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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018 Pelham Bay line by Westchester Yard. If you look between the cross ties, you'll see a south bound #6 train. Possibly a R 26-29 type car.(July 1981) #2 line at 241st St-WPR in the Redbird days. Plane taking off from LaGuardia in photo (November 15, 1992) Setting sun shines on R-32 (M) at Brighton Beach (November 1980) R-27/30 (M) at Forest Ave station. Note color sign on end bulkhead. (December 1980) Wall st. station with white birds zooming by. (April 1983) NY Cross Harbor car float angles into docks at the Brooklyn Army terminal. Aboard are freshly rebuilt R-32's, returning from Morrison-Knudsen. (April 1988) Photographed at Broadway-Myrtle Ave, but I turned around and photographed toward Broadway Jct. Signal chaining number is illuminated by headlight of train on center track. (December 3, 1988) And finally, somewhere on the #7 line, though the exact location escapes me. The Manhattan skyline bathes in a sea of orange. (April 1990)
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Wed Mar 21 17:02:15 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* more nice pix, yay!
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Wed Mar 21 17:17:07 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Mar 21 17:02:15 2018.* Just wow!
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Posted by Mitch45* on Wed Mar 21 17:46:42 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Mar 21 17:02:15 2018.* Great work!! I miss the "Wall Street' pillar signs in the "old west" motif.
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Posted by kp5308* on Wed Mar 21 17:46:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 21 17:17:07 2018.* Good 'uns :o)
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Mar 21 17:52:54 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Great pics. Thanks for Sharing!! BTW I'll make an uneducated guess that the last picture of the Flushing Line is looking west twoards the 61st Woodside Sta from the 69th st Fisk Ave Sta.
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Posted by randyo* on Wed Mar 21 18:04:31 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 21 17:52:54 2018.* That could be accurate since there appears to be a home ball at danger in the distance, so it’s some sort of interlocking.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Mar 21 18:13:16 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Wed Mar 21 18:54:35 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* I wonder how many R-27/30 cars received those multicolored front curtains. I know I never saw one.
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Posted by italianstallion* on Wed Mar 21 19:13:05 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 21 18:04:31 2018.* Yes, and the tracks clearly diverge because of the island platforms.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Wed Mar 21 19:21:11 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* nice photos
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Wed Mar 21 19:27:11 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Like.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Wed Mar 21 19:55:51 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 21 18:54:35 2018.* I wonder how many R-27/30 cars received those multicolored front curtains. I know I never saw one. That's the only one I know of. All the others had the original R-27/30 curtain signs. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Express Rider* on Wed Mar 21 20:28:39 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* All so good! Thanks for posting! The white birds streaming through Wall St. station would make a great New Yorker cover.
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Wed Mar 21 21:09:50 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 19:55:51 2018.* I vividly remember when they started to appear on the R-32s. I was disappointed; I much preferred front destination signs.
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser* on Wed Mar 21 21:23:35 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 21 21:09:50 2018.* They were used on the R-16s as well.
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Posted by Dave* on Wed Mar 21 22:20:00 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Super!
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Posted by randyo* on Wed Mar 21 23:15:38 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 19:55:51 2018.* Actually, the R-27/30s received new route signs with bullets and end destination signs like the IRT redbirds got. The GOH R-30s definitely got them as well as the few R-27s that got the redbird treatment.
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Posted by gbs* on Wed Mar 21 23:19:03 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 21 17:52:54 2018.* It's from the west end of the Flushing-bound platform at 74 St. The incline from 69 St up to 74 St is clear in the photo. The interlocking and track diverge at Woodside would appear a lot closer from 69 St.
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train* on Thu Mar 22 08:16:47 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 21 23:15:38 2018.* ALL R27/30s received those rollsigns that you are describing sometime around '84 or '85 before any GOH or repainting of any kind.
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Posted by trains61* on Thu Mar 22 10:33:50 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Really nice shots. The Lurkers Guild.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Mar 22 11:13:30 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 21 23:15:38 2018.* Actually, the R-27/30s received new route signs with bullets and end destination signs like the IRT redbirds got. The GOH R-30s definitely got them as well as the few R-27s that got the redbird treatment. I'm well aware of that. The R-27/30 featured in that pic had the color sign in the destination sign box, like the R-16, 23, & 38. This may be an anomaly of sorts. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Mar 22 11:18:12 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 23:19:03 2018.* It's from the west end of the Flushing-bound platform at 74 St. The incline from 69 St up to 74 St is clear in the photo. The interlocking and track diverge at Woodside would appear a lot closer from 69 St. Thanks GBS. I figured it was 74-Broadway, but wasn't sure. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Mar 22 11:22:33 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by trains61 on Thu Mar 22 10:33:50 2018.* Thanks trains61. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Mar 22 11:38:22 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 23:19:03 2018.* Absolutely right. At least I was close!:)
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Thu Mar 22 12:36:37 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 21 21:09:50 2018.* So did everybody else....and on the R40's and up.....thank goodness the R211 will correct the issue. Took far far too long.
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Posted by randyo* on Thu Mar 22 14:26:05 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 22 12:36:37 2018.* For those of you who remember the artist’s renderings of the R-40s, they seemed to show destination displays under the large route letter, something which was eliminated from the final design.
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Posted by randyo* on Thu Mar 22 14:29:32 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 22 11:13:30 2018.* Considering that the R-27/30s were maintained at CIYd among other places, the car probably needed a roll sign and a car maintainer installed whatever was available.
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Mar 22 15:15:53 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 22 14:29:32 2018.* Considering that the R-27/30s were maintained at CIYd among other places, the car probably needed a roll sign and a car maintainer installed whatever was available. This is true, what ever to get it out of the shop ASAP. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Mar 22 15:41:45 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 22 14:26:05 2018.* For those of you who remember the artist’s renderings of the R-40s, they seemed to show destination displays under the large route letter, something which was eliminated from the final design. Here ya go
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Posted by randyo* on Thu Mar 22 16:17:11 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 22 15:41:45 2018.* I don’t remember that one. The renderings I saw had the destination below the letter and no pantograph gates. Either design would have been better than the final result.
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Posted by gbs* on Thu Mar 22 23:52:27 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 22 16:17:11 2018.* This is the image I remember from the back of the 1966 subway map. It shows "Queens Plaza" as the destination written above the large E as though they were on the same sign, not two different scrolls.
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Posted by gbs* on Thu Mar 22 23:52:53 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 22 16:17:11 2018.* This is the image I remember from the back of the 1966 subway map. It shows "Queens Plaza" as the destination written above the large E as though they were on the same sign, not two different scrolls.
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Posted by randyo* on Fri Mar 23 14:22:43 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by gbs on Thu Mar 22 23:52:27 2018.* That’s the one I remember, but I thought the destination was below the letter. Fuzzy memory.
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Posted by randyo* on Fri Mar 23 14:27:30 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by gbs on Thu Mar 22 23:52:53 2018.* Considering how the side signs were, it may have been the intent to have the route and destination on the same scroll. Around that time the buses had single piece roll signs containing both the route number and the destination.
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Posted by gbs* on Sun Mar 25 00:51:31 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by randyo on Fri Mar 23 14:27:30 2018.* Growing up in Rego Park and using the Q60 (Green Bus), which always had split route and destination signs, when I first saw a TA bus in Flushing with a single sign (and no Q in the route number), I thought that was a stupid design, because you couldn't possibly have all the destinations listed for all the routes. The split design made the most sense. Then the R40s came with the same design flaw, which lasted until the R62s. (Young folks here may not recall that the R44s and R46s came with those same one-piece side signs, before they were replaced by the yellow electric signs.)
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Posted by Ian Lennon* on Mon Mar 26 02:35:08 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 22 15:15:53 2018.* The R32 has the route slot blacked out, and the R-30 no. It was probably installed in a pinch like previously mentioned.
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train* on Mon Mar 26 02:46:40 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Nice pictures. I'm so glad you posted that picture of the R32s on the M. I was just telling someone on this board about a week ago that the R32s operated regularly on all three lines of the Eastern Division in the '80s although I was thinking from '83-'85).
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Posted by MainR3664* on Mon Mar 26 07:04:15 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Mar 21 16:54:38 2018.* Very nice!! Thank you. Love the pic of Forest Avenue, with the old El platform lights. Also, the "white birds" zooming through Wall Street look to have no interior lighting ("dark cars"). Perhaps it was a deadhaead move- or maybe not!
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Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Mon Mar 26 07:24:46 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 26 07:04:15 2018.* Also, the "white birds" zooming through Wall Street look to have no interior lighting ("dark cars"). Perhaps it was a deadhaead move- or maybe not! It was in service. It had just made a station stop when I took the time lapse photo. Bill Newkirk
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Posted by randyo* on Mon Mar 26 22:50:03 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] MORE Creative Newkirk Images, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 26 07:24:46 2018.* A very small number of the “white birds” had illuminated ad cards like the high numbered R-32s and newer cars. The problem was that since the IRT had such a small number of them, the ad installers often only had conventional on translucent card to put in the cars cutting down on the little illumination there was anyhow.
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