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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016 2016 Parade of Trains Once again the New York Transit Museum staged a “Parade of Trains” at Brighton Beach just as they had done last year. Four trains were operating . The BU Gate Cars 1404-1273-1407 ran as a shuttle on the northbound express track (A4) between Brighton Beach and Ocean Parkway. The other three train sets ran between Brighton Beach and Kings Highway using the express tracks in both directions. 1) “The Train of Many Metals” consisted of R-38 4028-9, R-42 4572-3 and R-40 4280-81. All six 2) “The Arnie Train” consisted of R-1 381, R-6 1300 & 1000 and R-9 1802. 3) “The AB-D Train was quite a surprise. The consist was B-Type 2390-1-2 and D-Type 6112. The MU connections have been modified so the two units can run together. The doors however must be operated separately . Several members of this board were there including our resident LIRR historian Bob Andersen, Bill Newkirk and myself. The trains are running on Sunday, June 26 so take a ride if you can. Bring a camera (if you have one). Bring a friend (if you have one). Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by BMRR on Sat Jun 25 20:28:41 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. Larry,Thank you for the report. I'm going tomorrow. Kevin |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 25 22:01:14 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. larry,where you wuz? me-n- cupcakes were there from 1130am to the lst ride `bout 5pm |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 25 22:02:04 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 25 22:01:14 2016. should read LAST ride. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 22:05:52 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. Thanks for the report. Sounds awesome. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 25 23:02:54 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I wonder how much needed to be done for those BMT workhorses to operate together. IINM the standards had fewer pins in their electric portions. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Jun 25 23:03:15 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. The trains are running on Sunday, June 26 so take a ride if you can.I may just do that! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 23:45:26 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Jun 25 23:03:15 2016. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Bzuck on Sun Jun 26 00:16:31 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I was there! |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Jun 26 12:13:28 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 25 22:01:14 2016. Steve: I got there a little before 12 and rode the BU's first. I guess that we just kept missing each other.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 17:05:04 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jun 25 23:02:54 2016. The steels had an entirely different type of electric portion from the Ds and R-9s. Also, the door jumpers were in different places, the steels having the door jumper under the drawhead and the Ds having it long side the bulkhead door which is why the doors cannot be operated on the entire train from either type car. You would think that the car equipment people working on them could have added the door control pins to the electric portion on both types so that the doors could be operated on the entire train from either type. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 17:06:59 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. If the operation was scheduled to go on a bit later in the day like 500 or 600PM I would have gone, but by the time I got out of church and ate breakfast, the 400PM end time was a little too close for me to be able to make it. |
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Posted by B1bus on Sun Jun 26 18:35:49 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I think I saw Dennis Linsky there at 3pm (looking old). |
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Posted by Allan on Sun Jun 26 19:33:23 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I as there today (Sunday).What really amazed me was that they were able to get the door controls on B-type 2391 to actually work so that all the doors could open. From what I was told it took many months to rebuild those controls (as compared to the BMT Centennial when they had to open doors by hand). It should be pointed out that the door controls were removed and plated over in Cars 2390 and 2392. One thing that was noticeable was that they didn't stencil the car numbers on the interior. I liked seeing the ancient metal route/destination signs placed in the BU's. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jun 26 19:41:49 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by B1bus on Sun Jun 26 18:35:49 2016. He was there, yes. |
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Posted by Bill West on Sun Jun 26 19:56:42 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by randyo on Sun Jun 26 17:05:04 2016. I would think the problem would be getting a snake through the existing conduits to be able to pull new wires between the places they are needed, especially with old old wires in place. One would have to know the junction box layout to see if this can be minimized or alternatively bypassed with new conduit.Bill |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jun 26 20:19:37 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Bill West on Sun Jun 26 19:56:42 2016. and if the conductors now in the conduit have been there for many years, this would be a very unpleasant task. If one can get the old ones to move, (very big if) one copuld be used in lieu of a snake (fish tape) Lots of pulling slime. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 26 20:52:12 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Allan on Sun Jun 26 19:33:23 2016. Those standards moved very well. Next year that museum set turns 100! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 26 21:36:55 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I was there late. Saw Tunnel Rat Steve with Cupcakes, Fred G, and an old SubTalk poster, BMTLINES. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jun 26 23:31:39 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Bill West on Sun Jun 26 19:56:42 2016. Considering the frequency at which these cars in this configuration run with passengers, I would say a second conductor is significantly more cost and time effective :). |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 27 04:59:20 2016, in response to 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Jun 25 18:58:29 2016. I was there from 1 until the last BU gate cars ride. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jun 27 08:20:36 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 27 04:59:20 2016. Did you say hi to anyone from here? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 27 10:43:03 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 26 20:52:12 2016. Next year that museum set turns 100!So next year's parade will be for the centennial of the Standards! |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Jun 27 14:29:41 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jun 26 20:52:12 2016. It almost didn't happen.When I got there just before 12 PM on Sunday the motors on the Standards kept dropping out when the motorman moved the controller. It was about 7 minutes (and a lot of tries) before everything started moving. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 27 15:15:35 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Bill West on Sun Jun 26 19:56:42 2016. Relocating the cables would be required anyhow when replacing the older “slide” with a more up to date electric portion since the devices are actually quite different. On the steels, the contacts are on the bottom of the slide and when withdrawn, the slide makes a loop circuit with the base of the electric portion. When the slide is advanced, it inserts into the opposite drawhead and pushes the slide on the other car and mates with the contract on the base of the electric portion. Advancing the slide is not automatic and is accomplished my utilizing the “advance”position on the uncoupling valve. On the newer portions, the contacts are on the front of the electric portion and when the coupling is made, both portions advance automatically and the contacts meet each other face to face. That would mean that the cables to the couplers are in slightly different positions on the steels from where they are on the Ds and R-9s and the differences in the portions is also why the SI cars could not be coupled to the steels since the SIs had the more modern version of the electric portion. By the way, many of the BMT old timers referred to both types of electric portions as “slides”even though they were 2 different types. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 27 19:13:01 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 27 10:43:03 2016. I'll second that! They're the same age as my father, only he passed away in 2011. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 27 19:13:53 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Allan on Mon Jun 27 14:29:41 2016. Everybody out and push!:)Maybe it was just a matter of getting the kinks worked out. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 27 19:15:05 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Allan on Sun Jun 26 19:33:23 2016. Did anyone film the conductor working the button console? Either they managed to find the correct parts or simply made new ones. |
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Posted by renee gil on Mon Jun 27 19:36:05 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 27 10:43:03 2016. That would be great. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 28 01:34:33 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jun 27 08:20:36 2016. I was talking to the same group of guys as last year. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 28 08:26:31 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 28 01:34:33 2016. Who were they? Anyone from here? |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Jun 28 11:04:54 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 27 19:15:05 2016. I think they took parts from the door controls of the other 2 cars (which I had mentioned earlier were no plated over) as well made some replacement parts. |
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Posted by B1bus on Tue Jun 28 14:33:10 2016, in response to Re: 2016 Parade of Trains, posted by B1bus on Sun Jun 26 18:35:49 2016. I saw him get off the CI bound Q at 3pm looking dapper. |
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