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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 15 10:56:32 2017 Transit union: MTA stores dead bodies from tracks in break roomsMembers of the Transport Workers Union (TWU) claim that the MTA is storing dead bodies in break rooms after they have been recovered from subway tracks. The story was first broken by The Chief-Leader, a newspaper that specializes in labor union coverage. "You have pieces, you have blood spatter," said Derek Echevarria, the vice president of TWU Local 100. "It could be any contamination or disease." Officials for the transit union say employees are subjected to seeing both body parts and whole bodies out in the open without warning. The group's vice president said leaving the bodies out is not only disrespectful to the deceased and their families, but the discoveries often leave workers traumatized. "These are bathrooms, facility rooms, break rooms — anybody can just walk in without notice," Echevarria said. "And that is another part of ending the service, because they're usually sent home by what they've seen, what they've touched." not a link* *I'm obligated to state that I don't post any links ever by a fatwa from Clearaspect. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 15 11:41:14 2017, in response to Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 15 10:56:32 2017. Looks like you got a man crush...*Smooches |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Aug 15 11:47:50 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 15 11:41:14 2017. "HeyPaul, paging HeyPaul!" |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Aug 15 13:04:53 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 15 11:41:14 2017. Is the wedding registry at TrainWorld? |
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Posted by jrf2 on Tue Aug 15 13:08:23 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Aug 15 11:47:50 2017. It's HeyPaul Jr. !! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 15 13:30:07 2017, in response to Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 15 10:56:32 2017. This is legit.Has been going on for years. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 15 14:13:15 2017, in response to Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 15 10:56:32 2017. Dear Mr. Echevarria;What would you suggest they do with the bodies? Leave them on the tracks? Leave them in plain sight on the platforms for everyone to see? Sometime gross shit just happens. A friend from grade school was the manager on duty when this incident took place. He was in the room when they opened the bag and discovered what was inside. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 15 14:20:07 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Aug 15 13:04:53 2017. LOL |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 15 14:34:31 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 15 14:13:15 2017. Maybe the police can take the body to the Medical Examiners office. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 15 14:48:16 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 15 14:34:31 2017. technically a body can not be moved unless authorized by medical examiner.also a body and its fluids are bio-hazard and should not be handled other than trained professionals. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 15 15:02:20 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 15 14:48:16 2017. I am aware of the first statement. I was responding to his "so what" attitude.Your second statement is the key. The body is leaking fluids while in these employee only rooms, then station dept. employees can't go into their areas. They they have to clean it all up under special protocol. The next day and days forward, you will have some employees spooked by the fact that "I'm eating lunch and there was a dead body leaking fluids right there yesterday". Let them keep it in the rear of the station till the ME shows up. If trains on that platform have to bypass the station, so be it. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 15 16:19:53 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 15 14:48:16 2017. IIRC, On Metro North, if a person meets a violent death on the tracks, the body cant be touched until the ME shows up. No moving anything, anywhere by anyone regardless of the effects on the service. Then there's involved equiptment issues. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Aug 15 17:46:29 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 15 16:19:53 2017. in old day we use to have ME pick big parts and racoons for final cleanup , these days its specialized services to clean entire underbody, tyvek coveralls, face masks, face shields etc etc etc |
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Posted by heypaul on Tue Aug 15 21:25:42 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Aug 15 11:47:50 2017. I just received a video that shows how they used to put corpses in public elevators until the M.E. arrived.elevator storage |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 15 22:19:15 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 15 15:02:20 2017. It shouldn't take the Medical Examiner long to get to the station and remove the body. If someone is run over by a vehicle on the street and dies at the scene, the body doesn't lie there for hours. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 16 05:57:03 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 15 22:19:15 2017. If they are doing an investigation, it does. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Aug 16 08:19:52 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 15 16:19:53 2017. I would have assumed, I guess incorrectly, that this would also be the practice at NYCTA, and anywhere in the civilized world. Heck, simply for liability issues, I'm amazed that NYCTA and/or NYPD will ever remove a body from where death occurred. I can see that this might have happened in the old, Pre-Quincy days. In these litigious times? OMGAs for the effect on employee morale, that's also pretty bad. I wouldn't be too happy if my employer (also a NYS agency) was storing stiffs in the print shop, break room, bathroom, copy room, my cubicle if I'm off that day, etc. I guess I'm lucky that, to my knowledge, no one's ever died on premises. I have a lot of unhealthy co-workers, so I can think of several instances where people did not come back from 3-day weekends or from vacation. But they were not on-site! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 09:19:16 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Aug 16 08:19:52 2017. From the little known facts dept; Back in the day when the railroads were the primary way to go in terms of intercity travel, not everyone completed the trip alive. To accomidate those who passed on en-route, NYCRR had its own little morgue at GCT. Sometimes there was considerable time before the next of kin were notified of the loved ones passing and the retrieval of the remains due to the distance and logistics involved, thus the need for a temporary slab room to keep the deceised on ice. With the thousands who traveled by rail back then, the law of averages would dictate that every now & then an individual would arrive at GCT at room temperature.I don't know on average how many folks per week made their unintentional one way trip, but there was enough to justify the need for this facility. AFAIK, the GCT morgue was located on the lower level under the Graybar passageway, beyond their police office & lost & found where their medical dept used to be. I wonder how many other big stations had morgues? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Aug 16 09:43:31 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 09:19:16 2017. cruise ships do, on ships with about 1500 passengers and crew it was needed at least 4 to 5 times a year. and no not on ice, justed cooled, if body is frozen it destroys certain forensic evidence.temperature was kept just above freezing. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 11:43:54 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Aug 16 09:43:31 2017. "On ice" was meant more figurative than literal. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Aug 16 20:06:50 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 09:19:16 2017. I don't doubt this... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 16 20:20:36 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 09:19:16 2017. Back then, the average American probably lived about 700,000 hours. Now it's probably more like 800,000 or 900,000.Really sick people don't travel on a train, but on the other hand train travel is more stressful than sitting in a living room chair. So a railroad probably has a death for every 1 or 2 million passenger-hours of traffic, which could still be a bunch per year for a big operation like MNRR or LIRR. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 22:53:41 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 16 20:20:36 2017. "Really sick people don't travel on a train,..."Sometimes really sick people don't know they are really sick considering that sometimes the first sign of coranary disease is sudden death. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 17 03:18:01 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 16 22:53:41 2017. Agreed. I meant people who feel really sick. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 18 07:17:17 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 16 20:20:36 2017. Thanks. But I really don't have the mental focus (I'm quite sure I have undiagnosed ADHD) to process a statistic like that. So I'll take your word for it :) |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 18 09:50:08 2017, in response to Re: Union leaks information about MTA's dead body storage program, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 18 07:17:17 2017. You can believe AlMa. He's an actuary. Drone actuary, drone on. |
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