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Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 12:49:58 2017

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http://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/01/19/trumps-first-budget-may-zero-out-federal-transit-funding/

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jan 21 13:09:27 2017, in response to Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 12:49:58 2017.

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Eh, he's from Queens, he's not going to let NYC shut down, at least not if we kick out DiBlasio.
Then again, with all the anti-Trump protests here before he had a single day in office, maybe we'll have to pay our own bills.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 21 14:52:54 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jan 21 13:09:27 2017.

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Paybacks are a bitch, unless you are including Melania!

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 16:28:54 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 21 14:52:54 2017.

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What happened to Marla Maples ? Is she being paid handsomely to keep her mouth shut ?

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 21 16:57:46 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 16:28:54 2017.

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Nobody cares. Especially after the election.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by merrick1 on Sat Jan 21 17:03:58 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jan 21 13:09:27 2017.

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His father got the subway extended to 179th Street and Hillside Avenue and increased the value of his properties in Jamaica Estates.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 21 17:47:26 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jan 21 13:09:27 2017.

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Anti Trump protest all over the country.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 19:38:31 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 21 17:47:26 2017.

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All Trump and Sean Spice are doing today are throwing hissy fits at the media about the size of crowds on his inauguration, verses 2009, 2013, and the protest crowd on the Mall today.

What a pathetic narcissist and authoritarian. He wants everyone to listen only to him, everything else is Fake News, right out of Hitler's Playbook.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 21 20:31:56 2017, in response to Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 12:49:58 2017.

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He already promised to fund infrastructure, including railways.

Trump’s budget won’t be released for a few more weeks, but according to the Hill, it will draw heavily from a Heritage policy document that calls for taking an axe to conservative targets like the National Endowment for the Arts and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting [PDF]. Of course, Heritage wants to put transit on the chopping block too.
Aww, hearsay.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Jan 21 20:33:52 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 19:38:31 2017.

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Anyone who ever paid attention tyo civbil rights,anti-war, or similar demo's knows official/media counts are always politically suspect. Welcome to reality idiot donald.

As to GOP zeroing out FTA, as long as FTA money ends up in contractor/vendor pockets (mst of which are Republican dominated--Bechtel as a prime example) theywill pony up the money. Even Reagan, who had no use for public transit, engaged in pump priming by increasing FTA grants to buy buses but not operating funds to run them

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 21 23:07:44 2017, in response to Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Joe V on Sat Jan 21 12:49:58 2017.

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I'd better railfan Amtrak while I still can. :(

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 21 23:07:51 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 21 20:31:56 2017.

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He already promised to fund infrastructure, including railways.

Do you believe him?

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 21 23:13:48 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 21 23:07:51 2017.

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He does.

Reasonable people don’t.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 22 08:13:47 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 21 20:31:56 2017.

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But he didn't say the US Treasury would fund it. So what he's talking about is private capital in return for private ownership and tolling, maybe throw a bone at Gateway project with some Port Authority money.

That has nothing whatever to do with running Amtrak's national network, which OMB, now headed by a Tea Party founder from Congress, will want shut down by October 1.

Last year, Ryan wanted the RR retirement system abolished and merged into Social Security, even though it is project to be solvent for another 50 years.

Amtrak is 9% of the railroad employment. Shutting them down would bankrupt the fund.

Now connect the dots and it is obvious what the Republicans have in mind.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 22 08:41:23 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 21 23:13:48 2017.

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Trump also known how important the subways are to NYC.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 22 08:43:59 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 22 08:13:47 2017.

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And the kind of thing I can see Cuomo, if he can find LEGAL ways to come after Trump's business empire try to block by threatening Trump with having his business empire LEGALLY taken down if he allows it.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jan 22 09:51:09 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 22 08:41:23 2017.

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But wants yo abolish all Federal operating subsidies to WMATA.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 11:26:39 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 22 08:41:23 2017.

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Trump has never ridden a subway in his life.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Jan 22 14:59:48 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 11:26:39 2017.

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Wait, DT was seen with his family (including his first wife) riding the IND Queens Line many, many years ago coming from the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium. One of the New York newspapers had a picture of all of them inside as the train stopped at Roosevelt Avenue-Jackson Heights.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 22 17:15:36 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Jan 22 14:59:48 2017.

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Owned!

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Jan 22 19:56:00 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Jan 22 14:59:48 2017.

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And thus the decision was made to switch to limos and airplanes lined with gold.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 20:12:40 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Jan 22 14:59:48 2017.

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A youthful indiscretion, for which his father later forgave him.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Jan 22 20:26:35 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 22 11:26:39 2017.

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He rode it as a child to have fun in the city.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 22 23:09:55 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Steamdriven on Sat Jan 21 13:09:27 2017.

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Doesn't New York send more money to Washington then it gets back? So we actually pay our own bills and then some. If Trump tries to cut off funding to NYC, I expect we'll hear a lot about that.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 23 00:33:15 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 22 23:09:55 2017.

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Not just NY but most blue states send more to DC than get back (at least in the form of cold hard cash). That said, the benefit of "subsidizing" the breadbasket/flyover states is cheap food, not quite as clear cut. It's certainly possible to untangle but the end result would be the poor starving to death (the middle class would simply have less taxes taken out which would cancel out the higher prices needed for the farm states to survive).

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Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 23 14:33:17 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants, posted by Nilet on Sat Jan 21 23:07:44 2017.

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Why, lose all your money on Jill Steins fundraiser?

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 23 14:34:36 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 21 20:31:56 2017.

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No one was concerned at all of the things Obama zeroed out, so why should they be now when some intern is giving us sky is falling speculations?

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 23 14:41:01 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 22 08:43:59 2017.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 23 15:16:06 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Jan 22 14:59:48 2017.

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However..................


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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 23 15:43:09 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 23 14:34:36 2017.

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What did he zero out?

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Jan 24 07:42:15 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jan 23 15:43:09 2017.

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A lot of the Iraq war!

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 24 08:07:55 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Jan 23 15:16:06 2017.

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Yeah, and when running for Prez, HC rode the IRT #4 line in the Bronx, and that included having troubles with her Metrocard entering at 161st-River.

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Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jan 24 12:40:04 2017, in response to Re: Trump’s Budget: May Zero Out FTA, Amtrak operating, Tiger Grants?, posted by Union Tpke on Sun Jan 22 20:26:35 2017.

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EVERYBODY has used the subway at least Once.
At least Once.

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