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Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon May 21 07:16:04 2018




Tuscarora Almanac – May 21, 1931 – The Book of First Runs

Brooklyn, New York
Brooklyn Manhattan Transit Corporation

Platforms on the Culver Line are cut back to allow for the operation of ten foot wide steel subway cars.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /May 2000, article by Mr. Bernard Linder



Tuscarora Almanac - May 21, 1967 - The Book of Homecomings

Manhattan, New York
Shore Line Trolley Museum

Third Avenue Railways System trolley car # 629 finally returned to New York today after taking a sixteen year detour to Vienna, Austria, where she was known as # 4239. The car was on display on top of a flatbed trailer in Central Park. She had served on the Third Avenue Railway System from 1939 to 1949 and then was shipped to Vienna. She returns today to go to a new home at the Shoreline Trolley Museum in East Haven, Connecticut.
To the best of my knowledge she is still active at Shoreline where she is an integral part of the operating fleet.




Tuscarora Almanac - May 21, 1988 - The Book of Wrecks

Fairlawn, New Jersey
Conrail / New Jersey Transit Rail Operations


Two Conrail freight trains have a head-on collision at the "Broadway-Fair Lawn" station, Bergen County Line of New Jersey Transit. The westbound train had two engines and twenty seven cars while the eastbound train was a local out of Suffern. The engineer of the Suffern train, a Mr. F.W. Clinton was on the ground switching cars and was killed.


Source: New York Division Bulletin / July 1988

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 21 08:09:47 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon May 21 07:16:04 2018.

The TARS home-built fleet was an interesting class, and had their own distinctive style, right down to the unique operating controls. To operate these cars, you depressed the brake valve with your foot, and made applications while raising your foot on the pedal. After a little getting used to, that method of operation was surprisingly easy. I operated this car at BERA in the late 1990s as a volunteer, along with the Toronto Peter Witt, ConnCo 775, and BRT 4573. Of them all, 629 was, and still is, my favorite m

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by randyo on Mon May 21 15:38:02 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon May 21 07:16:04 2018.

Since the Culver el structure was part of the dual contracts, its surprising that the platforms weren’t built for 10 ft wide cars initially, since the BRT probably had no service plan in place as to which services would operate over it. I’m sure that the rebuilt portions of the Fulton St, Myrtle, and Jamaica els were built for steel cars from the start.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 16:10:26 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by randyo on Mon May 21 15:38:02 2018.

Remember, that 10 foot wide BMT 4th Ave-Nassau trains did not start operation until May 30th, 1931. From May 1st, 1920-May 30th, 1931, 5th Ave-Culver gate cars operated to Coney Island. The service on the Nassau Loop began around 12 Noon on 5/30/31. All Culver el trains were then terminated at the Sands St Loop on that date and time.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by randyo on Mon May 21 16:26:22 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 16:10:26 2018.

That is actually what happened, but at the time the Culver was built, due to the track connections at 9 Av it was possible for BMT subway trains to access the Culver so the company had to be prepared for any eventuality. Prior to the opening of Nassau St, West End lcls terminated at City Hall on the Bway Subway so if the BRT/BMT had wanted, it could have operated the Culver the same way even though it didn’t.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 18:12:55 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 16:10:26 2018.

True, but not building it to subway dimensions prevented any BMT steel cars from using the line at any time. This seems like poor planning to me. Gate cars could still operate from subway platforms.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 21 18:30:50 2018, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 16:10:26 2018.

Were there any runs at all from Park Row, over the Brooklyn Bridge, then on to the Fifth Avenue El eventually going to either Bay Ridge or Coney Island?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 21

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 21 18:48:05 2018, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for May 21, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon May 21 07:16:04 2018.

And to think I was in the city on May 21, 1967 (at the Museum of Natural History) and didn't know about 629. I recall it was a rainy day and my father went to Brooklyn on the BMT to visit his ailing cousin, who'd been hospitalized with asthma. My mother and sister took an AA from 42nd to 81st and were treated to n/b A and D trains ripping past at full speed. My father joined us at the museum after his visit and said the train he was on sat at one of the bridge approaches. Had to be an N or QB. That put the kebosh on any nonessential subway riding. We took an AA back to PABT and that was it. It was either on this Sunday or two weeks before that we were side by side with a s/b D at one point, its Coney Island side signs illuminated.

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