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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 21 15:28:00 2017 Are they coming or not ? June 30 is not that far away. Any sightings or rumors ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 21 19:42:22 2017, in response to MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 21 15:28:00 2017. Nothing new at railroad.net to report.Here's the thread about the leased MARC cars. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 23 22:29:39 2017, in response to MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 21 15:28:00 2017. 5 of 8 to be delivered Saturday, June 23! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 20:16:31 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 23 22:29:39 2017. Twitter postInstagram post #642 is bringing them up. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 21:18:17 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 20:16:31 2017. They have just entered Queens. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jun 25 11:45:58 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 21:18:17 2017. Is one of the passenger cars a cab car? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 25 11:49:37 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 21:18:17 2017. Still need 3 more. RR.net people say they are for the 5:47 HPA to Port Jeff. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jun 25 12:40:32 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jun 25 11:49:37 2017. What will be the driving force? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 25 13:25:35 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jun 25 11:45:58 2017. yes |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 25 13:26:29 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Jun 25 12:40:32 2017. DE/DM. |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Mon Jun 26 03:36:43 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 25 13:25:35 2017. So far it is 3 cab cars and 2 non-cab cars. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 26 12:50:20 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Mon Jun 26 03:36:43 2017. I'm gonna go out on a limb here. It Seems they are sending "What ever is road worthy." Or provisioning for a lot of short shuttles.Is this first shipment it, for this year, or are more due to arrive? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 26 13:09:27 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 25 13:26:29 2017. Will there be enuff? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jun 26 16:34:44 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 26 12:50:20 2017. 3 more cars this year. At the end of the summer all 8 go back to MARC.Next year LIRR is leasing more than 8 but I forgot the #. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jun 26 17:17:52 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 26 13:09:27 2017. more than they had, now read you seem to miss a lot of info already posted. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jun 26 17:21:03 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jun 26 16:34:44 2017. contract is for up to 21 cars |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 26 17:37:56 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jun 26 12:50:20 2017. I wonder if they will use the cab cars as such and put in the not-so-cheap LIRR ASC equipment, or simply run a DE at each end ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 26 19:15:56 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Mon Jun 26 17:37:56 2017. I wonder if they will use the cab cars as such and put in the not-so-cheap LIRR ASC equipment, or simply run a DE at each end ?Cab cars were delivered. so there's your answer. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 26 19:20:23 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jun 26 17:21:03 2017. contract is for up to 21 carsThe MARC cars are numbered similar to the M-7s. Would that pose a problem ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 27 08:03:01 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 26 19:20:23 2017. No. MARC 3241 is a different car from LI 3241 |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Tue Jun 27 08:19:32 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Jun 24 21:18:17 2017. Not that it's news at this point, but they are at Morris Park yard. I've seen the MARC cars the past two mornings while looking out a left side window of an eastbound Atlantic Branch train immediately after leaving Boland's Landing. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 27 17:37:36 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jun 26 19:15:56 2017. Not it isn't. They can simply run them as trailers. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 28 05:43:58 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jun 27 08:03:01 2017. Yeah, but MARC #7745 has the same number as LIRR M-7 #7745 
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 28 05:46:00 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jun 27 17:37:36 2017. Not it isn't. They can simply run them as trailers.You missed my point. There are not enough DE/DM-30's to to run them at both ends. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 10:03:00 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jun 26 17:17:52 2017. Maybe I've not read every post, YET.To which post are you referring? I'll gladly read it, or re-read it. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 10:18:14 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jun 25 13:26:29 2017. I Mean, will there be enuff DE/DM units to move the MARC Cars?Or will all of the passenger cars be used as a single unit, minus a spare or two? Furthermore, if the fix or modification to make these MARC cars compatible with the DE/DM units was presented as a "simple fix", why was it not used on those C-1 type cars of years bygone? Was that so much more complicated? If not, one does wonder. |
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Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 11:22:57 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 10:18:14 2017. C-1 Photo of an ex-LIRR C1 on the Saratoga & North Creek Rail Road (Photo credit: Railroad.net user DaveBarraza      |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jun 28 11:43:50 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 28 05:43:58 2017. They are NOT the same number because the railroad prefix IS part of the real number.LI7745 is not the same as MARC7745 ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 13:36:51 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 10:18:14 2017. try reading up on it , most questions were answered already. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 13:38:25 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 11:22:57 2017. we all know what C-1's look like, but they present a different problem , control of these cars is 32 volt instead of 64 volt. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 16:47:03 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 13:38:25 2017. Ah!So, just out of curiosity, was the price so cheap, that this "tourist train" could Rube Goldberg them into service? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 16:49:52 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 16:47:03 2017. they do not need any doors or control to function as seats only coaches , only 440 volt for HVAC and battery charger. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 16:49:52 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 16:47:03 2017. they do not need any doors or control to function as seats only coaches , only 440 volt for HVAC and battery charger. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 17:24:49 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 16:49:52 2017. Thank you for being patient and all the information.It would have been prudent to design the C-1's so as to be able to remove and replace the key parts and systems to allow an upgrade of the prototypes to the revenue cars. What a lose of an asset. Same with the R/110B subway cars. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 17:24:49 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 16:49:52 2017. Thank you for being patient and all the information.It would have been prudent to design the C-1's so as to be able to remove and replace the key parts and systems to allow an upgrade of the prototypes to the revenue cars. What a lose of an asset. Same with the R/110B subway cars. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 17:28:15 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 17:24:49 2017. they were prototypes and reconfiguring cars like C3's would have cost close to what new C-3 cost. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 28 17:53:51 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jun 28 11:43:50 2017. LIRR Towers, what few remaining, used to, and may still, identify a train by its lead unit. Notice that M-7's have lit number boards, (MN) M-7A's do not. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 28 17:56:28 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jun 28 05:46:00 2017. Doesn't matter. They are not adding any trains - they are lengthening South Shore consists so as not to reduce Friday Oyster Bay and Port Jeff rush hour consist as badly.This MARC train will likely be the 5:47 Hunterspoint - Port Jeff, which is now about 7 C-3 cars, so it must have a DE at each end. . |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 28 17:59:29 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 17:24:49 2017. They did seriously consider making the C-1's the Parlor Car fleet, and trying to make them compatible with the C-3's. They analyzed it and decided it to be a ridiculously expensive undertaking, and dashed that idea. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 18:57:37 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 28 17:53:51 2017. yes but by rules foreign units must be identified by railroad and number. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jun 28 21:49:22 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 18:57:37 2017. And even if the rules didn't require it, common sense would. In the context of the LIRR, one could reasonably assume that the default is LIRR, but that anything else needs to be specified. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 29 10:15:30 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jun 28 17:24:49 2017. At least they protoyped them, and did not build 134 more of them with all their flaws - the R11 of its day. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 29 17:30:25 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jun 28 17:28:15 2017. Ouch, that bad?Would an MP15AC or an Metro North GE Genesis AC DM be any easier to adapt Voltage wise? I'm fishing for an off-the-shelf replacemeent for the FL-9 set. I realize the MP15 is pulling a C-3 set.  
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 29 19:53:28 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 29 17:30:25 2017. Holy crap, the LIRR painted one of their MP-15's ?Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by heypaul on Fri Jun 30 07:43:32 2017, in response to MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 21 15:28:00 2017. MTA alert this morning statedMARC (Maryland Area Regional Commuter system). Look for MARC cars on the 6:57 AM train from Port Jeff to Hunterspoint & the 5:47 PM train from Hunterspoint to Port Jeff starting today. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 30 15:29:55 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by heypaul on Fri Jun 30 07:43:32 2017. railroad.net thread |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 15:35:23 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 29 19:53:28 2017. They painted all of them a few years back. The paint faded in a couple of weeks... |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 30 17:40:44 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 30 15:35:23 2017. Do they have OSHA certified paint booth or do they do it outside ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 30 17:47:36 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ?, posted by heypaul on Fri Jun 30 07:43:32 2017. I though it might start with the 5:47, rather than deadhead it out for the AM rush.How almighty has fallen. In the 1960's until 1972 that train was 17 cars, mixture of P72's, P74's, and P54's with 2 bar cars with ONE Alco C420. From the Huntington electrification to the 1988 Ronkonkoma electrification, it was 13 P72's and ONE GP38, though got a 2nd one in the 1980's. Then it was 11 cars, and by the time I left Long Island in 1992, 10 cars. Then it became a C-3 train of 6, 7, or 8 cars. Now just 5 cars. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 30 18:30:01 2017, in response to Re: MARC cars to LIRR ? C-1 Photos, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 30 17:40:44 2017. I was told LIRR does not have a paint booth.Shameful, right? |
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