almanac - October 7, 1933 - The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York Independent Subway System The IND South Brooklyn Line is extended from Bergen Street to Church Avenue. Stations are opened at Carroll Street, Smith - 9th Streets, 4th Avenue, 7th Avenue, 15th Street - Prospect Park, Fort Hamilton Parkway and Church Avenue. Source: New York Division / Bulletin December 1976. Tuscarora Almanac – October 7, 1957 – The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority IND Division “D” trains will now be inspected at the Pitkin Avenue Shops. Four “D” trains in the AM rush will run from 205th Street to Euclid Avenue. They will run northbound during the PM rush. These trains will operate via the Fulton Street Line express tracks. Source: New York Division Bulletin /October 1968, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – October 7, 2002 – The Book of Last Runs The Bronx, New York New York City Transit Authority IRT Division The last R26s and R28s are removed from service from the 5 line in a mixed train with GE R29s. Consist is (N)7819-7818-7846-7847-7939-7938-7863-7862-8786-8787(S). Built in 1959-1960, the R26s and R28s were the last passenger equipment built by ACF, at the Berwick, Pennsylvania assembly plant. They were rebuilt by Morrison Knudsen in 1985-1987. Source: New York Division Bulletin / November 2002 This article was written by Mr. Kevin Wong Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 7 16:12:07 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 7 14:29:27 2018. The Miracle Mets wrapped up the NL pennant on this date in 1969, completing a three-game sweep of the Braves in the new NLCS format. Nolan Ryan came on in relief of Gary Gentry in third inning with the Mets trailing and was the winning pitcher. The 7 line probably hadn't seen this much October ridership since the World's Fair closed. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 7 17:42:24 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 7 14:29:27 2018. I remember the Euclid Ds. Often on my way to college in the 1960s, I would get one of them at 59 St in the AM. In those days the IND still had swing runs so I would imagine that the crews operated S/B in the AM, swung till the afternoon and returned N/B in the PM. In the days of the swings it was common for the midday swing to be at locations other than the home reporting terminal. A M/M I knew once worked a job that reported at Hudson Terminal in the AM operated N/B on a CC, returned S/B on a D to Church Ave, swung till the PM operated a N/B D from Stl to 205, S/B to Bed Pk and on a S/B CC back to Hudson Terminal to clear. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 7 20:05:50 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 7 16:12:07 2018. Um:The Jets were playing home games at Shea then. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 7 20:37:03 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 7 16:12:07 2018. I didn't watch the NLCS, so I didn't know about Ryan's win. Ironically, Ryan also relieved Gentry in game 3 of the World Series, but this time, Gary pitched long enough to get the win, and Nolan got a save. That was the first baseball game I ever watched that I was actually interested in. I got to see all 3 games at Shea on TV since I was sick with a sore throat (I actually felt better for Game 5, but I wasn't going to miss that, so I told my mom I should probably give it one more day. Fortunately, my grandmother was able to come over to saty with me while my mother was at work. Those were great times! It kicked off an obsession with baseball for me throughout the 1970 season. And 48 years later, I can't remember the last time I watched a baseball game for more than an inning (and I haven't been to one since 2011). |
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Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sun Oct 7 23:29:51 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 7 20:05:50 2018. The Jets were *not* at home/Shea in 1969 until Monday October 20 - they played the first five games on the road because the Mets were in the postseason. The Jets always took a backseat to the Mets during their time at Shea/the Mets had a clause in the stadium agreement giving them priority occupancy. The Mets were afraid of the grass field being torn up due to football, and as a result, the Jets couldn't play at home until the Mets season had finished - in 1969 the baseball season ended on Thursday October 16. |
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OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sun Oct 7 23:29:51 2018. Point was, the Jets *did* play football games in October at Shea after the Mets season ended. Steve's post said it had not seen that level of activity in October since the World's Fair closed.I do remember reading that about the Jets not being allowed to play home games until the Mets season ended, and for good reason: Grass fields back then were very poorly maintained and often fizzled completely and became dirt by the time December rolled around (the famed 1958 NFL Championship "Greatest Game Ever Played" was played on what by then was a dirt field at Yankee Stadium). The Jets only were finally allowed to play September home games at Shea in the final years there starting with the 1980 season (after one home game was actually moved to Giants Stadium in 1977). In 1969, the Jets actually played seven straight home games after the Mets season ended and in 1973 (when the Mets again made the World Series), one home game had to be moved to Pittsburgh because Shea was needed for baseball and the original Yankee Stadium had closed to begin work on its rebuild. That was why many stadiums starting in the late 1960's went to AstroTurf after the successful test case at the AstroDome. It was only when Prescription Athletic Turf came about in the early 1980's (the 49ers were the first team to go from AstroTurf to grass in the NFL for the 1979 season after the baseball Giants became the first MLB team to return to grass). |
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Posted by zac on Mon Oct 8 04:41:43 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 7 16:12:07 2018. And I was there. And I was there the following week when they won in game 5. I waited in line at Shea to buy tickets to both games when they went on sale. |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Oct 8 13:51:20 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 7 17:42:24 2018. When were swings eliminated? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 8 15:06:54 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by BusRider on Mon Oct 8 13:51:20 2018. For the most part with the opening of Chrystie St in November 1967 although since the IRT picks normally did not go into effect at the same time as the BMT and IND the IRT change might have been a bit earlier or later. What was interesting about the way it went in is that the C/R division of TWU dis not OK the agreement at the same time as the M/M so the C/Rs retained swings a bit longer, I think till the next pick in the spring of 1968. The BMT was the first division to do away with the swings and I never recall seeing any swing jobs on the BMT as early as 1960 except for certain platform C/R jobs that were set aside for 2nd position C/Rs who never qualified as C/Rs in charge. On the IND and IRT, switchmen (Yd M/M) were used to lay up and put in trains whereas on the BMT road crews would put their own trains in before the rush and lay them up after. As originally instituted, the putin/layup tasks known as “T/C” for transfer cars took the place of one of the road trips that would be made by crews without T/C. Thus on the Brighton Exp on which the normal complement of runs was 3 round trips to 57 St, a crew with T/C would do a put in and 2 trips, 2 trips and a layup or in some cases a layup or put in between the 2 trips but never the full 3 trips and any sort of T/C. In many cases if an arriving crew had something like 2 hours of T/C at the end of a run, the crew would just lay up the train and the Yd/mast would not expect any more work from the crew and so the crew got an early break. This concept delighted the IRT and IND crews who voted overwhelmingly for the change since it was a package deal that combined the institution of runs with T/C and the elimination of the swings. Also the changes over the years that no longer required NYCTS employees to live in NY City meant that it was not as convenient for an employee who lived in the suburbs to go home midday and return in the afternoon the way it was back when many employees lived in walking distance or a reasonable travel distance from their reporting locations. In any case when the swing runs were eliminated and runs with T/C were instituted most employees were pleased. Due to conflicts withe interpretation of the term T/C, that section of the work programs was changed to “WAA” or work as assigned. Over the years primarily due to the increase in allowed overall work time, many of the trips that had WAA in lieu of a trip now included the full complement of trips per line with the WAA a s either a put in or layup in addition, not exactly in the spirit of what the crews voted for in 1967. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 15:21:34 2018, in response to OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018. The worst year for Shea - and maybe any stadium ever - was 1975, when somehow all FOUR MLB/NFL teams here called Shea 'home. The Giants has played in the Yale Bowl the two years before, but what happened, I think |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 8 15:38:23 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 15:21:34 2018. I remember that year - Shea took a beating. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 8 16:16:00 2018, in response to OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018. 
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 8 18:25:46 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 8 15:38:23 2018. An awful beating at that. But the four teams got by. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 8 18:27:58 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 8 16:16:00 2018. There was talk of enclosing the open end to increase the seating capacity to 80,000 as well as putting a roof over the field. An engineering study determined the stadium pilings would not support the added weight of a roof. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 8 18:30:59 2018, in response to OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018. IIRC the Jets played on Monday, October 20, 1969 - four days after the field was torn to shreds by delirious fans. It got torn up again because the new sod hadn't had a chance to take root yet. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 8 18:32:10 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 7 20:05:50 2018. Senior moment... |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 19:26:47 2018, in response to OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018. The worst year for Shea - and maybe any stadium ever - was 1975, when somehow all FOUR MLB/NFL teams here called Shea 'home. The Giants has played in the Yale Bowl the two years before, but what happened, I think |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 19:41:29 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 19:26:47 2018. oops - what happened, was that they got word that their stadium in the Meadowlands was not going to be ready for them too late to make the Yale Bowl arrangements in time. They ended up playing a Saturday game, and I think the Mets got 'convinced' to let to let each team play a game earlier than normal..if you can dredge up a 'This Week in the NFL' from the last two weeks of the season, you will see the 'field' was nothing but dirt.And the Yankees g=had a 'home' game for the 4th of July, and the Army unit they had for the ceremonies accidentally blew holes in the outfield fence! Shea aged about 10 years in that one year! |
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Posted by BusRider on Mon Oct 8 20:55:38 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 8 15:06:54 2018. Interesting, always appreciate your historical insight. During that time, were there more employees to cover this service to provide swings or were headways more spread out compared to today so creating runs were smoother? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 8 23:36:41 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by BusRider on Mon Oct 8 20:55:38 2018. Since rush hour headways were closer than midday headways, those crews who operated in the rush hour were not needed midday which is why the swung till the PM. With the elimination of swings, there were actually a few more crews needed since they would be on T/C (or WAA) time post rush and they would no longer be available to cover the PM rush hence new reporting crews required to cover PM rush hour trips. It wasn’t necessarily a complete 1 for 1 ad the crews now covering the put ins and layups would mean that some of the switching jobs that formerly covered them could be eliminated.could be eliminated. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 00:03:38 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 8 18:27:58 2018. Maybe that should have been discussed before the stadium was built. |
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Posted by BusRider on Tue Oct 9 06:29:11 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 8 23:36:41 2018. Obviously, it varies by location. But, How long does it take to do a put-in/layup? Unlike with buses, Where operators may receive 5-15 minutes on each end or their runs depending on transit agency to conduct a pre/post-trip inspection. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Oct 9 07:03:33 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 00:03:38 2018. Domed stadiums were not considered important in that era. It was the time when everyone was building round, cantilevered (no columns) stadiums to replace the old stadiums. Many of them were used for baseball and football. Most of them are gone now. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:38:10 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by pragmatist on Tue Oct 9 07:03:33 2018. Yep, that was the era of cookie cutter, multi-purpose stadiums. Shea was the first, followed by Busch Memorial Stadium, Municipal Stadium in Atlanta, Riverfront Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium and Veteran's Stadium. None of these venues exist anymore. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:41:19 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 7 20:37:03 2018. Tommie Agee was the hero of Game 3. He led off the game with a home run just left of center, then made two spectacular catches to save five runs. Speaking of Ryan, that was his only World Series appearance. He struck out Paul Blair to end the game on a curve ball that even he admits was probably the best curve he ever threw. It just froze Blair. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:42:36 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 8 23:36:41 2018. IINM Kev, may he rest in peace, worked a swing. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:43:57 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by zac on Mon Oct 8 04:41:43 2018. Good for you! I got home from school just in time to catch the ninth inning of Game 5, then was late for a drum lesson because I watched the postgame interviews. I still remember it as though it were yesterday. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:46:57 2018, in response to OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Oct 8 03:20:07 2018. Field turf has become the choice of artificial turf now. Astroturf had its downsides: hot when it got warm, hard surface, no give. Then you had its lookalikes: Tartanturf, Polyturf, All-Pro Turf. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 14:27:42 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:42:36 2018. Unless Kev was in RTO before 1967, he never worked a swing. What year did he start? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 14:31:37 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:38:10 2018. Yet the NY Giants football team played in both the Polo Grounds and the Yankee Stadium. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:41:38 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Oct 8 15:21:34 2018. I actually remember that infamous year of 1975 where Shea's grass took a beating with all four teams playing there.Why for instance Columbia's Baker Field could not have undergone a temporary expansion for the Jets and Giants to play there was never explored in retrospect. That would have been better than having all four teams at Shea. Ironically, I did a blog after Duke Snider died a number of years ago asking how different things would have been if the Dodgers had instead of moving to LA stayed in Brooklyn and waited out Moses (likely as part of a multi-ownership swap with the Griffiths got the Giants and moved them to the Twin Cities as the Giants were intending to do anyway, the O'Malleys getting the original Senators and moving THEM to LA and Horace Stronhem getting the Dodgers and having them play 1-2 years in the Polo Grounds while Ebbets Field was renovated to where the Dodgers could play there until most likely 1972-'73 when the domed stadium the O'Malleys envinsioned could be built where the Barclays Center is now). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:45:28 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:38:10 2018. Actually, the first was DC Stadium that opened in 1962 and was built for the second Washington Senators, which is still in use as RFK Stadium more than 20 years after the Redskins left for FedEx Field in Landover.Shea was the next such to open. As far as building a domed stadium, no one ever tried it to that point. The Astrodome was an experiment with such. |
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Re: OT: Artificial Turf |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:51:12 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:46:57 2018. Right:The University of Washington began using it when they put it down on their home field I believe around 1994 and the Seahawks became the first NFL team to play on that while the Kingdome was undergoing repairs and again after the Kingdome was imploded in early 2000 while Quest Field was being built (regardless of when, the Univ. of Washington was the first to install it). Phillies and Eagles had NexTurf for their final years in The Vet (2001-'03 for the Phillies and '02 for the Eagles). |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:58:05 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:41:38 2018. Adding:If the Dodgers had indeed stayed in New York, what I suspect would have happened was this: After Ebbets Field is renovated, the then-Titans of New York/Jets likely play 1-2 season at Ebbets Field, Yankee Stadium or some combination of both while the Polo Grounds is converted to a football-only stadium and state of the art (for 1964-'66). Shea is never built as once the Dodgers are allowed to build the Domed stadium at the Atlantic Yards, that is built in the early '70s, however, it is possible by the late 1980's, especially after the Yankees are wooed by New Jersey to play in a stadium there, Leon Hess looks to have the Jets play in a new stadium or do what actually did happen with their moving across the Hudson. That might have prompted by then the building of a new stadium where Shea was at Willets point for football that would have had all the luxury boxes and things that by then were coming en vogue. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 15:07:05 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:58:05 2018. I suspect that if the Dodgers had remained in Bkln, the NY Mets would never have existed since even with the departure of the Giants (which Stoneham wanted to do anyhow) NY would have still had 2 major league baseball teams, one National League and one American League. As for football, I can’t say for sure, but with the founding of the AFL, its NY team the Titans would probably have retained their original name since there would have been no baseball team for it to rhyme with. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 9 16:04:06 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:41:38 2018. Lol |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 9 16:04:22 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:58:05 2018. Hahahaha |
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Re: OT: Artificial Turf |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 18:58:21 2018, in response to Re: OT: Artificial Turf, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:51:12 2018. IINM Oregon has an Omniturf field. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Oct 9 20:02:20 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:46:57 2018. Poly Turf was the WORST - and was on display for several agonizing long years at the Orange Bowl in Miami. In fact, the Orange Bowl was one of the first to go back to a regular grass turf field. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Oct 9 20:10:19 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 9 08:43:57 2018. I was lucky - my 5th grade teacher was a Mets fan, and he grabbed one of the school TVs, so saw most of Games 4&5 - especially since I only live a block or so from the school... |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 20:10:39 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Oct 9 20:02:20 2018. They were the first, followed a year later by Candelstick Park. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 20:18:46 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by randyo on Tue Oct 9 15:07:05 2018. Right!My thing assumes the Mets never existed. In my scenario the original Senators move to LA with Walter o'Malley as owner (and most likely taking the Angels name), the Giants move to the Twin Cities with the Griffith family taking over ownership, the Dodgers remain with Stroneham as owner and the San Francisco Seals of the Pacific Coast League get promoted to the American League as part of an expansion that includes the replacement Senators team in Washington, while the 1962 expansion in the National League happens with the NL adding their own team in LA plus the Houston Colt .45s/Astros, though that might also have been earlier. |
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Re: OT: Shea Stadium |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 9 21:22:11 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 20:18:46 2018. If this is any insight to your fantasy train planning scenarios I really understand you're nuttiness now. 😂 |
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Re: OT: Artificial Turf |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Oct 9 23:36:44 2018, in response to Re: OT: Artificial Turf, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 14:51:12 2018. Yep, 1994 for Seahawks games at UW field. I remember that because that was the site of one of the NFL's 99-yard TD passes. San Diego Chargers QB Stan Humphries to WR Tony Martin. The one and only year the Chargers went to the Super Bowl. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 10 21:12:41 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Oct 9 20:02:20 2018. It didn't last long, that's for sure. Before Super Bowl X, they had to stitch it up because it was so worn by then. IIRC the Orange Bowl was one of the first stadiums to install Prescription Athletic Turf. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 10 21:13:20 2018, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Oct 9 20:10:39 2018. The 49ers went back to grass to preserve O. J.'s knees. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 10 21:20:29 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Oct 9 20:10:19 2018. We weren't allowed to bring radios to school. Our principal promised they would announce score updates and they only did so once during Game 4. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Jan 8 12:07:31 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for October 7, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Oct 7 14:29:27 2018. Can you provide the title for the New York Division Bulletin /October 1968, article by Mr. Bernard Linder? Thanks. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jan 8 15:14:19 2019, in response to Re: OT: Shea Stadium, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Oct 10 21:13:20 2018. Actually, I believe the Baseball Giants wanted a return to grass, which was given up when the 49ers moved in for the 1971 season.Even when grass first was re-installed in Candlestick, there was big problems with the field, especially during the "rainy season." I remember a 1980 game against the Bills and another one the following season where all the players had mud all over the place. They had to do a TON of work on the field just to get it in shape for the 1981 playoffs (early January 1982). The field took a beating just in the playoff game for the 49ers against the Giants and they really worked again to get it ready for the NFC Title game against the Cowboys ("The Catch" game). |
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