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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 23:28:56 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 30 19:01:36 2015.

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I certainly did ask. I said I don't know what CO stands for. Excuse me for not phrasing it in the form of a question, Alex. Your response rather than being polite was: "You are completely clueless. and Terrapin jumped in with his usual agreement.

I am not going to bother to look up what we were discussing.

My fixation on what is the example? You are talking in riddles.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 1 06:51:12 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 23:28:56 2015.

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You were talking about the phones needing power. How could you forget that? You were wrong about it but refusing to admit it.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 07:55:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 23:28:56 2015.

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Brooklyn: Why on earth are you responding to these bozos? Their have nothing of value to say and by always answering their posts you are falling into their trap. They have no meaningful ideas to contribute to the conversation so they resort to provoking people. If you respond then you enable them and become part of the problem.

If you ignore them then we can go back to real conversations and not have to listen to this ongoing bar fight. You seem like an intelligent guy. Don't let them run you.

Larry, RedbirdR33



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:20:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 30 23:28:56 2015.

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You didn't ask until now?

What riddles? You are absolutely FIXATED on my argument about probability of age. Just drop it already. That is what soured the discussion in the first place.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:22:56 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 07:55:32 2015.

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When have I ever been anything other than respectful to you? You haven't read the whole discussion, so you haven't seen how arguing with BrooklynBus is unbearably frustrating, and you decide to attack for no reason.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:32:27 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:22:56 2015.

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Great post, Mr. Spider dash Pig. I also have been nothing but respectful (AFAIK) to Mr. Larry comma RedbirdR33, but recently he decided to get an attitude. I have no idea what his problem is and he apparently isn't man enough to just come out with it. It's shocking and sad.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:50:14 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 07:55:32 2015.

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Brooklyn: Why on earth are you responding to these bozos? Their have nothing of value to say and by always answering their posts you are falling into their trap. They have no meaningful ideas to contribute to the conversation so they resort to provoking people.
What's your problem all of the sudden?

If you respond then you enable them and become part of the problem.
Newsflash: he IS the problem.

If you ignore them then we can go back to real conversations and not have to listen to this ongoing bar fight.
No one forced you to enter this thread. So you can go back to whatever conversations you want, whenever you want. YOU joined this conversation of your own volition.

You seem like an intelligent guy.
Really? REALLY? Is that you professional opinion? Can you name five things that BrooklynBus has spoken intelligently about? Because SheepsheadBites seemingly disagrees and they fired him. The TA seemingly disagrees as he didn't last long as the "head of Bus Planning" after such a supposedly promising start to his career. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about dirt roads, as he has been amazed to see so many of them out west. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about the installation of bus stop signs, as he was confused about who installs them. I can go on and on. I've read many of his posts. Have you? Can YOU say anything intelligent and accurate about BrooklynBus's posting history here? If not, then why are you acting all high and mighty like you know what's going on here? Because you clearly don't. Here's an idea - why don't you try reading this thread from the VERY BEGINNING and see what really happened? I mean, don't you find it at least a little bit odd that no respected long-time members of this forum are rushing to BrooklynBus's defense? That should tell you something.

And before you get all indignant - you see that BrooklynBus's handle is a hyperlink? That's a link to his email address. If you wanted to give him some advice without starting a brouhaha here, you easily could have EMAILED HIM PRIVATELY. But instead you chose to publicly disparage other members here when they did absolutely nothing to you, nor to anyone else. Good job.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:12:42 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:50:14 2015.

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Technically, that is no longer true as Larry, RedbirdR33 is a respected long-time member of this forum and he is now rushing to BrooklynBus’s defense. So you should say no OTHER.

The explanation for that is that many people have decided to now avoid this thread because they’re afraid of the arguments. They want everything to be all peachy and everyone to sing kumbaya.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:20:37 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:12:42 2015.

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The explanation for that is that many people have decided to now avoid this thread because they’re afraid of the arguments.

I mostly stopped contributing to this thread because I found the arguments to be too picky and boring. And I'm a pretty picky type of poster myself.



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:21:06 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:20:23 2015.

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That first sentence wasn’t supposed to be a question, sorry.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:21:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:12:42 2015.

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Good catch. Except note that he's not defending what BrooklynBus has posted, he's just defending BrooklynBus from what he incorrectly perceives to be unwarranted attacks.

Also, he doesn't seem to have many friends here. If he did, I think their friendship would overrule their desire to avoid arguments.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:22:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:20:37 2015.

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They're not picky at all. BrooklynBus makes a significantly incorrect statement and then we correct him. Nothing picky about that.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:23:30 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:20:23 2015.

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That first sentence wasn’t supposed to be a question, sorry.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:30:30 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:22:32 2015.

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I was explaining my motivation for not participating in this thread, and noting that it was different from the motivation that Spider-Pig was attrbituing to posters for not participating.

My motivation is not in the least affected by your disagreeing with it.



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:30:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 09:20:37 2015.

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I agree with you (and disagree with Terrapin, so this post is impossible according to BrooklynBus). He continues to be fixated on the minor side argument of probability (of age), and still doesn’t understand it, so that has wasted a lot of time. Now he claims that he asked what a CO was before yesterday, and this thread is way too long to go through the trouble of proving or disproving that claim.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:33:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:30:32 2015.

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My mistake. I was considering pickiness on our part. BrooklynBus could certainly be being picky.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 09:33:25 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 30 14:27:20 2015.

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You don't know ESP is bullshit, you believe that it is. Nothing is supernatural in the true sense of the word, because whatever exists must be in accordance with the laws of nature, whatever they are. But those laws may not be quite what you (or I, or anyone) believe them to be.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:48:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 09:33:25 2015.

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I don’t agree. The laws are exactly what I believe them to be. The only thing that would change in my belief is that gaps in knowledge will be filled, so that the currently known laws of the universe will join additionally known laws and we will know more about the universe. ESP is not a part of it. If it were, there would have been conclusive experiments showing it to be real and repeatable.

Also, there are laws of the universe that are known to many humans but not to me because I am not an expert in the field. I know enough though to know ESP is bullshit.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:51:42 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 09:33:25 2015.

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I want to add that unlike ESP, claims that aliens exist are plausible. There could well be aliens that have visited Earth but are good at hiding from the public but not that good. The thing is that the claims of alien encounters and abductions are all bullshit.

That being said, I’m not going to believe in the unlikely scenario of aliens visiting Earth until there is some convincing evidence of it. There isn’t.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 10:39:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:48:05 2015.

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To rule out a priori the possibility that some of those yet-to-be-discovered laws will support currently unknown mechanisms by which psychic phenomena can function is the height of arrogance. So we will have to agree to disagree.

Since this discussion really has nothing to do with rail transit, it really should be dropped from this forum. To create some kind of relevance, I will mention that one dream I had that came true involved seeing the roadways serving what turned out to be BWI Airport rail station in Maryland.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 10:43:55 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 10:39:18 2015.

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If there were psychic phenomena, then one could say that there is some unknown mechanism by which they function. But every example of so-called psychic phenomena which has been scrutinized has been found to be bullshit, so why would there be some mechanism that supports something that doesn’t exist?

I don’t agree. The discussion has veered to where it has and that is not adequate enough reason to drop it. I think by now everyone knows we’re no longer discussing any blackout and anyone who stumbles upon this board will quickly be so informed.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:44:19 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 30 18:56:20 2015.

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Easy to speak like that after the fact. What if I told you the drug killed him? I bet your answer would have been, it shouldn't have been tried because it wasn't FDA approved.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:47:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:44:19 2015.

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I would not say that. Why do you assume I would say that? How do you test a drug without giving it to people?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:51:55 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:51:42 2015.

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I have heard about some pretty convincing testimonials about abductions that they target specific individuals and return to check on the same individuals once every ten years, much like the way we tag animals and follow them. So it isn't that far fetched.

Since relatively few individuals have come forth with these stories, it's easy to dismiss them as being nuts. Some may even fear coming forward for fear of losing their well respected jobs.

What if the same thing happens in the animal world? One tells another he is being tracked by humans and that animal communicates it to others and all dismiss the stories because the only believers are the few who ave actually seen the tags which are probably under like 1% of the animals and very rare.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:55:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:51:55 2015.

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Do these animals deny the existence of humans?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:55:58 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 10:43:55 2015.

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And you have read every example of so-called phenomena?

I notice you didn't question him on his predictive dream like you did with me. It is not rare to have predictive dreams and everyone has not been dismissed as pure coincidence or mis remembering the dream.as you claim. You just won't accept that there is no rational explanation for it according to what we know today.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:59:36 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:55:58 2015.

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I have read enough.

The same comments apply to both yours and his “predictive” dreams. Also, he didn’t claim that his dream was an example of an unexplained phenomenon as you claimed yours was.

I won’t accept it because I don’t accept things that aren’t true.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:03:19 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 11:51:55 2015.

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Also, given that the percentage of people being “nuts” is much higher than the percentage of people who claim repeated alien abductions, it is highly plausible that every single one of those people was hallucinating or delusional. It is certainly more plausible than their claims actually being true.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 12:17:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:47:04 2015.

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Mice.


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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:25:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 1 12:17:09 2015.

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So? BrooklynBus is claiming that I am opposed to giving any experimental drug to people. He would simply claim that any drug that has only been tested on mice is experimental and then make whatever assumptions he needs to advance his argument in favor of various pseudosciences.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 13:10:21 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:59:36 2015.

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He didn't have to claim his dream was an unexplained phenomena. The inference was still there. He said it was a prediction of things to come and you clearly stated it s impossible for dreams to predict anything.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 14:20:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 13:10:21 2015.

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No, it wasn't. He posted it in the spirit of the thread. If I posted about a dream that I had that "predicted" something, would you consider that to be an unexplained phenomenon?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 20:06:19 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 14:20:09 2015.

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Yes, it was meant as an example of a psychic dream. I dreamed of riding in a car over a roundabout series of ramps and connecting roadways. A month or two later, I was in Maryland for a cousin's bar mitzvah, and a ride in my uncle's car at the train station matched that dream very closely. It was an interesting experience, in that what I felt in the car started as a sense of déjà vu, but then I remembered where I had "experienced" it before.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:17:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 20:06:19 2015.

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I have had at least two dreams where the next day I was someplace I had never been before that matched the locale of the dream.

Even more eerie was a dream I had that I was going to lunch with two friends from work whom I usually ate with. In my dream I was carrying a briefcase under my right arm and a map case under my left arm. The next day I found myself with those two friends standing in the same place I was in my dream, when something felt familiar and I remembered my dream. I realized I was carrying the same briefcase under my right arm but had nothing user my left arm. I breathed a sigh of relief that I was not carrying a map case under my left arm like in the dream. Then suddenly I hear one of them say "take this" and low and behold he sticks a map case under my left arm. At that point, I made them stop and insisted on telling them the rest of the dream which was eerily similar to what actually happened. it was a very strange uncomfortable feeling.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:31:30 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:25:09 2015.

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No I would't say anything about mice.

I would just say it would be logical for you to oppose giving an experimental drug to people based on your previous statement that anything that has not already been proven by science is "bullshit." Experimental drugs have not yet been proven safe or effective through science which is why they are labeled experimental and usually used only as a last resort which is what happened in my friend's case. He was very lucky. (One colud even make an argument that God had a hand in it and wanted to live. But as an atheist, I will not try to make that argument with you.)

So it stands to reason that you would be against using an experimental drug not proven by science since you believe it would be "bullshit". If you really do beleve it should have been tried, you are not being consistent with your previous statement or your previous logic.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:33:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 11:55:52 2015.

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What does that question have to do with anything?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:46:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:03:19 2015.

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That statement is totally ridiculous. The fact that people with certain mental health issues (being nuts) is greater than the population who claim to have been abducted isn't relevent to anything.

My analogy between aliens tracking certain specific individuals and animals being tracked by humans is a very good analogy. That is not to say that all claims of abduction are legitimate. I am sure that there are some who believe they were abducted and are certifiably nuts. There is also the possibility that the process of being abducted made them nuts.

From the stories I have heard, the process is not a pleasant one and they never would have given consent if they were asked. It is not like being in the company of friendly ET aliens and actually quite scary. As far as evidence, I read of these people going to doctors who have removed implants (to preevnt future abductions) and science could not explain what these implants were. Either the substance was unknown to man or no one could assess what the implant was.

Would you actually expect these cases to be widely reported in mainstream news? No one wants to cause a panic or fear. The terrorists are enough right now for the public to deal with.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 21:59:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 20:06:19 2015.

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Then my responses to BrooklynBus do apply.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:00:50 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:31:30 2015.

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No, it doesn't. The difference is that experimental drugs are science. ESP and psychic powers are pseudoscience. They have been conclusively debunked.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:01:48 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:33:04 2015.

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Humans exist, aliens don't. That's why your analogy fails.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:07:29 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:46:34 2015.

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1. Yes it is. It shows the claims to likely be spurious in the absence of other evidence. Since you haven't cited any actual cases, I don't know who these supposed people actually are and I just assume that they must be crazy for believing in something so preposterous.

2. You say it is. It's not. Like I said in my other post, humans actually exist. You're really digging the hole deeper now. Do you really believe that you will be respected by people if you admit to believing in alien abductions? That we will tend to believe that a crackpot like you was actually the director of bus planning and/or is still in a healthy mental state?

3. OMG LOL!

4. LOLOLOL!

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BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:08:39 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:46:34 2015.

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I really cannot emphasize how insane this post makes you look.

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by R30A on Tue Dec 1 22:09:51 2015, in response to BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:08:39 2015.

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His transit views are even further from reality!

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:15:37 2015, in response to Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by R30A on Tue Dec 1 22:09:51 2015.

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The problem is that transit views are sufficiently esoteric that people might believe some "crazy ideas" in that field. His post about aliens can be used as an all purpose way of discrediting his claims like the Ology of Terror on OTChat.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 1 22:17:53 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:01:48 2015.

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Intelligent alien life almost certainly exists somewhere in our unfathomably vast universe. To think that our planet, out of the untold numbers of others that may support life, is the only one inhabited by sentient beings, is silly, because we cannot know this for a fact at our current stage of development.

That said, however, we are unlikely to have been visited by such intelligent creatures, or, in fact, to meet any in our lifetimes, simply because of the astronomical distances between us and any planet harboring an alien civilization. Time and distance aee what makes alien abductions or visitation implausible, not merely declaring such entities don't exist.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:24:10 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 1 22:17:53 2015.

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Very good post, but I was talking specifically about aliens visiting Earth. I thought that was clear.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Dec 1 22:59:31 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:24:10 2015.

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I did discuss the implausibility of aliens visiting Earth in my previous post.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 00:24:22 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:24:10 2015.

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It was clear.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 00:25:41 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:07:29 2015.

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IAWTP!!!! LOL!!!!!!

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 00:26:11 2015, in response to Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:15:37 2015.

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Yep

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