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R46 to the "B" line |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 12:23:27 2016 Ive been recently reading about rumors to move R46 to the "B" line eventually. But I remember back in the early 1980s when the R44 and R46 were assigned to the Brighton Line they were moved due to noise and vibration. I remember a few R46 assigned to the "Q" line after 9/11 as "Q" were operating to Forest Hills-71st. Can R46 actually go back to the "B"? |
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Re: unconfirmed rumors from foamers (R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:38:02 2016, in response to R46 to the "B" line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 12:23:27 2016. Like you said, it's a rumor and until something like this is confirmed from a reliable source, someone who works at NYCT, please don't start the title of this thread with a lie. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 12:42:46 2016, in response to R46 to the "B" line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 12:23:27 2016. I thought the rumor was R32's to the B train. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:47:21 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 12:42:46 2016. caine515 is not a reliable source - - obviously caine is posting a lie - - next week, it will be R160 cars to the B line from another foamer. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Thu Sep 22 14:28:56 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:47:21 2016. The R46's to the B line will probably happen if this R46 for R160 swap happens between Jamaica and CI. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Sep 22 14:36:11 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 12:42:46 2016. That actually was a rumor. Started by someone who ended up taking a ride on the B7.Remember this garbage thread? Absolute nonsense. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Sep 22 14:44:55 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:47:21 2016. I think R46s are probably more likely than R32s. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:47:47 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Sep 22 14:36:11 2016. and then someone posted on NYCTF that R32 were not allowed through the Montague Street Tube so R32 couldn't be assigned to the "B" if a incident occurred that had to have them rerouted. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:48:23 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:47:21 2016. ive been repeating what im seeing on NYCTF...and its a question. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 14:50:45 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:48:23 2016. Coney Island shops would also have to become R46-friendly with regard to parts. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:49:13 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 12:42:46 2016. I've explained many times why there will be no R32's on the B or any line that has a chance to access the Montague tube for an emergency reroute. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:51:55 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:48:23 2016. Here is how rumors start: one guy says it will be nice if R46's come to the B. The next guy says "I heard a rumor...." |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:52:53 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:47:47 2016. Me......and here. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:53:33 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Sep 22 14:36:11 2016. And things have changed since Superstore Sandy. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 17:21:12 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:49:13 2016. Basically, their whole original BMT Southern Division stomping grounds.Ironic, isn't it. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Sep 22 17:22:56 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 15:53:33 2016. That's true. I was just waiting to see if you responded to anything on this matter.It's just that there's been instances of bad rumor information in the past, and I was hoping someone would clear it up. Hopefully, it's not another bunk rumor, like this one, or even this one. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 22 18:07:26 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by R32_3671 on Thu Sep 22 14:28:56 2016. It would also make sense since the R-46s have the electronic side signs so the readings can be changed from Bed Pk to 145 St and back with the push aof a button which can’t be done on R-32s. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Sep 22 19:06:15 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 22 18:07:26 2016. IAWTP!.cnhud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 22 19:17:01 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 17:21:12 2016. I still consider the R-32s as BMT cars for that very reason. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 19:33:02 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 22 19:17:01 2016. So do I.On the J, they are sort of "at home", as much as a Triplex would be, more so than the IND. (Too bad they are at 207th or Pitkin - IND country). Strange too that the IND must be used to get such equipment out of the Eastern Division. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 22 21:14:57 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 19:33:02 2016. I will forever associate them with the N - mainly because my very first subway ride was on a shiny new R-32 N train on July 21, 1965. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Sep 22 23:10:33 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 22 18:07:26 2016. In a perfect world, yes, but the electric R46 signs have become much more unreliable lately. It is not unusual to see a train with mixed signs, including "Last Stop" or blanks or the exact opposite destination. I once saw an A train that had both "Far Rockaway" and "Lefferts" signs. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Sep 22 23:13:43 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:48:23 2016. So your subject line originally should have included a question mark:R46 to the "B" line? |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Sep 22 23:14:11 2016, in response to R46 to the "B" line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 12:23:27 2016. Doesn't the B have R-68s now? Would make some sense (swapping 75-footers for other 75-footers) but isn't that a step backward? What happens to the R-68s? Going to the scrapper? |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Sep 23 08:33:54 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Sep 22 23:14:11 2016. 97% 68A's and we are standing room only AM rush at DeKalb Northbound 7am. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Sep 23 11:51:22 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Sep 22 23:14:11 2016. the R68 were supposed to be going to the "G" when it becomes a 8 car train instead of a 4 car train during the "L" shutdown. Wouldn't it make better sense to make the "G" all R46 instead? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 13:47:05 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by gbs on Thu Sep 22 23:10:33 2016. True. I see a number of R-46s on the R with both 95 St and Ctl signs on the same car. In any case, it’d would still be better than completely wrong signs on the R-68s. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 14:01:36 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Sep 22 21:14:57 2016. However, their first line was the Q/Brighton Exp. Back when the R-32s were ordered, there were rumors that the R-32s were supposed to go to the IND Queens lines, however when they arrived, they went right to the BMT. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 14:38:01 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by caine515 on Fri Sep 23 11:51:22 2016. Not really. As I mentioned in my other post, the B changes north terminals non rush from Bed Pk to 145 whereas the G always runs between Court Sq and Church Av with no sign change required. That’s why the C is a good line for the R-32s since both terminals are constant requiring no sign changing whatever. |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Sep 23 14:54:50 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Thu Sep 22 23:14:11 2016. i believe da B has da R-68 A's.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 23 18:46:46 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 14:01:36 2016. Had they gone to the IND, I suppose the IND junk in Queens would have gone to the Southern Division. While they still had a few un-rebuilt Standards to get rid, it is the Triplexes that they had a bug in their ass about getting rid of.I suppose the R32 did not go to the IND since the contrast between the fine running Triplexes and the worn our Arnines that would have directly taken their places would have become quite obvious. As we found out after Nov 1967, the Arnines had a hell of the time making it over the Manhattan Bridge on the D train. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 19:37:32 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 23 18:46:46 2016. Except that many of the R-9s in Queens that the R-32s might have replaced were the highest numbered cars which eventually made it to the BMT Eastern anyhow. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 23 19:50:21 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 23 19:37:32 2016. The BMT Standards were a low bar to compete with - they were slow and had only 3 sets of doors, with a center post. The TA never gave a shit about the Eastern Division anyway, and its customers were politically impotent.OTOH, the Southern Division would have created quite a customer backlash had they gotten them to replace the Triplexes. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 23 21:58:49 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 23 19:50:21 2016. The Three Stooges Division has traditionally been a dumping ground for the oldest equipment, although the R-16s, R-143s and R-160s were a breath of fresh air. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Sep 24 14:07:48 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 23 21:58:49 2016. Don’t forget the Multis which were the newest BMT equipment (other than the Bluebirds which were only one real train and experimental at that) and were the backbone of the 14 St Line until 1956 by which time the TA’s newest cars, the R-16s were holding down the Jamaica Line. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 24 14:15:10 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by randyo on Sat Sep 24 14:07:48 2016. Of course. Makes you wonder how fast they took the 14th St. tunnel. The BMT standards huffed and puffed through it. |
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Re: unconfirmed rumors from foamers (R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:11:10 2016, in response to Re: unconfirmed rumors from foamers (R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Sep 22 12:38:02 2016. Even people who work at NYCT aren't necessarily reliance sources. It depends what their title is and their history of providing reliable info. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:14:10 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 22 12:42:46 2016. Watch it. Union Tpke and others said that wasn't a rumor. They said it was 100% correct for now, as per East New York of the NYCTF, who they claim is VERY reliable, even though he was hilariously wrong about the latest subway car deliveries. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:15:21 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line unconfirmed rumor, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Sep 22 14:36:11 2016. That's not what he's referring to. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:15:58 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by gbs on Thu Sep 22 23:13:43 2016. Correct!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:16:30 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by caine515 on Thu Sep 22 14:48:23 2016. Well then don't do that! NYCTF is not a reliable source of factual information! |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Sep 26 15:28:29 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 10:16:30 2016. No one on NYCTF believes that R46s are going to the B. We do however, trust East New York. |
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Re: R46 to the ''B'' line |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Sep 26 18:42:54 2016, in response to Re: R46 to the ''B'' line, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Sep 26 15:28:29 2016. But Caine515 said he got the info from NYCTF.You trust East New York and...? |
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