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Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016

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I have long wanted to do a scientific study of whether motorman, conductors and omnibus drivers prefer to work standing up or sitting down. A survey of the literature shows that this is an unstudied area. I am looking for some seed money of $15,000 to start this project.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Aug 28 11:58:59 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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I want slumber seat for operator.


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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Aug 28 15:13:18 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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sure.
Got a check for you right here.✔

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 28 16:13:15 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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How about a jump seat in case the train goes over the edge at Ditmars, as you fear.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 28 16:40:01 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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The problem is that motor vehicle really need to be operated from a seated position. Also, the NTT trains really need to be operated from a seated position due to the placement of their controls, a situation that does not exist on R-32s, 42s, 62s and 68s since those cars have conventional controls. When I was a M/M, I had certain places along the lines where I would change from sitting to standing for my own personal comfort.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 28 17:09:32 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 28 16:40:01 2016.

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What about the R46 cars? I heard that they had to be operated while seated.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by MR RT on Sun Aug 28 17:25:43 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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What about when the motorman needs to fart, do they open the cab door first or the side window ?

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 28 17:32:48 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 28 16:40:01 2016.

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I seen T/O's operate 142s and 143's standing up.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 28 17:32:48 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 28 16:40:01 2016.

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I seen T/O's operate 142s and 143's standing up.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 28 18:11:01 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by MR RT on Sun Aug 28 17:25:43 2016.

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As best as I recall, there was indeed a rule regarding that. You were required in the event of a personal reduction application to first close the cab sash, place your door check in the cab door, leaving it open only a crack, and then let it rip. The safety reason behind the rule was that a shoe arc on the third rail had the potential of igniting your personal reduction and causing a conflagration in the lead car.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Wo

Posted by Allan on Sun Aug 28 20:45:47 2016, in response to Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 09:32:20 2016.

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paul, nice to see you wanting to embrace macademia.

(This is one of the nuttiest projects I have ever heard of)

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 21:48:31 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 28 16:40:01 2016.

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"The problem is motor vehicle really needed to be operated from the seated position."

Randy... Divco was a company that made milk delivery trucks that were designed to be operated standing up, which many milkmen with hemorrhoids really appreciated.

Stand-up Driver

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 29 06:00:25 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 21:48:31 2016.

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Man oh man...
Haven't seen one of those in about 45 years..a home delivery truck that is.
We use to get all sorts of dairy products,even juices from that guy.

Remember the POP TOP orange juice container?
The glass milk bottle eith the paper top?

Man...those were the days.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 13:51:58 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 28 17:09:32 2016.

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That is also correct as was the case with the R-44s due to the mounting of the control equipment on the console. The return to the older two handle control set up on the R-62s and 68s also enabled a return to the seating that allowed M/M to stand while operating if desired.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 13:53:36 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 28 17:32:48 2016.

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I can’t say that it is entirely impossible, but I would imagine that it would be a bit unwieldy to operate a NTT standing up rather than seated.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 13:56:09 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by heypaul on Sun Aug 28 21:48:31 2016.

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True. I do recall seeing some UOPS and other delivery drivers standing while operating although I do suspect it would be a bit unwieldy. I doubt that buses could be operated standing without substantial design changes to the B/O operating position.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 29 13:57:42 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 29 06:00:25 2016.

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My grandmother, who lived in Cambria Heights would get milk and juice from Gouz (rhymes with cows) in Elmont. That type of truck delivered the milk in those jingling glass bottles (with a bit of cream under the paper top). She got other dairy items from them too.

Once in a while we would go to their store. What a treat it was for me as a kid to pet the cows.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 14:01:02 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 28 18:11:01 2016.

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I never heard that one. In many case, the discharge would be so sudden that the M/M wouldn’t have time to do all the.

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Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 15:07:13 2016, in response to Re: Funding Sought For Study to Determine Preferred Operating Positions (Standing/Sitting) of MTA Worker, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 29 13:56:09 2016.

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That should be UPS. Fat finger syndrome again.

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