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SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 11:13:35 2016

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/ave-subway-ramp-testing-open-december-article-1.2807706

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Dan Rivoli
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, September 27, 2016, 2:50 AM


"Second Ave. subway line needs to ramp up testing rapidly to open in December

To get riders on the Second Ave. subway on time, the MTA needs to ramp up the number of equipment tests ahead of the December opening, an independent engineer told the board Monday.

The megaproject¡¯s independent engineer, Kent Haggas, said the Metropolitan Transportation Authority needs to complete 300 tests on key equipment like fire alarms, radio communications and elevators ¡ª with only 12 weeks to go.

¡°That¡¯s an average of 25 a week,¡± Haggas said. ¡° You¡¯re at 10, so it¡¯s got to ramp up, as of last week.¡±
¡°This is our No. 1 concern,¡± he said.

MTA Chair Thomas Prendergast was still bullish on getting the first phase of the subway ¡ª four new stations on Second Ave. along an extended Q line, up to 96th St. ¡ª open by Dec. 31.

MTA board member Andrew Albert raised the possibility of pushing the start date back several weeks into 2017, but Prendergast was set to get the stations ready for riders this year.

¡°We¡¯re gonna keep the pressure on to get it done by Dec. 31,¡± Prendergast said.

¤t Construction of the Second Avenue Subway as of late January 2013.
Construction of the Second Avenue Subway as of late January 2013. (Patrick Cashin/Metropolitan Transportation Authority)

There have been two stations giving construction crews problems .

At 72nd St., the MTA needs to finish installing escalators and elevators, then connect it to the fire alarm system, ¡°the last major activity of the project,¡± said Haggas.

Over at the 86th St. station, escalators and elevators need to fully installed and tested.


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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Sep 27 12:33:39 2016, in response to SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 11:13:35 2016.

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I'll bet the elevators will be the first pieces of equipment to malfunction once the line opens.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 27 13:51:58 2016, in response to SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 11:13:35 2016.

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Unbelievable.

I can understand milking a job out...but this is beyond ridiculous.
10 years is way too long to build several stations,running tunnels and equipment installation.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:58:39 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 27 13:51:58 2016.

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Wrong.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:59:58 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Sep 27 12:33:39 2016.

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I'll bet the elevators will be the first pieces of equipment to malfunction once the line opens.
Of course they would be. Why would you need a bet? Who's going to bet against you?

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 27 18:38:38 2016, in response to SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 11:13:35 2016.

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Wonder if there is an sign of water leakage yet.
The Archer statons, new South Ferry, and Hudson Yards all have/had it.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by fastlane on Tue Sep 27 21:57:38 2016, in response to SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Allan on Tue Sep 27 11:13:35 2016.

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Blah blah blah, more delays

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Sep 27 22:29:36 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 27 13:51:58 2016.

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Hey, remember Archer Ave? Perhaps, my next-door neighbor, who works for the MTA was right about the SAS opening- Spring of 2017!

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Sep 27 22:35:23 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:58:39 2016.

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Wrong.

WMATA built several segments under similar conditions in 2 to 3 years less time.

An example is the C Route between 13th Street and portal north of Arlington Cemetery. Half of which was mined using the drill and blast method. Construction commenced in early 1970, opening was in mid 1977.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 28 12:50:40 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Sep 27 22:29:36 2016.

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Oh yeah...I remember.


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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Sep 28 19:42:58 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:59:58 2016.

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That is what is called a figure of speech.

You're welcome.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 23:38:24 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Sep 28 19:42:58 2016.

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Way to miss the point. Care to try again?

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 29 01:35:57 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 23:38:24 2016.

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Pretty sure you're the one to miss the point...

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 07:07:58 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 29 01:35:57 2016.

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No, you are. My point that you missed was that it makes perfect sense that the escalators would be the first thing to break, and it would be normal and acceptable. So Mitch45's figure of speech and his attempt to criticize NYCT was completely wrong and uncalled for.

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 29 21:10:20 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 07:07:58 2016.

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Except the original statement was that Elevators would be the first to break, not escalators.

They can't both be the first to break...

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Re: SAS needs more testing before opening

Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 30 13:00:03 2016, in response to Re: SAS needs more testing before opening, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 29 21:10:20 2016.

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They could both break at the same time.

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