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Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 15 07:50:37 2017 |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 09:16:36 2017, in response to Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 15 07:50:37 2017. Was her first order of business to call 911 or to do this video in hopes it makes the 5 o'clock news ?Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 15 11:08:49 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 09:16:36 2017. 911 could not help. By the time they take the call, call the MTA and then notify the crew the guy would have been HAMBURGER.PAX flagging the train is the best that could be hoped for. ROAR |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Dec 15 12:20:48 2017, in response to Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 15 07:50:37 2017. Glad to see the train was stopped and the man saved. But WHY can't newspeople learn the difference between a conductor and a train operator? |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 13:13:01 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Dec 15 12:20:48 2017. Glad to hear the guy is going to be OK. It just fascinates me how all terrifying incidents are filmed by somebody, instead of just acting first, and let someone else film it or not. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 14:14:39 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 15 11:08:49 2017. 911 could not help. By the time they take the call, call the MTA and then notify the crew the guy would have been HAMBURGER.911 could have contacted "Control" and they would have radioed the T/O to stop the train in time. The video doesn't indicate how long the man was on the track and when the woman started the video process. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Dec 15 14:29:49 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 13:13:01 2017. He is in serious condition with a head injury. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 14:50:00 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Dec 15 14:29:49 2017. That's too bad. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 15 15:40:05 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 14:14:39 2017. That would have worked in accordance to how far away the train was at the time he fell. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 15 16:43:57 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 13:13:01 2017. Intervening is dangerous for a variety of reasons. Worst case you fall in too. I'm not confident in my physical ability to help the guy out. Though I wouldn't rush to film it, first I'd run to the booth or one of the intercoms (if the station had one). Calling 911 would be useless and take too long. After people are appropriately notified, then maybe film it to get some coin from a news site.Japan's got it right for falling in: big red button, push it and ATC drops authorized speed to 0. Strobe lights and alarms everywhere. Nearby police and RR staff rush to the scene. There's a similar feature at railroad crossings (the gates go down 45 seconds early instead of our 15 seconds, and an occupancy sensor will send a cab signal drop to the train if there is a car stuck). The reasoning is while a 5 minute delay to check the things out is inconvenient, the hours long delay to clean up a strike is massively disruptive. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 15 16:58:19 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 14:14:39 2017. My experiences with 911 indicate how incompetent the 911 staff can be. I once had to report an incident involving my home and when I gave the address, the 911 operator insisted that there was no such street. By the time the 911 operator contacted the NYPD transit Bureau and the TB contacted the RCC, half the trains on the Brighton Line could have passed over the man (not that they really would). |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 15 17:07:02 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 15 16:43:57 2017. An emergency button would not be a bad idea, but it could fall prey to vandals who would press it just for kicks to stop the service. When I worked the Command Center, we had numerous incidents of vandals activating the emergency alarm boxes (which removes power from all tracks in the area) since many of those boxes were close to the platform areas. SOP was to call the emergency phone which was part of the associated equipment at the EA box and if we got no response, the trainmaster (nowadays the supt) would call system operator to restore the power. In the meantime trains on all lines passing through the area would be delayed for as long as it would take to investigate and restore power. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Fri Dec 15 22:46:42 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 15 14:14:39 2017. Flagging an approaching train is a lot faster than calling 911. Even the new call boxes in the platforms would take longer. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Dec 16 06:44:31 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by randyo on Fri Dec 15 17:07:02 2017. Yes, there would need to be some measures to prevent people pushing the button for fun. There could be a CCTV camera covering the area where the button was, so cops would have an image of the perp in the case of unwarranted button presses. But the simplest would be to put the button behind glass, with a little hammer. "In case of emergency, break glass, press button to stop trains". |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 16 08:21:04 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by randyo on Fri Dec 15 16:58:19 2017. Yep! Back in the day if somebody called 911 in the hole, it would be a good 10 minutes before any emergency Personnel would show up. The six wire was much faster, that is, if the lines were working. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 16 08:53:07 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Dec 16 06:44:31 2017. Just about every nonresidential building has fire alarms. Pulling one in the absence of a fire creates a lot of commotion, but we are willing to put up with that. Subway platforms are no different. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 16 10:22:25 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Dec 16 06:44:31 2017. Does anyone have insight into the effectiveness of the SkyTrain system that claims that entry onto the tracks from the platform results in an automatic alarm? I'm sure the system is beyond the range of NYCT in terms of expense but I'm just wondering how well it works. |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 16 10:56:11 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 16 08:53:07 2017. Wrong. Once the kiddies can discover that they can stop the whole railroad...The better solution is "Meat Detectors" that will alert control if anything larger than a cat is on the tracks. Sonar, Radar, Infrared, lots of things can detect and drop the ball on the train. ROAR |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 16 11:06:20 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 13:13:01 2017. The people who film these things don't even have the presence of mind to hold the phone sideways, do you really think they'd mount a competent rescue? |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 16 11:26:19 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 16 11:06:20 2017. **POST OF THE WEEK** |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 16 13:28:01 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 15 13:13:01 2017. She was taking a selfie pic of herself in around the area where the person was on the tracks |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by JAFO on Sat Dec 16 17:25:19 2017, in response to Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 16 11:06:20 2017. vertical video syndrome PSAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA |
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Re: Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident) |
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Posted by B1bus on Sun Dec 17 07:00:43 2017, in response to Man Saved From Subway Tracks; (Avenue H (Q) train incident), posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 15 07:50:37 2017. I saw about 4 teenagers about 20 years ago jump on the tracks, put rocks on the 3rd rail chute and when they saw the train coming jump back on the platform. At the Ave H station. |
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