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Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by heypaul on Wed Oct 26 22:20:55 2016

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$10M Award

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 26 22:32:42 2016, in response to Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by heypaul on Wed Oct 26 22:20:55 2016.

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Unacceptably excessive award.

If not, add 10 million bucks to the deficit.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 27 00:39:36 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 26 22:32:42 2016.

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Just close Union Square station, right?

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 27 00:39:36 2016.

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Where in my post did I suggest we close the station?

What can NYCT do to prevent this from happening again? Should we have the gap fillers engaged manually? After all, he was hit 167 times. There are constant announcements asking passengers to stand clear. He admitted he was drinking, it was not stated in the article if he was legally drunk, if that was even checked. What level of responsibility did he have?

MTA/ NYCT is self insured.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 27 01:51:46 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016.

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this might be the best station candidate foe barriers/doors guarding the platforms.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 03:27:10 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016.

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how difficult would it be to design some kind of emergency device that would stop an extender's operation immediately, that could be operated by station personnel? (instead of them standing there watching and not knowing how to stop it)

One other option might be to install the kind of chain link barriers around the extenders as was done at the original South Ferry station.

Perhaps installing a light above the extender that would be red at all times (plus some kind of "Danger, Gap" type of sign), except when the extender was in its proper open position against a stopped train, when the light would be green. Would immediately turn back to red, as soon as the doors had closed.

I wonder how common this kind of accident has been at 14th st. - extenders have been there for decades - if it were chronic it might have been already addressed/remedied.

It sounds as though being drunk, even if not over the legal limit, could have had a lot to do with this accident.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by The Silence on Thu Oct 27 08:29:04 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 27 01:51:46 2016.

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With our luck, he would have just gotten stuck in those instead...

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 27 08:33:59 2016, in response to Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by heypaul on Wed Oct 26 22:20:55 2016.

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Will be reduced on appeal. Happens all the time.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Oct 27 08:42:47 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 03:27:10 2016.

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Okay, I'm deaf your announcements won't work.
I'm dumb so the chain links won't owrk
I'm blind so your lights won't work.
Que Pin Ball Wizard by the Who!!

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:49:21 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Oct 27 08:42:47 2016.

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We forsake you
Gonna rape you
Let's forget you better still

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 27 09:42:21 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016.

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"MTA/ NYCT is self insured."


Yep, only replace "self" with taxpayer.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 17:34:51 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:49:21 2016.

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"Fell asleep on the train. Woke up in bloody Neasden."


A line from the movie Quadrophenia where Chad (is that his name?) explains to his parents why he's late for dinner. They are not happy about it.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 17:37:41 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Oct 27 08:42:47 2016.

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Actually deaf and blind people seem to navigate the subway quite well.

"From Soho down to Brighton, I must have played them all"
- no platform extenders on these routes to worry about.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 27 23:51:09 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016.

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Where in my post did I suggest we close the station?

I didn't say you suggested it. But others in TPTB may.

What can NYCT do to prevent this from happening again?

The only solution would be to build a new Union Square station. By today's standards, of course.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 27 23:52:53 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 17:37:41 2016.

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Those would be references to Soho and Brighton in London, and the speaker in "Pinball Wizard" was not the "deaf, dumb and blind kid".

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 28 00:19:38 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 27 17:34:51 2016.

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Can't say I've seen it.

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Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Oct 28 16:41:32 2016, in response to Re: Jury Awards $10,000,000 to Man Who Was Crushed Between Platform & Platform Extenders at 14th St, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 27 01:06:39 2016.

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Phuck the TA. They used to have platform conductors with radios there. All the money in conductors jobs they saved will be spent if they lose the appeals.

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