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The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:38:39 2016 Yeah, it looks like Bombardier is finally getting the first R-179's ready to be delivered. Their car numbers are starting off at the low 3000 series, just like when the R-10's did way back then...R-179's #3013 + Others At Bombardier. -William A. Padron ["3011-3310"?] |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Caine515 on Sat Sep 3 12:41:24 2016, in response to The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:38:39 2016. What lines is the test run? |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:43:18 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Caine515 on Sat Sep 3 12:41:24 2016. Do not know until they come after from the builders' plant on MTA NYCT property first.-William A. Padron ["a.c.f."] |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Widecab5 on Sat Sep 3 18:42:32 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:43:18 2016. First car (3014) due next week.Pilot set will be 3010-3019 (yes, just like Bill's R-10's). Last car 3309. Two 5-car sets, one 10-car train. Will probably be quartered at Pitkin when functional. Widecab5 |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sat Sep 3 19:18:43 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Widecab5 on Sat Sep 3 18:42:32 2016. They look like R-160s. Will they be compatible with R-160s? |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 3 21:02:14 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Sat Sep 3 19:18:43 2016. I think these things are forever orphans like the R143.Now an interesting project would be to do a R188-style job and rebuild the R143 to be compatible with the R179 (Yes I know they are different manufacturers). Then two small fleet of orphans could be 1 moderate sized fleet of orphans. |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Sep 3 22:22:34 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Widecab5 on Sat Sep 3 18:42:32 2016. The way I see it the 4-car sets will be 3050-3309.wayne |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 3 22:58:50 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Widecab5 on Sat Sep 3 18:42:32 2016. They won't thunder and blaze the way the R-10s did, though. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 10:18:46 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 3 21:02:14 2016. If Volunteers could get Standards, Triplexes, and R/1-9's to Mu, then Shirley R-143's and R-179's should be able to dance!And as an after thought, modify in those idle R-110B's! Their number boards are already legit. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 4 11:02:27 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 10:18:46 2016. There's software license and warranty issues. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 11:18:34 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 4 11:02:27 2016. That's what the lawyers get paid for, negotiate. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Sep 4 12:49:04 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 10:18:46 2016. I agree with that although I don't believe that the Standards and Triplexes are not totally compatible. IIRC, the door circuits are incompatible. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Sep 4 13:42:30 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Sep 4 12:49:04 2016. Correct. 2 conductors needed, each controls his own cars. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 16:25:13 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Sep 4 13:42:30 2016. But, considering everything against that lash up, it was very notable! |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 4 17:34:57 2016, in response to The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:38:39 2016. Did they go with the 75 ft plan or back to standard 60 ft?Vader |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 4 18:18:50 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 4 17:34:57 2016. 60 |
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Posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Sep 5 22:40:07 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Avid Reader on Sun Sep 4 11:18:34 2016. When will the R179s arrive? |
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Posted by priya12 on Mon Sep 5 23:15:57 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Sep 5 22:40:07 2016. Late this week. |
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Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 09:47:41 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Transportation Hub on Mon Sep 5 22:40:07 2016. But please everybody realize it will be MONTHS till you can ride them.They have to be track tested, personnel have to be trained, they have to be put in simulated service. I'm sure there are many other variables involved. So please don't ask what exact date it will be and which line they'll first be on. Yeah, right! |
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Posted by Widecab5 on Tue Sep 6 11:32:52 2016, in response to The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by William A. Padron on Sat Sep 3 12:38:39 2016. Well, 3014's on the way from there to there.Should be coming down I-87 to 287 to 80 to the GWB. I believe the trucking contractor is Silk Road Transport, who arranges for the permits and a private escort. If as past NYS and NJ State Police might also join in, with PA guiding it across GWB to Amsterdam Ave. Private escort up to the NYCT Gate (NO Trespassing!!!!) at W 215 Street. One reason for slowness is the truck has to be in certain transport time windows and wait for the officers to escort it. Widecab5 |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 12:23:40 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by priya12 on Mon Sep 5 23:15:57 2016. Nope. |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Sep 6 12:29:27 2016, in response to Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 09:47:41 2016. Does the NYCSubways still do the 6 month qualification test for the test cars before they go into service? |
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Posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 13:05:28 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 12:23:40 2016. Want to make a bet, Gerber? |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 6 13:35:02 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 12:23:40 2016. :) |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 6 13:35:31 2016, in response to Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 09:47:41 2016. They are R160s with lower numbers. Who would be excited to ride them? |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 13:38:55 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Sep 6 12:29:27 2016. I think it's 30 days....but that means the train is in service virtually 24/7.But that's after the process takes place that I described previously. I would say at least 3 months, MINIMUM, from the time the first train is assembled and powered up in the barn till the time the public can ride it. |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 13:41:16 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 6 13:35:31 2016. Exactly. I expect moaning that they are no different than an R160.The R211's will have a different look. |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Sep 6 14:22:42 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 6 13:35:31 2016. They will have different trucks than the 160s, so it should feel different riding the 179s, there's also the curiosity of what the propulsion sounds like.There's also the possibility that the A will get the 10 car sets, I missed out on the 160 test on the A so personally seeing NTT on the A line is something to get excited about. To me, when a new subway car class debuts is one of the most exciting events in this hobby, since it happens so rarely compared how often new buses come. The 160s debuted like 11 years ago. |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 14:36:49 2016, in response to Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 09:47:41 2016. The 160 took almost a whole year. |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 14:41:15 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Widecab5 on Tue Sep 6 11:32:52 2016. The old days had the cars transported by rail.Why did the MTA/car builder discontinue? |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 6 14:44:21 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 13:41:16 2016. Also some R211s will be OPEN GANGWAY STYLE!
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 15:20:34 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 13:05:28 2016. Sure. You said the R179 cars will start to come into 207 late this week (Thursday or Friday) and I said no. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Sep 6 15:53:32 2016, in response to Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 09:47:41 2016. IAWTP!chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 6 16:18:35 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 13:38:55 2016. Okay thanks. I thought that the prototypes were tested longer. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Sep 6 17:03:27 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Sep 6 14:22:42 2016. They will have different trucks than the 160s, so it should feel different riding the 179sIt's NYCTA. They all ride like crap. :-P |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 6 17:38:21 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 14:41:15 2016. Class I's don't really want to be bothered with the delicate treatment they must get. As it is they have been known to derail tourist RR passenger cars, like forgetting to adjust between graduated and direct release brakes. |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 6 18:14:04 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 15:20:34 2016. :):) |
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LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 18:34:28 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 15:20:34 2016. Enough said. More as the night progresses 
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Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 6 18:39:03 2016, in response to LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 18:34:28 2016. Wow |
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Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Sep 6 18:51:32 2016, in response to LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 18:34:28 2016. AWESOME CATCH!!!!!They kinda look like the R110B on the side. |
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Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Sep 6 18:54:37 2016, in response to LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 18:34:28 2016. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for da R-179.chud1. :)..... |
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Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 6 19:09:08 2016, in response to LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 18:34:28 2016. The roof edges on the ends looks a little different than prior B-Division NTT's, about the same order of magnitude as sheet metal differences between an R16 and R27.Just about ready to be hitched up on the rear of the Adirondack to Penn Station. |
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Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 19:28:01 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 15:20:34 2016. I knew I liked you for a reason! lol |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 19:39:44 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 19:28:01 2016. The feeling is mutual, lol. Lets face it, you were wrong. :-) |
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Posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 19:45:40 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 19:39:44 2016. Unlike some, I can admit it. Nice catch! |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 6 20:06:04 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by priya12 on Tue Sep 6 19:45:40 2016. Thanks |
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Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 6 20:56:21 2016, in response to Re: LIVE FROM NJ EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS (Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 6 19:09:08 2016. What? Am I missing something?They are on the NJ side of the GW Bridge and will be taken to NY later tonite by the same truck that got them to here. |
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Re: Please be Patient with the R179's |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Sep 6 21:01:55 2016, in response to Re: Please be Patient with the R179's, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue Sep 6 16:18:35 2016. The original R179 contract called for a seven month test period: Dec. 2014 to July 2015. Seven months from now would be next April. But the cars are nearly two years late, so they may try to speed up the test process. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Tue Sep 6 21:44:11 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 6 17:38:21 2016. I was under the impression that when on flatbeds they can move as normal cargo, is that not the case? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 6 21:50:21 2016, in response to Re: The R-179's Are Taking Shape Now., posted by K. Trout on Tue Sep 6 21:44:11 2016. Wide load, heavy. |
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