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[Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Aug 18 16:50:53 2016 |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Aug 19 21:03:48 2016, in response to [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Aug 18 16:50:53 2016. That was quite interesting-- too bad none of it survived. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Aug 19 21:30:17 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Andrew Saucci on Fri Aug 19 21:03:48 2016. AU CONTRARE.I,VE GOT A VIDEO OF WHAT USED TO BE DEVLINS DEPT.STORE BASEMENT SHOWING WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE TUNNELS PORTAL. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 20 20:59:27 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Aug 19 21:30:17 2016. Is there any way it could be shown to the rest of us? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 21 06:55:32 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 20 20:59:27 2016. Is there any way it could be shown to the rest of us?It's probably been sealed and walled off for many decades. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Aug 21 08:26:56 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Aug 19 21:30:17 2016. very interesting about the video.again, different stories/accounts are always heard/traded among various people - I heard one account where an existing portion of the tunnel still existed but was walled/sealed off by City Hall station construction, and then heard another account that someone was able to access it years back, and found it filled with debris and water seepage. are these true, or just partially true, if that, with a lot of hearsay? |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 16:45:40 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 21 06:55:32 2016. I was asking about the video. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 22 09:45:30 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Union Tpke on Sun Aug 21 16:45:40 2016. I was asking about the video.I searched youtube but could find nothing tunnelrat described. Maybe tunnelrat could tell us more about the video ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Asgard on Mon Aug 22 10:24:46 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 20 20:59:27 2016. It might be the February 2004 "Jane's New York" episode, with Joe Brennan. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Aug 22 11:02:04 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Union Tpke on Sat Aug 20 20:59:27 2016. no,its on a vcr tape and the person who combined it with other tapes was high on pot when it was done,so it came out with tv shows in between other trolley tapes.its kinda screwed up. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Aug 22 11:05:48 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Express Rider on Sun Aug 21 08:26:56 2016. ed,I haven`t heard these stories. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Aug 22 13:32:55 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 21 06:55:32 2016. I would imagine that with the construction of the BMT Broadway line, nothing at all survives of the Beach pneumatic railroad. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Aug 22 13:33:54 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Aug 22 11:02:04 2016. I'd guess with the right technology, the parts this groups is interested in could be extracted from the tape and digitalized.... |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 22 14:07:54 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Aug 22 11:05:48 2016. These two stories I remember hearing some 40 plus years back - maybe on a fan trip, ERA NY Div meetings or at a Headlights stuffing session.I also remembered after posting this, that in the second account - accessing the tunnel's remains and seeing seepage debris etc., part of the story was that this was done through a grate found in the wall of the tunnel itself. (probably north of the station? if this even exists?) I posted these just to put what I'd heard, down "on paper." They are questioable at best, and could very probably be exaggeratiobns or not true at all. If there was even a tunnel grate at all (!!) it was probably sealed a long time ago. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 22 14:09:26 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Aug 22 11:05:48 2016. p.s. - how long is the Devlin's dept. store segment in your video?45 seconds? a minute or so? could it have been from an old newsreel? |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Aug 22 14:19:16 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Aug 22 13:32:55 2016. That is what I understand. The ROW was obliterated with the construction of the BMT on Broadway. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Aug 23 09:25:09 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by northshore on Mon Aug 22 14:19:16 2016. Right. The BRT/BMT tunnel being many times larger, simply subsumed the Beach tunnel.The Dual Contract builders knew there was no practical way to save the Beach tunnel itself, so they took a few photos to document things (I'm glad they did) and made an attempt to save the railcar(s). The car(s) got lost, probably in the combined craziness of massive construction and WW1. I'd speculate that some construction exec got tired of waiting for a museum to it/remove them from wherever they'd been taken, and ordered it/them scrapped. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Aug 23 12:51:14 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Aug 22 11:02:04 2016. no,its on a vcr tape and the person who combined it with other tapes was high on pot when it was done,so it came out with tv shows in between other trolley tapes.its kinda screwed up.So this VCR tape was home recorded, not commercially marketed. Was recorded off the TV, from a telecast. Right ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Aug 25 10:03:45 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Aug 23 12:51:14 2016. right. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Aug 25 11:23:45 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Aug 25 10:03:45 2016. Sounds to me like another 76th street story, legend, or whatever er the rumors of existing remains, not the pneumatic tunnel itself. If there are dimensions and any drawings of the car used maybe a duplicate car could be built for the TA museum. Karl |
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Posted by northshore on Thu Aug 25 11:49:19 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Aug 25 11:23:45 2016. Great idea |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Aug 25 12:42:44 2016, in response to Re: [Article] Abandoned Beach Pneumatic Subway, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Aug 25 11:23:45 2016. Sounds to me like another 76th street story, legend, or whatever er the rumors of existing remains, not the pneumatic tunnel itself.I think the tunnel exists in part. Unless if after abandonment the tunnel was filled in. It would be easier to wall off the tunnel and save money. Bill Newkirk |
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