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For Those Interested

Posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016

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Last Runs/First Runs - Q Broadway Express Sunday 01/01/17:

The final N/B run to terminate at 57/7 will leave CI-ST at 1101 and is scheduled to arrive at 1157;

The final S/B run to originate at 57/7 will leave at 1202 and 1/2;

The first N/B run to 96th St is the 1108 and 1/2 out of Stillwell (put in from storage), scheduled to arrive at 57th St at 1203 with a two minute hold before going on to the 2nd Av Corridor;

And finally, the first S/B trip to enter service from 96th St as a put in will leave at 12 noon and arrives at 57/7 at 1209 with a two minute hold (goes through to Coney Island).

Hope this helps, and Happy Hunting!
Stef

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Dec 31 06:00:54 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Thanks, guesswork==eliminated!

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Dec 31 10:21:12 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Thank you Stef. I plan to be down there tomorrow.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 31 10:50:54 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Heh. Guessed right.



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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 31 11:27:27 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Hey, how do I know if I'm interested or not unless I click? 😉

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 31 12:04:01 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Thanks for the info!

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Dec 31 12:24:23 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 31 11:27:27 2016.

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Simple. If your name is "Those Interested," you click. If your name is, say, "John Smith," you don't click. I know, I clicked anyway, but I'm nosy.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 31 12:24:55 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 31 10:50:54 2016.

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Yup, I was wrong.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 31 12:57:10 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 31 12:24:55 2016.

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Me too.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 31 13:55:25 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Dec 31 12:24:23 2016.

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Same here. And I don't apologize for it 😉

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 31 14:08:15 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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So I guess I can make a safe ASSumption the 1108 1/2 STL and the 1200 96/2 will be the wrapped trains.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 14:16:32 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 31 14:08:15 2016.

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So I guess I can make a safe ASSumption the 1108 1/2 STL and the 1200 96/2 will be the wrapped trains.


The first N/B run to 96th St is the 1108 and 1/2 out of Stillwell (put in from storage)

Hmmm, put in from storage ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 31 14:32:19 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 14:16:32 2016.

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Storage track?

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by zac on Sat Dec 31 14:37:43 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 14:16:32 2016.

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The wrapped trains appear in photos from 86th St. yesterday, which I assumed were the Q trains running light to 96th. I wasn't there though so maybe they were there on display.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 16:30:51 2016, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 31 14:32:19 2016.

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Storage track?

Meaning wrapped cars possibly stored for first run into 96th St.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 16:43:10 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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..... scheduled to arrive at 57th St at 1203 with a two minute hold before going on to the 2nd Av Corridor

So should I be at 34th St (BMT) tomorrow at about 11:30 am to catch the first train in ? I like to be early.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Union Tpke on Sat Dec 31 19:15:32 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Thank you so much for the information. I knew it was around then.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Dec 31 21:11:49 2016, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Thank you - - I already found out through Trip Planner

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:15:33 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 31 14:08:15 2016.

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I'll agree in part and might be inclined to think the 1200 out of 96th St will be a wrapped train, but don't hold me to it (don't know that as a fact!).

FYI, there should be two more put ins from 96th St behind the 1200, one at 07 and one at 15.

The wrapped trains were probably carrying special guests on the 2nd Av Shuttle(s) tonight for the inaugural run....

-Stef

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:20:02 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 14:16:32 2016.

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Bill,

The put in is probably the R160's coming from their sleeping quarters at Coney Island Yard.

-Stef

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:29:19 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 31 16:43:10 2016.

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That would be fine. According to the schedule, the 1108+ from STL is due to leave from 34 at 1159. It MAY hold for time at 34th St. Keep an eye on the electronic signs and announcements.

-Stef

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First Train

Posted by northshore on Sun Jan 1 00:36:28 2017, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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The opening of the Second Avenue Subway will undoubtedly be the second biggest event in the history of transit in NYC.
It is with regret that I shall be unable to attend. I will be there in spirit, however. Furthermore, members of my entourage will be there representing me.
For all those that are able to attend, Enjoy!

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Re: First Train

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:42:06 2017, in response to First Train, posted by northshore on Sun Jan 1 00:36:28 2017.

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Hear, hear!

Don't feel bad, I'll be there in spirit too. Have a date with my bed at 1130AM. Will go and visit 2nd Ave on my own time...

-Stef

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 00:47:56 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:15:33 2017.

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Yes, they were.

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:48:56 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 00:47:56 2017.

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Thanks!

-Stef

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 1 07:45:10 2017, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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I wonder when this schedule was finalized. Last week, it sounded like they were saying the first train to run on the SAS would be the one leaving 57/7 northbound about noon, with the implication that southbound service would start when the train got to 96/2 and reversed direction. Then they were simply saying "service starts at noon", and now it seems they will open the new stations at 11:45 AM and the first train actually will be departing from the newly opened 96th St. station, with northbound service from 57/7 starting a few minutes later. Was the original plan changed when they realized it meant there would be no southbound service for a while after 12, despite announcements suggesting otherwise, or was this really the plan all along?

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 1 08:05:53 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jan 1 07:45:10 2017.

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It sounds to me like first they made the executive decision to start service at noon, and announced it.

Then someone had to implement the details.

Then they announced those, but someone realized (or was told by questioning emailers) that the details were ambiguous.

Then finally someone realized they might as well be precise or they were just going to get flooded with still more emails.



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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by menJop on Sun Jan 1 11:57:36 2017, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Head car is 9038. Not wrapped.

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Re: First Train

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sun Jan 1 13:12:34 2017, in response to Re: First Train, posted by Stef on Sun Jan 1 00:42:06 2017.

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For me, 96-2AV will be job related when I visit....
Now, 34-Hudson will be on my own time.......

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Re: First Train

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 1 14:09:41 2017, in response to First Train, posted by northshore on Sun Jan 1 00:36:28 2017.

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Sure wish I could have been there. Happy New Year from metro Denver!

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 14:33:19 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by menJop on Sun Jan 1 11:57:36 2017.

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Head car of what? The head car of my train was wrapped.

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Re: First Train

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 14:34:48 2017, in response to Re: First Train, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sun Jan 1 13:12:34 2017.

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:(

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Jan 1 14:35:46 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 14:33:19 2017.

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In one video that I saw, it appeared that there were 2 wrapped trains.(at least)

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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jan 1 14:36:09 2017, in response to Re: For Those Interested, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Jan 1 14:35:46 2017.

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Yes, there are.

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INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by priya12 on Sun Jan 1 14:46:34 2017, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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Your information was wrong. The 1108+ was not the first train in to 96.

Stick to selling Metrocards, Constantine

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 1 14:52:46 2017, in response to INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by priya12 on Sun Jan 1 14:46:34 2017.

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So what actually happened?


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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by zac on Sun Jan 1 15:38:05 2017, in response to INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by priya12 on Sun Jan 1 14:46:34 2017.

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Yep. I debated whether to go to 57th or CI. We went to CI, and rode the second train to 96th. :(



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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 1 15:46:54 2017, in response to INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by priya12 on Sun Jan 1 14:46:34 2017.

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Info was right about the first train from 96st... governor on the PA to boot!

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:48:03 2017, in response to INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by priya12 on Sun Jan 1 14:46:34 2017.

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A last minute change was made by management.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:49:17 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 1 14:52:46 2017.

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First train to 96/2 originated at 57/7.

Lots of brused egos.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 1 16:02:55 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:49:17 2017.

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Ha! I called it!

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 1 16:03:54 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:49:17 2017.

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So, it was a special put-in, as I suspected. That also explains the delays people experienced.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 1 16:38:10 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:48:03 2017.

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Heh.

There were way too many trains up there. The second train crawled all the way up from 57/7. And a southbound train at 12:35 crawled down to 63/Lex and then got up to a reasonable speed.



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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 16:47:52 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jan 1 16:03:54 2017.

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I got to 57/7 at 11:55 and the train was already there. All seats taken, some standees.

I was told it was an extra, originating at 57/7, not on the transitional supplement schedule. No one knew why it was done like this. Maybe the 1108/STL was late or reported overcrowded, I have no way of knowing. Perhaps those at 57/7 and 63/Lex couldn't fit on the train IDK.

We left 57/7 at 1202, held at 72 at least 5 minutes, no concrete explanation. Slow ride after that.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 16:52:55 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 16:47:52 2017.

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Correction: held at 63/Lex with the usual held by the dispatcher announcement. C/r either had trouble with the TOD or didn't know how to program the announcements starting from the different terminal. My car station was stuck on 72nd St.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 1 16:56:03 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 16:47:52 2017.

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Maybe the 1108/STL was late or reported overcrowded, I have no way of knowing.

I was on a northbound Q train that got into 57/7 at 12:08 instead of 12:03, and I had waited about 10 minutes for it at Union Square. So either the 1108 was 5 minutes late, or else it was 5+ minutes early. It sounds like it was late.

The train I was on fuller than normal but wasn't really crowded. I had the anti-railfan window to myself till 63/Lex.





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Re: For Those Interested

Posted by randyo on Sun Jan 1 17:21:25 2017, in response to For Those Interested, posted by Stef on Sat Dec 31 03:17:42 2016.

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I probably should have advised the people on this board to go to 57 St because I was afraid that would happen. The same thing happened to me the first day the IND started service to Lefferts in 1956. All the announcements displayed in the trains indicated the time that the first A train to Lefferts would leave 207 St that day. I waited at my home station 168 for what should have been that first A train. After letting a train signed for Euclid go by, I took the next Euclid train to Euclid only to find that there was no through A service to Euclid but only a connecting shuttle thus I missed the first IND train into Lefferts due to the TA’s misinformation.

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 1 17:53:07 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 1 15:49:17 2017.

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First train *from* 96th left right on time at noon. Governor gave a short speech. It wrong-railed the entire line until the switch south of 72st; there were trains parked on the normal southbound track, meaning it ran the entire length of the new construction before the first northbound could go through.

So, unless you boarded at 96st, you were the second or third train on the northbound track, and certainly not the first on any part of the new line.

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Re: CORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 1 17:56:05 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 1 15:46:54 2017.

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Oh, so it was the correct info after all?

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Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 1 17:56:27 2017, in response to Re: INCORRECT INFORMATION - was: Re: For Those Interested, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 1 17:53:07 2017.

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Minor correction: the first northbound *did* experience the lower level of 63st and the northbound track to 72st before anyone else. For people trying to get the full length southbound track, you needed to wait until the other wrapped train at 96st left, which was probably around 12:30.

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