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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 30 20:25:27 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 30 17:58:57 2016. I don't suppose they'll be taking the time during this M shutdown to try and correct that? I know from the geometry that it would be expensive. But perhaps they could loft the building on the end over an extended platform, running any necessary wires and other physical connections through pipes up to it? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 30 20:45:42 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 13:54:08 2016. Back in the day when railcars were pretty much dumb mechanical beasties, a design could last for decades.The problem with that approach is that new technology is better by any performance measure and much less expensive. The railroad industry remained in a time warp and continued to employ 1920's technology until the end of the 20th century. The reason they abandoned the 1920's technology is that nobody would manufacture it. There are ways to write software that is pretty much hardware independent. The MTA did not follow such procedures, when they specified their NTT trains. I've wrote about placing LON Works in the specification. I've also wrote about the hardware specific messages between the LON Works nodes within the NTT cars. This pretty much guaranteed incompatibility between different orders. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 30 21:39:14 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 30 20:45:42 2016. Remember it well ... to me, as it is to you, it's a philosophy of at least some attempt at backwards compatibility rather than striking out on some proprietary lock-in that is insanely short-lived. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 30 22:46:52 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 29 14:01:32 2016. We are still installing Windows 7 workstations (factory downgraded from Windows 10). We'll probably continue on that route until they are no longer available. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 30 22:51:33 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 30 17:58:57 2016. Just say, "head 8 cars only at Metropolitan Avenue," unless the problem is also that switches would be fouled. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 1 01:07:30 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Transportation Hub on Fri Sep 30 19:48:30 2016. Yeah, it'll be nice to see the Wilbur/Wilma return. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 1 01:11:04 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 30 17:58:57 2016. You have to wonder if the Moe ever really needed 8-car trains of BMT standards. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 1 18:50:51 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Sep 30 22:51:33 2016. Dorr circuits don’t permit selective operation of the doors within a zone. It would have to be the forward cars only (4 or 5 cars spending on where the C/R position is). |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 1 18:51:29 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 1 01:11:04 2016. It obviously didn’t since Met couldn’t accommodate them. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 1 18:55:48 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 18:27:57 2016. I remember R-17s on all IRT lines, however, I’m going back to the days of the Hi-Vs and Lo-Vs. The cars I actually never saw on the #6 were the R-12s, 14s and 15s. For some reason, the former Flushing Line cars never made it to Pelham. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 1 19:03:10 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 20:02:09 2016. I don’t recall saying anything about the platforms being shortened but it was mentioned on this form by someone. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 1 22:25:50 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by randyo on Sat Oct 1 18:50:51 2016. The R160 door controls are more computerized, they could probably program it to only open the first 8 cars if the computer thinks it's Metropolitan ave (or the conductor could lock out the car from the console). As it is now, they can open a single door leaf in each car from the conductor's operating position.As for "what if there's a mistake", they could put a platform edge with a low fence along the side of the building and signs up on the wall saying "exit next car". It's not like they're going to plunge to their death or be wandering a tunnel... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Oct 2 18:12:28 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 30 18:27:57 2016. R17 began service on the 6 line.After the last of the R36 cars came in,they appeared on other lines. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 2 21:45:21 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 29 14:27:45 2016. I've been using 10 for some time myself and find it has many improvements over 7, and is MUCH closer to 7, than 8/8.1 ever was.Windows 10.1 actually is out (that's the Anniversary Edition that came out in July). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 2 21:47:40 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 17:07:00 2016. I don't see Windows going to Rentware unlike versions of office. There might be a "monthly subscription fee" version of Windows in the future, but I think they will have to keep another version of Windows out there because there are many who use Linux and Ubuntu as it is and more will do that if it got to that point. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 2 21:55:44 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 14:23:06 2016. It's funny, when I had Windows 98 at work, it sucked, eventually crashed and they installed Windows 2000, until I got a new computer that had XP. XP was good, and my last 2 work computers (desktop, then my current laptop) are running 7. On the laptop, I had the choice of having 7 or 8 installed (the advantage of installing 8 was that it was easier to eventually upgrade to 10), but I chose 7. I figured, it ain't my personal computer, and as long as 7 works, I'm good to go. Probably the next time they replace my computer (on the average, has been every 4-5 years), I'll probably have 10, but by then, I'll be close to retirement. :) |
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Posted by MR RT on Mon Oct 3 18:05:58 2016, in response to Windows, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 2 21:47:40 2016. They are up to something with the FREE upgrade to #10 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 3 18:16:12 2016, in response to Re: Windows, posted by MR RT on Mon Oct 3 18:05:58 2016. That part actually makes some sense: Maintaining multiple legacy versions of Windows which each have completely different code bases for security issues is an expensive proposition. What's written for one version doesn't apply to the others, and keeping them in sync and updated has been expensive. Microsoft really wants to get it all down to maintaining just one version and this will eventually get them there.Folks wouldn't be inclined to upgrade just for the sake of making it easier for Microsoft, so this solution probably ended up being cheaper than any of the alternatives. You still need a legitimate copy (or at least one MARKED as such) to upgrade, plus it has the advantage of also encouraging people with older machines that were not compatible to buy new ones, and the Windows tax on new machines never went away, so there's revenue there. I for one though am grateful that I don't have to endure Windows or Linux. Piped off that ship back when Vista festered. :) |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 3 19:36:37 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Oct 2 21:45:21 2016. I heard 10.1 is the first good one. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Mon Oct 3 21:59:40 2016, in response to Re: W coming back November 7, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Sep 24 16:27:23 2016. This is good news. Perhaps it will help untangle the weekday mess at 34th St. I especially like the N going back on the express tracks as it was before 1967. In addition I frequently use the R to go to midtown from Whitehall St. and I look forward to getting on a W train rather than waiting 10 minutes or more for an R to come in from Brooklyn. |
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