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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Jun 20 15:26:37 2016 According to nycsubway.org, the "new" South Ferry station is scheduled to re-open sometime (not specified) this year. Is this still true? Is work actually being done there?Bob |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 20 17:03:10 2016, in response to New South Ferry station, posted by GIS Man on Mon Jun 20 15:26:37 2016. I read 2017 in some newspaper.The station has already been closed longer than it had been open. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 20 19:08:55 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 20 17:03:10 2016. How ironic. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jun 20 20:01:42 2016, in response to New South Ferry station, posted by GIS Man on Mon Jun 20 15:26:37 2016. I'm not sure when they'll be done, but I rode on the #1 just today into (old) South Ferry. I can state for a fact that work is being done on the tracks and tunnel.Rails are in place, but not connected to the "mainline". Red flashing lanterns are in place, just southeast of the home signal that splits the route into the old and new tunnels. In fact, I think the switch itself is somewhat intact, though there is a break in the rails just after it that would prevent inadvertent running into the new station. There's also some plywood. That work is taking place in the "new" station is apparent. Also at street level- the separate (not the one shared with the R- thought that one is also coming along) entrance on Minuit Plaza and the one on State Street look well along in reconstruction. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 21 06:26:08 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 20 17:03:10 2016. "The station has already been closed longer than it had been open."Its a piker compared to the other classic closed stations. Court Street - Open 10 years, closed 70 years* City Hall - open 41 years, closed 71 years. 18th Street - open 44 years, closed 68 years. 91st Street - open 55 years, closed 57 years. Worth Street is reaching the tipping point soon - it was open for 58 years (1904-1962) and it has now been closed for 54 years. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Tue Jun 21 08:28:40 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jun 20 20:01:42 2016. Thanks, Main.Bob |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 21 11:12:50 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 21 06:26:08 2016. Yeah,but if you really think about it,the station is exempt due a natural disaster. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 13:58:19 2016, in response to New South Ferry station, posted by GIS Man on Mon Jun 20 15:26:37 2016. 1- Will future flooding threats be permanently fixed addressed?2- Will the leaks that plagued the new station also be fixed? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 21 14:50:23 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 13:58:19 2016. future flooding will continue until the SAS is completed to both the Bronx and Brooklyn.The leaks will be fixed as soon as those at Bergen Lower. am I sufficiently cynical? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Jun 21 14:56:30 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 21 06:26:08 2016. Wow !!Thanks! Mike |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 21 19:03:13 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 21 06:26:08 2016. Of course, Court St. isn't abandoned by any means.:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 21 19:04:16 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 13:58:19 2016. When the sun rises in the west.:) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jun 21 19:43:07 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 13:58:19 2016. When we have a major-party candidate qualified to be President of the United States. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 19:47:19 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 21 14:50:23 2016. 10-4!!! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jun 21 20:18:58 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 21 14:50:23 2016. future flooding will continue until the SAS is completed to both the Bronx and Brooklyn.The leaks will be fixed as soon as those at Bergen Lower. am I sufficiently cynical? You missed future (C) service terminating at 76th St. instead of Euclid Ave. :) Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Jun 21 21:08:34 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 21 11:12:50 2016. That station was a disaster from the day it opened (very late like everything else the MTA built). |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 21:20:40 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 21 11:12:50 2016. Afer it opened, there were photos of leaks and water damage posted here, before the deluge. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 21 21:21:24 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by GIS Man on Tue Jun 21 08:28:40 2016. No problem. Glad to supply useful info to my Sub Chat buddies.... |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jun 22 15:54:09 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jun 21 20:18:58 2016. OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I HAVE STATED THAT 76 ST WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A TERMINAL BUT ONLY A THROUGH STATION. THERE WAS NEVER ANY PROVISION FOR SWITCHES SOUTH OF THE STATION FOR TURNING TRAINS THERE!!!!! |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 22 18:06:18 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jun 21 20:18:58 2016. Bill: One thing can say for 76th Street Station is that it never flooded.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Q4 on Thu Jun 23 09:11:36 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jun 21 19:43:07 2016. Right now I would settle for a minor-party candidate qualified to be President. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 10:09:59 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 22 18:06:18 2016. Larry, are you hinting you have been to 76th St station, and are reporting zero water damage?Or am I reading to much into your post? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 10:20:11 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 22 15:54:09 2016. You are correct, the trains would have to proceed to Crossbay Blvd. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 23 10:29:23 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 10:09:59 2016. 76th Street, and that part of Queens is in what used to be the river bed of the Hudson River prior to the last ice age.Ice ages come and go, and while they are epic climate changes, they have nothing to to with man-made whatever it was that Algore was yapping about. ROAR |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 23 10:41:23 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 23 10:29:23 2016. Ice ages come and go, and while they are epic climate changes, they have nothing to to with man-made whatever it was that Algore was yapping about. ROAR  |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 23 10:43:09 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by randyo on Wed Jun 22 15:54:09 2016. OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I HAVE STATED THAT 76 ST WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A TERMINAL BUT ONLY A THROUGH STATION. THERE WAS NEVER ANY PROVISION FOR SWITCHES SOUTH OF THE STATION FOR TURNING TRAINS THERE!!!!!Sheesh, I was joking. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jun 23 10:48:28 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 23 10:29:23 2016. Ice ages come and go, and while they are epic climate changes, they have nothing to to with man-made whatever it was that Algore was yapping aboutBroadway: I was to young to remember the last ice age so I will have to take York word for it. The only other person on this board who might recall it is Tunnelrat. He made a fortune selling rock salt to the Eskimos. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jun 23 10:50:39 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 10:09:59 2016. Larry, are you hinting you have been to 76th St station, and are reporting zero water damage?Or am I reading to much into your post? Avid: I was being positive in a negative way. Its hard for something to flood when it was never there in the first place. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 23 13:21:01 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jun 22 18:06:18 2016. I will accept that as a factual statement. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 23 13:22:37 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 23 10:29:23 2016. Well, no doubt 76th/Pitkin has a high water table (we've discussed that here ad nauseum). But for some reason, it never flooded. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 23 13:23:45 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 23 13:22:37 2016. Let me be a little more factual: The 76th Street IND station never flooded- ever.Could the intersection of 76th/Pitkin ever flooded? I don't know... |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 23 14:07:29 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jun 21 20:18:58 2016. sorry. maybe I should add, Triboro RX fully implemented linking SW Brooklyn to the Bronx via Hell Gate (two, two threads in one!) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 23 14:21:15 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jun 23 13:22:37 2016. We don’t know for sure if it ever flooded or not. I heard that one of the reasons that the Pitkin Av subway was not continued past that point was that the builders encountered some sort of water condition that would have mede construction past that point either impossible or at best, prohibitively expensive. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 23 14:33:26 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 23 10:43:09 2016. It’s hard to say since many posters on this topic seem to think that trains could have terminated there if it had been completed. |
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Posted by Renee gil on Thu Jun 23 15:09:14 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 23 14:33:26 2016. You should have known he was joking because of the ": )" after his sentence. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 23 19:25:46 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Q4 on Thu Jun 23 09:11:36 2016. ABC |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 23 19:36:09 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Renee gil on Thu Jun 23 15:09:14 2016. You should have known he was joking because of the ": )" after his sentence.Exactly. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 19:41:03 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 23 14:21:15 2016. However, the crosstown Local (G) train was able to go beneath Newton Creek. The 6th Ave Express, lowest level was able to overcome water conditions.Maybe this undocumented contract was unable to explain cost over runs? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jun 23 20:24:52 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 23 14:33:26 2016. "It’s hard to say since many posters on this topic seem to think that trains could have terminated there if it had been completed."Well, Jamaica Center wasn't designed as a terminal either, but they terminate trains there anyway, albeit with some difficulty. Actually, trains can be terminated anywhere if one doesn't care how smoothly things run. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 21:56:22 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 21 19:03:13 2016. Hence the asterisk. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jun 23 21:58:41 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 23 19:41:03 2016. Does Newtown Creek have a particularly high water table? I was under the impression the Crosstown tunnel was a standard under-river tunnel like the East River tubes. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 22:00:11 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Jun 21 21:20:40 2016. Everything is built like crap today. There's no quality. The Brooklyn Bridge is 133 years old. With proper maintenance and assuming it avoids human destruction or natural disaster, it should easily last another 133. How many buildings going up today will still be around in 2149? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 23 22:13:10 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 22:00:11 2016. Hell Gate Bridge will remain standing as long as humans remain on Earth. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 23 22:17:54 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 22:00:11 2016. Everything is built like crap todayToo much government. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jun 23 22:32:03 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 22:00:11 2016. While I agree about the quality issue, a huge percentage of recent buildings are sufficiently ugly that IMHO having them fall down would be an improvement. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 23 22:35:56 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 21 06:26:08 2016. That may be true, but each of these stations except for possibly Court Street were intentionally, permanently closed. For any abandoned station, that they would eventually be closed longer than they were open is inevitable. No one ever intended to close South Ferry for more than a couple of days. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 23 22:37:58 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 23 22:00:11 2016. Please don't tempt fate. SubTalk/SubChat has an awful track record (no pun intended) of predicting which buildings will last 100 years or 12 hours. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 23 22:38:45 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 23 22:17:54 2016. LOL! |
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Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Thu Jun 23 22:55:27 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 23 22:38:45 2016. Testing. Am I on this board now with my preferred handle and password or am I going to be going around the hoops again. |
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Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Thu Jun 23 22:55:27 2016, in response to Re: New South Ferry station, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 23 22:38:45 2016. Testing. Am I on this board now with my preferred handle and password or am I going to be going around the hoops again. |
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