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Posted by Dave on Mon Feb 8 14:07:20 2016, in response to Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Feb 8 13:04:02 2016. Both cars. Each car is separate. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Feb 8 23:42:14 2016, in response to Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Feb 8 13:04:02 2016. As Dave says, each car is self-contained. There is no way to walk from one to the other. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 02:16:40 2016, in response to Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Feb 8 13:04:02 2016. Also of note, is that both cars have an operator. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 09:29:09 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 02:16:40 2016. Really? So the operator in the trailing car just handles the doors and that's it? In this case (outside), is fare payment like on a bus? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 9 10:12:45 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 09:29:09 2016. That's what they do on the Victory(Septa), Media-Sharon Hill double ups, IIRC. |
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Posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Feb 9 10:35:16 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 09:29:09 2016. Yes, exactly like a bus. But in reality - like so much of the MBTA - it really doesn't work at all. During most of the day, and especially during rush hours, it is impossible to board through the front doors alone, and the operator will open them all, requesting that "passengers who have entered through the rear, please come up and pay their fare". LOL. Anyone who does not have a monthly or weekly pass ends up riding for free. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 10:47:06 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Ancient Mariner on Tue Feb 9 10:35:16 2016. I'm definitely getting a weekly pass when I get up there even though I'm only staying a couple of days. Seeing the whole system for $19 without worry is an excellent rail-fan deal.I know I've asked before around Christmas time but just want to throw it out there again as it wasn't answered. . .are there must-sees on MBTA besides Mattapan trolleys, and the Green Line C and D? If I leave off B and E on the Green Line am I missing much? Also, I was looking at the Southwest Corridor on the Orange Line which looks interesting but is there much of a point (if time was of the essence) to go to other terminal extremities (Oak Grove, Braintree, and the like)? All opinions welcome. And thanks. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 12:53:55 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 10:47:06 2016. Just stay away during the rush. If you think NYC is bad.......In the PM rush I observed trains on the orange and red lines with "isolated cars"..... cars out of service greatly increasing station dwell time as the passengers try to squeeze into the remaining cars. And this was in the summer with no school kids coming home from activities and others on vacation. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 15:20:26 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 12:53:55 2016. I would do the E over the C -- the streetcar running is pretty interesting.Here's an itinerary I might suggest, particularly if you're a bus fan: Start somewhere downtown: do the E to Heath Street, change for the 39 bus, take that to Forest Hills, then take the Orange Line back up (can obviously be done in reverse). I think the northern end of the OL is also worth doing. The bridge over to Charlestown is pretty interesting, and the brutalist station designs are an experience. Also interesting to contrast to Assembly Square, the new infill. Maybe don't bother with Oak Grove though -- time your trip so that you can get off at Malden Center and take the Commuter Rail back downtown. Nothing terribly interesting at any of the other line ends with the possible exception of the Blue Line. Bowdoin is pretty interesting, and IIRC you can ride around the loop. The Blue Line generally is pretty great; the mode switch at Airport is interesting to watch and the station redesigns have all been pretty interesting. IIRC, there may be *one* unreconstructed station left. Especially if it were summer, I'd suggest getting off at Revere Beach and hitting up Kelly's Roast Beef there for lunch (as I used to do in a past life). OH - another thing -- buy your weekly pass on a Charlie Ticket. That way it's usable for Zone 1A of the Commuter Rail, which includes most of the Fairmount Line -- as well as the Inner Harbor Ferry. (Lots of new stations and a clock-facing schedule.) If you're a bus fan, do one of the Cambridge trackless trolley lines. If you're interested, I can give you another great transit-fanning opportunity involving one of those, a conventional bus, and the Commuter Rail. Let me know if you have any other Boston questions! I could do this all day. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 15:21:43 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 12:53:55 2016. The OL rolling stock situation is a total mess.One of the biggest failures of Massachusetts state government in the past decade or two is not tacking on to PATH's order or (less preferably) placing the Orange Line order at the same time as the Blue Line order. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 16:32:46 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 10:47:06 2016. You can actually walk from near the end of the E (Back of the Hill stop) to the D at Brookline Village. Google maps directions.Or if you don't want to take the walk, the 66 bus from Mission Park will bring you to all the other green line routes along Harvard Ave. Have fun! I always love going over there... |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 16:46:44 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 15:20:26 2016. Thanks for everything!In terms of being a busfan I would definitely prefer new and exciting, but mainly stuff you wouldn't find in NYC. I would want to avoid anything (as much as possible) that I can easily board in different colors down here. Is there a city busway in Boston or is it just intercity? I'm not into Regional Rail much wherever I go, unless by chance there's a RFW or something totally unique about Boston's that separates it from, say, Philadelphia's, or MARC or LIRR. Not opposed to using it to get somewhere fast, just not all that interested for my hobby. For Charlie Ticket I can get my pass at any station right? If I go to Airport, all trains that pass through will do mode switches? Thanks again! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 16:56:20 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 16:46:44 2016. Charlie tickets can be bought at any T station.The Silver Line buses to the airport will switch from overhead to diesel once exiting the tunnel. Similarly the blue line switches from third rail to overhead but does so while stopped at the Airport station, so you'd want to go past. I like the blue line out to Wonderland, a lot of beach near the last 3 stops. MBTA Rail is slightly interesting, in that it still uses manual doors and the "German cars" (built by MBBGh) are unlike anything else in the Northeast... unfortunately they are usually only open during rush hour. If nothing else take a peek at the trains at South & North stations, no need to take a ride. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Feb 9 17:48:07 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 10:47:06 2016. I happen to be fond of the Blue Line, but I like the rolling stock, and it's catenary which is always the right choice. :-)OTOH, the Red Line to Braintree and the Orange to Oak Grove felt painfully slow and boring. Mind you, I've been spoiled by WMATA, BART, MARTA, and various Euro-spec systems. FWIW, if you're one of the many people that wants the R110B to run, just ride MBTA's 1800s. The 1800s are basically BBD's mass produced version of the cars for Boston... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 17:50:09 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Feb 9 17:48:07 2016. Really, I've always found the Red Line to feel fast between JFK-UMASS and Braintree.The Orange Line to Forest Hills didn't feel very fast, but that may have been the Amtrak and Highway right alongside dwarfing its speed... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Feb 9 17:53:12 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Feb 9 17:50:09 2016. Really, I've always found the Red Line to feel fast between JFK-UMASS and Braintree.In contrast, that reaffirmed why I never liked the idea of NYCTA expansion. The acceleration was crap and we capped out at 40 mph. In contrast, an equivalent stretch on WMATA wouldn't have been so painfully slow... |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 18:45:23 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 16:46:44 2016. By the way for light rail I find my favorite is exclusive lane on a shared roadway. Exclusive ROW makes it seem like a small railroad and same lane as cars makes it seem like a bus. And of course when it is underground it is like a subway. But when it is in a private median on a regular roadway (as seems to be the case with the E on Huntington for a majority of the way) that's my favorite (though it's all good). |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 19:02:19 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 15:21:43 2016. Anybody who complains about rusting R42's n NYC ought to go to Boston to see those horrid Orange Line cars. And they have a few more years to go before being replaced. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 20:54:53 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Feb 9 19:02:19 2016. Agreed. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Tue Feb 9 20:58:19 2016, in response to Re: Green Line MBTA Question, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 9 16:46:44 2016. Yup, as has been mentioned, you can for sure buy the pass at any station.I would definitely get a ride on the tracklesses in Boston, since you won't see those down here. The dual mode Silver Line buses (SL1 to the airport) are also fascinating. The major "busways" in Boston are the Silver Line between South Station and Silver Line Way (massively overbuilt station at Courthouse -- worth a trip just to see how ridiculous it is!) and the Harvard Square inside busway. This is a big treat -- it is actually quite large, consists of upper and lower levels, has an interesting effect on traffic in the Square. Nothing totally unique from SEPTA/LIRR/MARC except that it's all diesel and is a pretty run-down system except for the terminals and the newer lines. |
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