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Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special"

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016

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Front north end [#381] has its destination sign saying as (simply): "Queens Plaza".

-William A. Padron
["One Sunday Down, Three To Go"]


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Re: Today's Consist (11/27/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special''

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Nov 27 13:25:42 2016, in response to Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special", posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016.

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Thanks William

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Today's Consist (11/27/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special''

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Nov 28 19:55:14 2016, in response to Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special", posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016.

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Maybe they'll have the Alpha and Omega of the fleet at the points during one Sunday.

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Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:26:23 2016, in response to Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special", posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016.

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Due to problems encountered with last week's runs, and now seemingly again for today (12/4/2016), the "Holiday Shopper's Special" was running with fewer cars than usual, leaving behind three of them instead at 2nd Avenue.

Thus, with making one round trip between 2nd Avenue and Queens Plaza....

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Cars left behind...

n/#1300 uncoupled with #1000, but coupled with #1802/n.

Upon arrival into 2nd Avenue at 11:23am, the five-car train became overcrowded with the "hipsters" dressed in retro clothes. I had left there to go to West 4th Street on a regular "F" train with R-160's in use.

Then, at around 11:45-11:50am, I heard on the PA at West 4th Street that the train was NOT running, and is instead on display at 2nd Avenue still. Until the problem is corrected, then it is scratched from any further runs for this week. And so it goes...

-William A. Padron
["Those are the conditions that prevail there"]


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Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:30:35 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:26:23 2016.

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Yeah, Cancelled For The Remainder For The Day.

-William A. Padron
["West 4"]


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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Caine515 on Sun Dec 4 12:47:28 2016, in response to Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:30:35 2016.

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Could they use other cars instead first the vintage train?

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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 4 13:08:01 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Caine515 on Sun Dec 4 12:47:28 2016.

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They used 5 cars on first trip. Overcrowded. Either Control Center wanted the train o/s or it was determined the train being so overcrowded would cause delays to regular service trains.

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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 4 13:33:04 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 4 13:08:01 2016.

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I guess digging 1000 and 1802 out would have caused too much interference for the regular trains... oh well.

To do that they would have probably needed to:
-drop off 1000 and 1802 at 2nd ave on one of the terminal tracks
-pull out onto one of the service tracks
-push 1300 into the other terminal track
-do a run with the 5 remaining cars
-pick up 1000 and 1802 upon return to 2nd ave


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Re: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 4 15:16:13 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:26:23 2016.

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Its too bad they don't have enough R10/11s/16s in the museum fleet to pinch hit, the newer SMEE's B div cars in the museum are too similar to the R32s & 42 were the holiday runs wouldn't be appealing to causal riders.


Must have cool to see them cut the train within the station though! AFAIK that kinda thing only happens in yards, hope someone got it on video.

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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 4 18:17:56 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 4 13:33:04 2016.

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I guess digging 1000 and 1802 out would have caused too much interference for the regular trains... oh well.

1300 was the third car from the south motor. If 1300 was the south motor than 1000 and 1802 would have been on the today's consist.

But because of 1300's position, 1000 and 1802 were stuck with no place to go.

Let's see what happens next Sunday.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 19:56:51 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Caine515 on Sun Dec 4 12:47:28 2016.

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LOL

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Re: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 4 19:59:19 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 4 12:26:23 2016.

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Thanks. The overcrowding reason was not provided in the other thread. Now it makes a lot more sense.

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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Dec 5 06:20:08 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Caine515 on Sun Dec 4 12:47:28 2016.

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Could they use other cars instead first the vintage train?

Not enough cars to handle the crowds.

Also, the Train of Many Metals isn't considered vintage enough.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem.

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Dec 5 08:47:18 2016, in response to Re: Cancelled: Today's Consist (12/4/2016)...And A Problem., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 4 13:33:04 2016.

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So drilling cars on a main line (to mix metaphors) won't screw up the road at all... No Superintendent would allow that.

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Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 11 12:06:33 2016, in response to Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special", posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016.

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As expected, and now running normally with one less "Arnine"...

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-William A. Padron
["Three Sundays Down, One To Go"]


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Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 11 16:27:19 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 11 12:06:33 2016.

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Was there a get-well card for 1300 being passed around?:)

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Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by Bzuck on Sun Dec 11 16:55:26 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 11 12:06:33 2016.

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Was the most crowded I have ever experienced.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 11 19:02:08 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 11 16:27:19 2016.

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103 is almost ready.

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Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 11 12:06:33 2016.

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And so...four Sundays down, none to go. This is it!

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And crowded too, particularly with a musical band doing a performance inside #1575 after the start of the NB trip at 11:34 leaving 2nd Avenue.

-William A. Padron
["And So it Goes..."]

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 12:17:36 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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Thank you!

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:21:51 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 12:17:36 2016.

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You're welcomed, TransitChuckG, and at anytime too!

-William A. Padron
["Houston-2nd Av."]


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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Dec 18 13:05:31 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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I'll be getting on in a few minutes at 34th

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 13:35:14 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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Not today for me. I have company I drove to my house and have to drive home.

But still, I really didn't enjoy it last week, overcrowded. Tough for me to find a seat. That train has gotten too popular!

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 13:48:25 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 13:35:14 2016.

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Yeah, I had to get off at West 4th Street on that point, and let the train go from there, but I will back in the late PM runs. You're right, it is becoming too darn popular, hence with the crowds!

-William A. Padron
["WEST 4"]


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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 14:18:52 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 13:48:25 2016.

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As it gets later and later in the day it gets more and more packed. Plus I understand the bands will be on, making it even crazier.

I'll watch the Giants game. They're leading 10-3 at halftime.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Dec 18 16:03:31 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 13:35:14 2016.

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Yes it was overcrowded! I only stayed for a half of a round trip . Now to see the tree, store windows, etc.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:13:32 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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It's too much to ride the train, the crowds are making the R1/9 holiday train so popular now. There are bands and photographers on every car.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 18 16:22:41 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:13:32 2016.

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If they could get an R10 and an R30 restored, the SMEE train with its R11, R16, 2 R40, and 2 R32 could be useful backup.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 18 16:41:03 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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I'm surprised the train crew didn't kick off the bands, isn't that technically against the rules? I remember seeing signs on the regular trains that the trains aren't a place for showtime or something along those lines.


I know its ok for performers on the Mezzanines & Platform but I didn't know they was allowed on the trains lol.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:44:07 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:13:32 2016.

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Something is not right.

I left the train at 2md Ave before the 4 PM departure. Went ahead to 23rd Street on an F train for photo, right now the train has yet to arrive at 23rd.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Dec 18 16:47:57 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:44:07 2016.

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Agreed. Here at Rock Center. Even had a conductor of an F train say that the holiday train would follow his.

What eventually turned up? Another F train.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:52:13 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Dec 18 16:47:57 2016.

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Yes Robert, that conductors said it too.

It's awesome to post live updates on the spot

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:54:48 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 18 16:41:03 2016.

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The bands and photographers/models were even on the train during the OOS relay move at Queens Plaza.

Another F train, still no museum train yet.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:56:40 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Dec 18 16:47:57 2016.

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Robert, go home. The last round trip is cancelled.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 18 17:50:50 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:56:40 2016.

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Here's the MTA's excuse:

https://twitter.com/NYCTSubway/status/810615262949085185

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 17:54:25 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:54:48 2016.

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I heard the last round trip had problems, the brakes on 1575.........

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 17:55:21 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 18 17:50:50 2016.

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Boooooo.......

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Dec 18 18:14:39 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:56:40 2016.

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I was waiting for some time to see if it would move, and once an F came I took it.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 18 18:15:43 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 18 17:50:50 2016.

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Very diplomatic response.

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Re: Today's Consist (11/27/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special''

Posted by jailhousedoc on Sun Dec 18 18:30:03 2016, in response to Today's Consist (11/27/2016): "Holiday Shopper's Special", posted by William A. Padron on Sun Nov 27 12:36:19 2016.

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the wheels on all of the cars look very worn out to my eyes - so to prevent any disasters from happening in the future, what are the chances of getting them replaced ? I m not trying to throw cold water on anybody, but accident prevention is everybody's business...


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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 19:58:47 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 17:54:25 2016.

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Selkirk came back to haunt it.

He used to tell us that carcwasva real dog when it was part of the regular fleet.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:27:34 2016, in response to Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 18 12:10:36 2016.

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All the more reason to get 1300 back in running shape and 103 roadworthy.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:28:19 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 18 16:22:41 2016.

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Throw in The French Connection cars and you've got it made!

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:29:52 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 18 19:58:47 2016.

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Time for a second exorcism...

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Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:30:55 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 11 19:02:08 2016.

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Maybe next year there will be nine cars.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:32:13 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:29:52 2016.

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No, I wasn't referring to Kev, may he rest in peace. I used to joke with him about having a priest perform an exorcism on 1575.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car]

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 18 20:55:27 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/11/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [Minus One Car], posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 18 20:30:55 2016.

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It's a possibility.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Dec 18 20:59:58 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 18 17:54:25 2016.

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The crew was working on the back end of 1000 - could not get the brakes to release.

wayne


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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by heypaul on Sun Dec 18 22:38:06 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Dec 18 16:03:31 2016.

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"Yes it was overcrowded!"

To assure that everyone who wants to ride the Holiday Shopper's Special can get on, next year the MTA will employ specially trained customer loading specialists.

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Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah]

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 19 00:14:47 2016, in response to Re: Today's Consist (12/18/2016): ''Holiday Shopper's Special'' [The Final Hurrah], posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Dec 18 16:56:40 2016.

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After I posted that previous message, I caught a D train headed uptown.

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